The concluding installment of a lengthy and fascinating interview with a longtime Wall Street insider tells of a far-reaching globalization plan dependent upon four more years of a Barack Obama presidency – and the collapse of America as we know it…
Part One of this interview HERE
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…UM: I understand what you’re saying about debt…about the deficit and the dangers to the country. I don’t understand the link necessarily to that topic and your insistence against my coverage of the Ron Paul campaign. Why the emphasis on Ron Paul? If you don’t think he actually has a chance to win – why the bloody focus on him that is coming from you?
WSI: I already stated that my focus was not on Ron Paul – but rather my focus in on the issues he has and continues to raise. Your attempts to diminish him – and that is exactly what you have been doing. Please don’t attempt to deny that now – that is what you have been doing. By diminishing Mr. Paul – you run the risk of diminishing the crucial issue that is the essence of his campaign. And I don’t believe you fully appreciate the warning I am attempting to convey to you here – the risk of a total and all-consuming collapse of the world economy.
UM: No…I do. The Fed is printing phony money, right? The value of the dollar is diminished to the point where it is no longer worth anything. From there the system falls apart. Yeah – I get it.
WSI: With all due respect – sincerely…no you do not “get it” if that is in fact the limits of your understanding.
UM: How about we go back to Ron Paul, ok? Why are you so concerned about my coverage of him? Why would someone like you give…give any…why would you even care?
WSI: Because I am certain that in your attempts to diminish Mr. Paul you are diminishing the issues he has raised – issues that must be an essential component of the national discussion if we are to avert what will soon be unavoidable and complete economic disaster. You are in essence, doing the bidding of the Obama White House.
UM: You need to explain that one - and right quick.
WSI: You are chasing windmills with all of this Ron Paul - George Soros nonsense. You are making Ron Paul a joke, you are making all of the work you have done to this point – and it is reaching the eyes and ears of those in influence, of that I can assure you – but all of that is now being lost because you have chosen, or you were told…to pursue this ridiculous path of the last few weeks. If you wish to continue sharing time with me such as we are doing now…you must turn off of that path. I will not entertain such nonsense. Not for another minute. It must end – now.
UM: For you to make that kind of demand of me requires a hell of a lot more explanation than you are giving. Enough of the mystery here. The fact is, of all of us involved in this – you are the one who could most easily survive exposure. You can’t argue that. But I’ve more than met my obligation to you and protected your identity out of both honor and respect to you and others involved.
WSI: And I am appreciative of that honor and respect you have shown me. Nothing I have done or said should make you believe otherwise. If that appreciation did not exist – you would have been silenced some time ago.
UM: What?
WSI: Not – that was not intended as a threat. Apologies. What I meant to convey is that you would have found the risk to yourself – the discovery…it would have been made available to others. Your own position would have been likely terminated. You know that would be easy enough for someone such as myself to do. And so – I am…grateful for your willingness to put yourself at such risk. And I have been very careful in what has been disclosed to you for fear of placing you in too great of risk. I hope you understand that…and believe me when I say it.
UM: So you categorically deny that any link to George Soros and the Ron Paul campaign exists? That topic has no merit? No value for me to explore? The potential gaming of the primary campaign – you know the Democrats did that already, right? The McCain the campaign thing, right? Are you denying that took place too? Are you calling -name withheld- a liar?
WSI: Not at all. If they say that is what happened I have no reason to believe otherwise.
UM: So why be so dismissive of something similar happening with the Ron Paul thing?
WSI: Thing?
UM: The damn campaign – the Paul campaign!
WSI: You mean your obsession with George Soros and the Ron Paul campaign?
UM: Yeah – my obsession. Your term – not mine.
WSI: I don’t really care if it exists or not. I don’t believe it does. Please understand - George Soros is a cartoon for the most part. Granted, a well organized one, yes, he does have influence - but the sum total is that of a buffoon. And if he is doing a bit of work with the Ron Paul campaign…I don’t really care – and neither should you. I would be far more concerned with figures such as Leo Gerard and the undo influence they are directly wielding upon the government of the United States. You pursued that for a moment – why have you stopped?
UM: I haven’t stopped…I can’t focus entirely on that all the time.
WSI: You could and you should. The question that now must be answered – is if you will.
UM: Leo Gerard is not…I’ve haven’t seen any new activity from him lately. So I have to look at other stories, other—
WSI: (Interrupts) No new activity? Really? The labor board appointments? Do you have any idea how crucial that is? Do you have any inkling of the all out offensive the unions are planning to take after Barack Obama secures re-election in 2012? He will be a president no longer beholden to the responsibilities of an upcoming election. If you thought his first term has been a disaster for freedom and opportunity in America…my dear boy…open your eyes. Please.
UM: My eyes ARE open. Yes, I assumed there was a connection to Gerard and the labor union appointments. But there was no proof.
WSI: Perhaps you didn’t look hard enough. Perhaps you have been far too distracted with the Ron Paul nonsense.
UM: Once again I’m gonna ask you to explain to me why you are being so protective of Ron Paul? And so damn dismissive of the possibility that his campaign is being used by Soros, or the progressives, the Obama campaign – maybe all of them…that they are using his campaign to create chaos in the Republican primary? Why you don’t think that possibility is worthy of some investigation? Please – explain that to me. Without the mystery. Without the broad economic doom and gloom talk. Just come right out and say it.
WSI: (Smiles) I already told you in quite simple terms that I did not care if the Ron Paul campaign was being manipulated or not by some other person or entity. That possibility is not nearly so crucial as the underlining message that Mr. Paul is bringing to the national discourse – that of a Federal Reserve out of control and consolidating power not only within America, but around the globe. If you wish to see witness of the one-world globalization movement…irrefutable proof that such a thing does in fact exist – you look no further than the Federal Reserve. At this very moment, there are individuals working collectively toward the implementation of a world crisis scenario that will provide the platform for the unification of the Federal Reserve, the IMF, with a strong assist from other such entities as the UN…the climate change movement is involved…those are merely laundering organizations you know…window dressing. Deceptions…climate change, AIDS relief, world hunger relief, disaster relief…on and on and on. The Clintion Initiative…-name deleted- almost let that slip with you recently… each a small portion of the larger puzzle…all the pieces…I have watched over decades as these pieces have been moved into place. And before you wish to insult me – yes, I have put forth time and effort…often at great personal expense, to slow what appears to be an unstoppable force. This is the topic of which I have protected you from. This is the threat underway at this very moment. It has always been…and now it appears ready to reach its intended conclusion. Your Ron Paul – George Soros stories? Rubbish. All of it. Pure rubbish. And I will add this…Congressman Paul, for all of his many other political faults of which I am well aware…the naive – even dangerous, foreign relations views, his rather questionable outlook regarding Israel…all of that is secondary to me when compared against the truth he speaks regarding the Federal Reserve, the collapse of the dollar, and the absolute and horrific chaos that will be unleashed upon the country and the world if the United States does in fact fall into the abyss. It is that message that cannot be diminished! It is that message that MUST be an essential component to the 2012 campaign – whoever the Republican candidate is – they MUST challenge President Obama on that issue. Time and time again. That issue must be raised in this election, and if this country be so fortunate – the next election, and every election after until the doomsday scenario being played out by the likes of Ben Bernanke and others is resolved. By attacking Ron Paul, you attack this issue – the most crucial issue to this presidential campaign, and in doing so, you are unwittingly doing the bidding of Barack Obama and his legion of progressive supporters.
(Long silence)
UM: …And you accuse me of chasing windmills?
WSI: (Shakes head) Ah…you prove my point. You are not worthy of the truth. Now you would mock me?
UM: No – you just laid out a whole lot right there. A whole lot of what I don’t really know at this point. The globalization thing…sure…there is clearly a push by some to move in that direction. But am I understanding you correctly when you say it’s more than just a direction – that there are forces at work right now to enforce this…globalization – if that is the correct term…to force this globalization on us right now?
WSI: I admitted to you of not voting in any election up to this point. I will be voting in this one. That vote is not so much because I feel my one vote will actually make the difference…in the past I have certainly worked in favor of some presidential candidates over others…but I never voted. Until now.
UM: You never fully explained why beyond saying because the stakes were so high for this election. Is that it?
WSI: Certainly – yes. But…at my age…(pause)
…at my age, and if this election…if Barack Obama is re-elected…the country my parents fled to…when they escaped the Nazis who had invaded France…that America…(pause)…that…that…(pause)…forgive me. Apologies. The older I become…the more easily emotions overcome me…
…(sighs)
…Are you familiar with the concept of absolution? I assume you are – it is integral to the Catholic experience, yes?
UM: Yes.
WSI: Consider then my vote…absolution does not play such a part in the Jewish faith, at least, not in the way you are familiar with. But it is the term that best describes what my vote in this election represents to me. It is as much a spiritual act as it is a physical one…if that makes any sense to you. I have forsaken too long the privilege of my vote. My own arrogance…(pause)…my…I have been so damn self-important. This arrogance led me to forsake the gift of my parents…in…they came to America…this country accepted them…(pause) as it has always done. I was given the privilege of being an American. Millions of my people were denied that gift. That blessing. And in my own arrogance, I denied my parents sacrifice in coming to this country. You understand that too, don’t you?
UM: (pause)…Yes…yes I do.
WSI: And so for years I have lived a life of such amazing privilege and opportunity. I have met…you see these photos? They too are symbols of my arrogance. My shameful lack of humility. What have I become? Ah…but that is not the right question for me is it? The question I now continue to ask myself is what am I to be? Whatever time is left to me…what am I to be?
And so in this election…I will for the first time in my life, vote. And that vote will be a form of absolution for my too long denial of full appreciation for my parents’ sacrifice. And it will also be the representation of all the work I am now engaged in to ensure President Obama serves but one term as president – and to then push as hard as I possibly can for the new president to finally at long last initiate the kind of economic reforms in this country necessary to save what little is left of America. I pray it is not too late you know. Those are not mere words. Every day I pray for this country. Every day I pray for the possibility that the current president will be given the wisdom to do what is right, and not be so easily manipulated to do what is so clearly wrong.
Do you pray?
UM: Sometimes.
WSI: I suggest you do so more regularly. A respectful suggestion.
UM: Sure – I’ll keep that in mind.
WSI: Have you ever made the walk from 19th in D.C. to the White House?
UM: 19th? To the White House?
WSI: That’s right.
… It’s a remarkably short walk – even for someone of my age. Can I give you a bit of homework if you don’t mind?
UM: Homework?
WSI: Yes – homework. The look you gave when I was laying out the IMF…globalization…all of that which admittedly, to an outsider, certainly should sound like the rantings of a conspiracy fanatic. I get that. Believe me, I do. You say I could survive exposure far easier than yourself or -name deleated- . Not so. What I just discussed with you…people in my line of work…we don’t openly speak of such things. Ever. Those who do…there is very particular risk involved. Now if someone outside looking in wishes to make those kinds of connections – feel free. But if you are “in the club” shall we say…it would be viewed in very poor taste to do so.
UM: But you told me before…might have been the first time we spoke…you said Wall Street wasn’t some kind of…I can’t recall your exact words…it wasn’t a single entrance club.
WSI: Did I?
UM: Yes – something like that.
WSI: Well, viewed in its entirety – that is correct. I believe I may have been expressing disagreement that Wall Street as a single entity. It is actually far more vast and diverse than that. But…at a certain level…yes, there is far more conformity than we would like to admit.
UM: At your level?
WSI: (pause)…Yes. I would admit to that.
UM: Would you say it’s conformity…or collusion?
WSI: Ah…that is…that is a rather clever question.
UM: How about a less than clever answer…
WSI: No comment.
UM: That’s not clever – that’s cowardly.
WSI: Being called a coward might very well be the nicest thing anyone calls me today! (laughs)
…Now back to that homework assignment.
UM: Sure – what are you up to?
WSI: Nothing dubious here – I simply want you to see something with your own eyes. You can’t see it from a computer, or a map. You need to be there in person. You need to walk it. I’ve made the walk many times over the years. I first noticed it…a short time after the inauguration. The Clinton one…the first one. I made the walk…I was already slower by then…and took the time to look around. It was a bit of an epiphany for me, and I believe it may be for you as well. But you have to see it in person. There is no substitute for that.
UM: I have to go to D.C.?
WSI: Yes – otherwise it simply won’t take.
UM: Take?
WSI: The impact. You won’t get the impact. It would be like the difference between you talking about growing up in Northern Ireland during the Troubles and someone actually experiencing it. Understand?
UM: No…but I will…I’ll consider it. There’s a matter of scheduling, the cost…I’m not sure—
WSI: (interrupts)—forget the cost. My treat. You must make that walk.
UM: From 19th to the White House?
WSI: Yes. 19th and G. 19th and G. You have no idea how many times that phrase has cluttered my mind these many years…since that inauguration…goodness…20 years ago? And if you have the time and patience, please note what bookends the other side of the White House as well.
UM: And if I can’t make the trip?
WSI: Then…our discussions will end here. I believe you cannot fully appreciate the implications of the subject matter without getting what is in my mind, the fully formed visual of one hand serving the other – for that is what is happening at this point. The servant is now the master…and it has likely been that way for far longer than my own realization.
UM: There you go again.
WSI: Pardon?
UM: You talk in…all of the secretive…I apologize for the term – but “crap”.
WSI: I appreciate your consideration and tone – much improved than earlier. And as I said – I understand your…unwillingness to fully consider what I am trying to convey. To the uninitiated, it does present itself in a less than believable…yes – it sounds like…”crap” as you so willingly put it.
But make that walk. 19th and G.
…then we’ll speak further. And in the meantime, please understand – I am doing all I can to defeat President Obama. More than either yourself or -name deleted- can fully appreciate or I can disclose at this point. I wish for you to know that though – and hopefully believe my telling you it is so. Your opinion…oddly enough…has come to mean something to me.
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Part One of this interview HERE
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Note: It is my intent to take the “19th and G” walk soon. Hoping to coordinate the trip with another face-to-face with WHI who has been increasingly unwilling to communicate of late… -UM
Appears to be World Bank Headquarters, along with IMF Bldg.
It sure is!
I’m with Wall Street on Paul. http://whenfallsthecoliseum.com/2012/01/02/the-paul-paradox/
Keep in mind, through all this, that the Federal Reserve is a creature of Congress. If Congress desires, they can buy up all the stock in the Fed. from the member commercial banks and put the Fed out of business. They created it; they can put it out of business. Of course, they won’t have anyone else to blame in such event.
Change is a disequilibrium process and we are about to see some really strong and organized push for change.
But organization in reality is usually a bunch of bumblers.
I don’t think so. Congress is in the same pocket Obama is in, and they are not going to raise a finger to put the Fed out of business. Republicans and Democrats alike, they’re bought and paid for by the same globalists WSI talks about, they are mere puppets of the same master. There are few exceptions. We need a President who is committed to ending the Fed. Ron Paul is the only one who will work for this. They are scared to death of Ron Paul.
Remarks by Governor Ben S. Bernanke
This makes for a great read and insight to were we are and the next steps.
Note the date and his speech references.
Before the National Economists Club, Washington, D.C.
November 21, 2002
Deflation: Making Sure “It” Doesn’t Happen Here
http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2002/20021121/default.htm
WSI seems to think that electing any of the Republican candidates would extinguish the globalist consolidation move viz-a-viz the Federal Reserve, IMF, etc. I disagree. Anyone but Ron Paul will continue to move the globalist agenda — Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, Huntsman — any of them, they are all globalist puppets. Only Ron Paul has the integrity to turn things around — this is why he is running — he knows what’s in store for us and it is horrific. Stop maligning Ron Paul, and listen to what he has to say. He knows what’s going down, and he is the ONLY one who wants to stop it. He is the only one you can count on. And, that is why the mainstream-bought-and-paid-for media is doing everything possible to try to stop him. Wake up. Time is short.
“The servant is now the master…and it has likely been that way for far longer than my own realization.” The servant used to be the government and the master ‘We The People’, but now the roles are reversed.
I worry for WSI because I wonder if he is ill and his time is short. I pray not. Please listen to him UM because he trusts you. We are all counting on you.
WSI apparently is working hard to defeat Obama and crew knowing full well that he can have no effect, if what else he says is correct. His stance, now, and his alleged vote in November will be nothing more than self-serving atonement for him.
Sort of like the “Get Out Of Jail Free Card” Protestants have: There, even Hitler could recant at the last and still receive grace and redemption and a trip to heaven.
Definitely starts at the WB, then goes past the old White House. Have to wait till next time to hear the rest I guess.
The other bookend is the Treasury Building! In fact, the White House lies more-or-less on a straight line connecting the World Bank and the Treasury….
I think I understand what WSI is getting at and you should go back to Gerard and the union problem. There is so much more here than many see. The few news networks that carried coverage of the “recess” appointments made last week really only talked about one appointment, yet there were four. Some of this revolves around the right to work issue with states, yet most only see the problem of the higher cost of union work as being the problem. I see it as a degradation of the human spirit. If we all work for what is predesignated as wages we deserve for x number of years, our own initiative to improve is destroyed. The moves being made by the fed and others would kill the very spirit that made this country a shining beacon on the world stage.
The message here is that the discussion must be continued on the dire financial situation this country is in and digging deeper. WSI wants that word to continue to be heard and not silenced. I do not believe that he is saying that Ron Paul is the only answer, what he is saying is that if Mr. Paul’s other positions are allowed to distract and make a buffoon of the financial problems we face then the problems might not be viewed as serious.This is similar to what the Democrats have tried to do to the message of the TEA party, misdirection and maligning to keep the populace from hearing the warning about what is happening. As a nation we must remain independent and strong.
I agree NCGramma. Good post.
I was prepping a lengthy comment but NCgramma has summed it up well. So I’ll mention something a bit personal.
I’ve had the odd bit of luck (bad or good, i don’t know) of having a significant number of childhood friends attain reasonably high ranking positions in three of the alphabet agencies in this country and have been privy to a lot of information (much of which I wish I didn’t know) over the years.
There’s not a thing that WSI says here that contradicts any of the information I’ve received from my friends over the course of three decades.
Paul won’t win the election. I say that pragmatically, not as a detractor. But he is the ONLY candidate that has been raising the concerns that WSI mentioned and in my opinion, these concerns trump every other national and international issue. Whether or not one disagrees with Paul’s other opinions, the man cannot be mocked or marginalized. His consistent message about the Federal Reserve and globalization MUST be heard.
Excellent post, NCGramma
This is why I have pushed a Gingrich Presidency with Ron Paul in Bernanke’s place. Wouldn’t that rattle some cages – with John Bolton back at the UN.
I could see Romney in Treasury – under tight watch – and Huntsman in Commerce – Huntsman is far too liberal in a lot of things, but he won’t start a trade war. I’d like to see Santorum as VP with a VERY active role in the Senate and in other areas of government. This is not about politics: this is about sweeping out the Geithners and the Bernankes and the unionistas. To the point of a coup – all Constitutional.
WSI is right. Ron Paul is being turned into a total joke – thought the Virginia Governor may have helped him win Virginia by letting only Paul and Miss Romney on the ticket. Romney would – as President – be completely unable to see the danger to our nation. He doesn’t have the vision – he’s a global warming/population control guy who can do limited things very well. He’s shallow – he’s a politician’s politician, able to grasp the words neccessary to win, but not to understand the meaning behind them.
Ron Paul’s message on certain issues is like Ross Perot’s – Ross helped define the budget issue, if you don’t remember. He was whacky, too, but he kept the issue up for Newt to utilize. He and Newt ought to be on the same team on some issues. We all should be.
With all due respect, Ulsterman, WSI is more attuned than WHI – who is more into political intrigue. This economic stuff is bad news – bad on a scale that none of us can fully comprehend – far worse than the era leading up to the Great Depression.
Ross gave us Clinton.
Will Paul give us Obama?
Paul is not any different than the Commies EXCEPT in the fed res dept.
DADT repeal, legalizing prostitution, drugs, state sponsored abortion.
All of these things are the issue, even more than being broke.
In the 1930′s we went through a GREAT depression, but we made it through because we had MORALS.
Nobody seems to care about this, inc Paul.
MJ, I’ll do my best to be respectful here. If you want to disagree with Ron Paul’s stances on issues, more power to you. But to compare them to Communism is an exercise in ignorance.
Communism is a socialist society where the means of production are owned by the government. The end result is an extremely powerful and far-reaching centralized government.
Paul argues for the opposite, where the federal government’s reach is extremely short and people are allowed to live their lives. He has never advocated drugs or prostitution and he is Pro Life, not pro-choice. He advocates that people’s bodies belong to themselves and that it’s not the government’s right to control what one does with their body if they’re not hurting someone else. He has time and time again, brought up the common sense argument: “If Heroin becomes legal, are you going to start using it?” Of course not.
If you read even a short biography of Ron Paul, the man has lived an incredibly moral life. Married, children, a doctor, fought for his country. He doesn’t believe that our government has the right to tell us how to live our lives.
This makes me believe the conspiracy about JFK getting assassinated because he wanted to end the Federal Reserve. Hmmm… If you haven’t read The Creature from Jekkyl Island, you will realize how corrupt the whole Federal Reserve system has been from the start. I am not a Paul supporter because I do not think he would be a good commander-in-chief. But I would love to see him as Treasury Secretary!
I agree and would like to see him head the Fed. Or perhaps Paul Ryan.
If Romney would announce his choice of Paul for the Fed he’d begin to fly, to soar to the Presidency.
Yes! I agree and think if he announced other position choices, he could bring in so many under one umbrella. For the most part, each candidate has made some excellent points and could perhaps have a place in the new cabinet.
Ok, I feel nearly certain I know what WSI is referring to. Hetuck got the boookend (The US Treasury) in a comment above. But the other sign – and it is literally a sign – is located at the corner of 18th Street NW and E Street NW is for this entity:
AFL–CIO Employees Federal Credit Union
So, what WSI seems to be saying is the US Government – through the Treasury – is basically delivering the money of America into the coffers of the AFL-CIO (and related unions).
Needless to say, this helps to crystallize what WSI is trying to convey. This isn’t just a credit union. It’s a FEDERAL credit union.
Hope this helps.
The United Unions Building located at 1750 New York Avenue, NW.
That is the larger structure, beyond simply the AFL–CIO Employees Federal Credit Union, which is located in that building.
United Unions.
Also, another possible candidate for the “bookend” building is the Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center. In fact, given WSI’s comments on globalization, this could be a better candidate for the bookend than even the Treasury.
Exactly.
So, amending what I said earlier with what seems a more complete explanation of what WSI is trying to say:
Here you have – bookending the symbol of American power (The White House), no less – a United Unions building (United, as in united beyond US borders; Leo Gerard anyone?) combined with an International Trade Center building that is used for housing globalization projects/entities (such as the United States Agency for International Development).
Thus, you have two groups of people housed in these buildings that want to reduce American economic power and see the USA diminished. And where are they located?
Right in the heart of Washington, DC. Right beside the symbol of American power that is represented by the White House.
Now I understand why WSI wanted UM to see this for himself. It makes the danger now facing America much clearer. They’re not even trying to hide themselves any longer, it would seem.
Not only are we facing a group of enemies of America, so to speak, the enemy is right in our own backyard. The enemy is boxing us in on both sides, and we are allowing it. Right under our own nose, in broad daylight.
There are old men who have a conscience.
WSI, from what I have read, is one of those men.
WSI expressed: “It [voting] is as much a spiritual act as it is a physical one [act]…”
In other words, to vote will give Wall Street Insider a sense of purpose and spiritual well being.
Making a stand.
The sense that you know something is wrong, immoral, and you are going to make a stand to stop it.
WSI wrote: “But if you are ‘in the club’ shall we say…it would be viewed in very poor taste to do so.”
This is a vast understatement.
For a wall street insider to acknowledge there is a ‘force’ driving for world governance, is like a member of a club giving away the secret hand shake.
But the consequences are far greater.
I pray that there are more men like WSI.
Many of them are old… and, with mortality staring them in the face, are wondering, that with a nation that has given them so much… opportunity, freedom, what they can give back to the nation.
This great land of opportunity and freedom — that’s where America’s exceptionalism springs forth… not from force of arms or the barrel of a gun.
Oh, yes, those things are necessay, but our exceptualism springs forth from a recognition of Man’s true gifts. A land where an individual’s free will can be a source for good, for his own aspirations, his happiness, but also for the benefit of his fellow men.
WSI has knowledge… a thousand conversations, s life a being on the inside… of the belly of the beast… where people express attitudes, agendas:
WSI wrote: “…that of a Federal Reserve out of control and consolidating power not only within America, but around the globe. If you wish to see witness of the one-world globalization movement…irrefutable proof that such a thing does in fact exist – you look no further than the Federal Reserve. At this very moment, there are individuals working collectively toward the implementation of a world crisis scenario that will provide the platform for the unification of the Federal Reserve, the IMF, with a strong assist from other such entities as the UN…”
This is not in America’s national interest.
America’s sovereignty is at stake… literally, our independance as a nation-state.
Ulsterman, let the old man have atonement, satisfaction or reparation for a wrong or injury; amends.
And pray to God, other men step forward.
And, if I may say so, understand that America’s foreign policy is intertwined with our domestic policies. We are overstretched as a nation, both foreign and domestic.
The two are connected.
Ron Paul knows about the Fed… and how America’s foreign policy and America’s solvency go hand in hand.
From the Joint Chiefs of Staff website:
National Debt Poses Security Threat, Mullen Says
“The single biggest threat to national security is the national debt, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said yesterday, underscoring the importance of good fiscal stewardship and a need to stimulate economic growth.”
“…[America's defense] budget has doubled over the last 10 years.”
http://www.jcs.mil/newsarticle.aspx?ID=360
UM,
“UM: Leo Gerard is not…I’ve haven’t seen any new activity from him lately. So I have to look at other stories, other—”
There seems to be a key correlation to several Big Enterprises (Big Business Industries to Big Union Groups), and many of the international unions. These seem to link directly into globalization.
“UM: No…I do. The Fed is printing phony money, right? The value of the dollar is diminished to the point where it is no longer worth anything. From there the system falls apart. Yeah – I get it.
WSI: With all due respect – sincerely…no you do not “get it” if that is in fact the limits of your understanding.”
Global Keynesianism and Developmentalism. Both advocates interventionism and ever increasing expansion, consolidation, and centralization. Keynes advocated deficit spending to borrow yourself to prosperity, but the Federal Reserve has been using its presses for physical/virtual since their respective conceptions. It enables currency debasement to occur much more rapidly and quietly because gold and silver isn’t really used as actual coinage anymore, and fiat paper can be printed and only limited to the printing press. Virtually, it is simply infinite in either direction, which adds further danger due to some people actually like the idea of a cashless society based on virtual credit. Yes, it would collapse the system, but it’s not that simple.
“which I am well aware…the naive – even dangerous, foreign relations views”
Bare in mind, Keynesian Economists point to how the US strengthened particularly after World War II leading Keynesian economists like Paul Krugman to cleverly advocate a major war on par to world war in a manner that grants him plausible deniability, yet Keynesian Economists use wartime economies to push through numerous government spending neglecting that the US went through both world wars without physical conflict within the US borders, and the wars post Civil War was largely fought in Europe and elsewhere rather than North America of USA on top of US populace due to rations largely bought war bonds enabling the debt to be driven down on top of revenues picked up by tariffs and various war time goods. In simple terms, Keynes views the economic system in a mechanical fashion that monetary or fiscal stimulus can simply jump start, but this doesn’t take into consideration of people’s interests simply interventionism and prompting to try sustaining about 70% to GDP consumption largely derived by credit, which largely creates a fiscal revenue gap needing to be filled more and more through foreign borrowing via Treasury Bonds and/or Monetize the debt through the Federal Reserve (which is largely occurring). Hayek’s premise is that the economy is based on us, organic/organisms. The amount of mal-investment incurred by our present centralized system incurs largely non-payable debt, which is largely a mal-investment that should have crashed. Several of these institutions are key in globalization if they are allowed to fail; globalization is dead in the water. War makes a hefty distraction, and 2014 treaties expire that render enforcing sanctions on Iran largely incapable of being enforced on top of containment on China in particular collapses. If the US aims to attack Iran, it must do so prior to 2014; otherwise, it’s also dead in the water as encirclement collapses.
“whoever the Republican candidate is – they MUST challenge President Obama on that issue.”
Romney, Perry, Santorum, and Huntsman won’t. They actually favor the Federal Reserve system.
“UM: From 19th to the White House?
WSI: Yes. 19th and G.”
The IMF and World Bank both do have buildings on that intersection. You might want to consider taking more than one route. There are other very interesting buildings along the patch from 19th and G to the White House; it simply depends on the route from there.
werbaz neutronName January 9, 2012 at 12:14 am .
“Keep in mind, through all this, that the Federal Reserve is a creature of Congress.”
Not really.
werbaz neutronName January 9, 2012 at 12:14 am
“They created it; they can put it out of business.”
Only if the act doesn’t get renewed, or legislation comes forth to abolish the Federal Reserve Act.
Mary January 9, 2012 at 12:47 am .
“I don’t think so. Congress is in the same pocket Obama is in, and they are not going to raise a finger to put the Fed out of business. Republicans and Democrats alike, they’re bought and paid for by the same globalists WSI talks about, they are mere puppets of the same master.”
Pretty much. What many fail to understand, politician being puppets/corrupt; this does not mean they’re unwillful participants.
Mary January 9, 2012 at 12:35 am .
“WSI seems to think that electing any of the Republican candidates would extinguish the globalist consolidation move viz-a-viz the Federal Reserve, IMF, etc. I disagree. Anyone but Ron Paul will continue to move the globalist agenda — Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, Huntsman — any of them, they are all globalist puppets.”
So does the WHI for that matter. Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Huntsman will continue globalization and preserving the key institutions enabling the program, which is far more dangerous than Ron Paul’s foriegn policy assessment. Fact of the matter is based on debt to GDP and deficit to GDP ratios cupped with savings as well as economic infrastructure; the present course leads to economic implosion and major war. Containing Russia and China like back in the Cold War requires the nations involved to possess a strong economy and economic infrastructure. Look around you, do anyone truly believes that the US/NATO possesses such an underlining requirement? Worst yet, who truly believes that Russo-Sino and its allies possesses that requirement? The truth is none do. The financial crisis of 2008 inevitably should have shown that we live in a multipolar world aka world consisting of multiple more or less evenly matched nations. The US simply lacks the recourse to attack Iran and risk forcing Russia and China into action due to Cold War style containment strategies, and there is only one country remotely doing fairly well enough not to need a distraction from economic digression aka Iceland who told the IMF and insolvant banks to take a hike during the crisis. Unless the economy improves and nations extend Treaties enabling the US to operate from them, which enables sanctions on Iran to be enforced, the US will be forced to attack Iran prior to 2014.
Namecookiegramma January 9, 2012 at 1:30 am
“The few news networks that carried coverage of the “recess” appointments made last week really only talked about one appointment, yet there were four. Some of this revolves around the right to work issue with states, yet most only see the problem of the higher cost of union work as being the problem.”
The right to work grants the government the precedent needed to expand the public-private patnership. It basically grants the government the authority to assign a job and place a person in any given station, which historically is essentially a caste system (meaning if you’re in a have not job, you will be have not until the day you die; provided, the government doesn’t reassign you).
The cost depends on who is doing the hiring. If it’s the government, the government either needs more taxes for revenues or borrowing/monetizing the debt. Back during the original debt cieling debate in the Obama Administration pensions and other programs were raided to make room under the debt cieling.
“The moves being made by the fed and others would kill the very spirit that made this country a shining beacon on the world stage.”
It would effectively conclude the dedevelopment of the US…
InTheKnow January 9, 2012 at 4:57 am .
“Ok, I feel nearly certain I know what WSI is referring to. Hetuck got the boookend (The US Treasury) in a comment above. But the other sign – and it is literally a sign – is located at the corner of 18th Street NW and E Street NW is for this entity:
AFL–CIO Employees Federal Credit Union”
I missed it, but will check into it. Nice Catch.
(such as the United States Agency for International Development) that’s one of the names I couldn’t think of off hand. The other contends with sustainable development).
“Not only are we facing a group of enemies of America, so to speak, the enemy is right in our own backyard. The enemy is boxing us in on both sides, and we are allowing it. Right under our own nose, in broad daylight.
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When you note the correlations from various Big Businesses and big unions through globalization, it certainly warrants a closer look in reading “The Quiet Coup” by Simon Johnson.
Thomas L. Friedman is a major globalization proponent; he did a summary of “The World is Flat” called “It’s a Flat World, after All”. I’d also suggest reading “The Ideology of Development” by William Easterly, which contends with Developmentalism.
Thanks Seen, I will definitely check into those books. I have a lot to learn.
I was wrong about the AFL-CIO Employees Federal Credit Union being the key entity at that address. It’s the United Unions building itself that WSI is talking about, I think. Of which the AFL-CIO Employees Federal Credit Union is located in (it’s within the United Unions building).
The United Unions building and the Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center. I think these are the buildings WSI speaks of.
I didn’t explain it so well above. But now it’s making more sense. Drain the USA’s economic might. And do so using these various hoaxes (global warming, …) and laundering agencies.
I always thought all of these concepts were baseless conspiracy theories. Sadly, seems I was wrong.
No problem.
“I always thought all of these concepts were baseless conspiracy theories. Sadly, seems I was wrong.
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“Desperate Deceptions” by Thomas E. Mahl and Roy Godson should come in handy here.
Isn’t it interesting how earth sciences and human sciences view theory, and how conspiracy and myth are viewed as fiction while few people understand symbolism?
I completely understand where you’re coming from, yet the correlation and intertwinment really can’t be ignored either…
Thanks very much for your guidance in books to read. I’ve been looking for just that kind of thing.
What you are saying about myth and symbolism fascinates me. This is how propaganda is woven, I think, using the mass media and entertainment complex. And it seems this administration does more of this than any other I can think of.
Do you have any suggestions on books to read regarding myth and symbolism? Books that might help weave together some of the psychological concepts involved (including mass psychology) with modern media techniques? I would definitely appreciate that. Or even just some guidance on the psychological basis for myth, symbolism and such. I’m thinking Jung and archetypes, etc.
You seem like a very wise person. I know myself and others like me appreciate the help of yourself and others like yourself.
I think many of us sense we are at a tipping point. The only way we are going to come out of this successfully, I think, is with a team effort. Initiated has to help uninitiated, and so on and so forth.
Thanks for your help. We’re fighting a powerful force, and it’s going to take all hands on deck to win.
While not precisely what you asked for, I’d suggest reading The Master Game” by Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval. It’s a huge tome, but it puts some serious research into just how long TPTB have been at this. It’s not conspiracy at all.
Thanks, Grail Guardian. I have heard and researched about that book and it does seem to be very useful and appropriate for this topic. Thanks for the suggestion.
It’s so wild — all of these topics seemed like unbelievable conspiracy theory, but the more WSI and WHI reveal, the more believable these concepts seem.
Grail Guardian January 10, 2012 at 6:43 pm .
“While not precisely what you asked for, I’d suggest reading The Master Game” by Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval. It’s a huge tome, but it puts some serious research into just how long TPTB have been at this. It’s not conspiracy at all.
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I haven’t read that one either. I’ll see if I can find a pdf and a hardcopy. Thank for the suggestion.
InTheKnow January 10, 2012 at 7:27 pm .
“Sorry, this comment was placed in the wrong spot. Please ignore it here.
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No problem, I apologize for the double post.
One other quick question.
Do you think it is useful for the lay person like myself to read texts such as Bernays and Lippmann, to understand what is being done in the media and the “news” outlets?
I think the answer is “yes,” but wanted to check with you. Both men seem to have an excellent grasp on the applied psychology of Freud and possibly Jung. What excerpts I have heard/read seem very applicable and worth pursuing, but wanted to run it by someone who likely understand these matters far better than I do.
Thanks again.
“Do you have any suggestions on books to read regarding myth and symbolism?”
“The Power of Myth” by Joseph Campbell
“A Short History Of Myth” by Karen Armstrong
Vigilant Citizen also possesses pdf’s available for download. The biggest conspiracy it contends with besides symbolism would be trauama based mind-control via Monarch Mind-control (I have a pdf on it. It is incredibly cruel and sadistic, yet it is also common practice in ‘enhanced interrogations’. Enhanced interrogations isn’t to attain information as much as it is designed to terrorize the suspect and break their will. During the 1970′s through congressional hearings, the beta program was referred to as MK-Ultra, which if you’re familiar with Monarch Control the movie “Sucker Punch” makes much, much more sense in terms of plot and storyline).
“Do you think it is useful for the lay person like myself to read texts such as Bernays and Lippmann, to understand what is being done in the media and the “news” outlets?
“”What excerpts I have heard/read seem very applicable and worth pursuing, but wanted to run it by someone who likely understand these matters far better than I do.”"
Yes and you definitely seem to have good instincts. At least in my experience, sometimes during research your instinct and world view do clash, but the hardest thing is self-reflection and reevaluation after doubt has been made.
Although I feel sheepish for using it as a baseline, I am somewhat reassured that Henry Kissinger shares in this hobby, and it’s taught me logic can be used to influence/manipulate as easily as emotional appear. The game was developed in the 1950s called “Diplomacy”. The rules can be found online through a pdf, but the overall objective is to conquer Pre-World War I Europe. Just bare in mind of the game objective especially in the early stages, negotiations can be deceptive but movements of the units never really lie but interpreting its purpose can be tricky at times.
“You seem like a very wise person. I know myself and others like me appreciate the help of yourself and others like yourself.”
Thank you for the compliment, I simply do quite a bit of reading, and I do miss things.
“I read all of this twice and am still trying to figure out why WSI was okay with it, even colluding with it, for so many years, and now sees it for the evil that it was. Was he blinded to it, or made indifferent to it, by his wealth?”
“Do you have any suggestions on books to read regarding myth and symbolism?”
“The Power of Myth” by Joseph Campbell
“A Short History Of Myth” by Karen Armstrong
Vigilant Citizen also possesses pdf’s available for download. The biggest conspiracy it contends with besides symbolism would be trauama based mind-control via Monarch Mind-control (I have a pdf on it. It is incredibly cruel and sadistic, yet it is also common practice in ‘enhanced interrogations’. Enhanced interrogations isn’t to attain information as much as it is designed to terrorize the suspect and break their will. During the 1970′s through congressional hearings, the beta program was referred to as MK-Ultra, which if you’re familiar with Monarch Control the movie “Sucker Punch” makes much, much more sense in terms of plot and storyline).
“Do you think it is useful for the lay person like myself to read texts such as Bernays and Lippmann, to understand what is being done in the media and the “news” outlets?
“”What excerpts I have heard/read seem very applicable and worth pursuing, but wanted to run it by someone who likely understand these matters far better than I do.”"
Yes and you definitely seem to have good instincts. At least in my experience, sometimes during research your instinct and world view do clash, but the hardest thing is self-reflection and reevaluation after doubt has been made.
Although I feel sheepish for using it as a baseline, I am somewhat reassured that Henry Kissinger shares in this hobby, and it’s taught me logic can be used to influence/manipulate as easily as emotional appear. The game was developed in the 1950s called “Diplomacy”. The rules can be found online through a pdf, but the overall objective is to conquer Pre-World War I Europe. Just bare in mind of the game objective especially in the early stages, negotiations can be deceptive but movements of the units never really lie but interpreting its purpose can be tricky at times.
“You seem like a very wise person. I know myself and others like me appreciate the help of yourself and others like yourself.”
Thank you for the compliment, I simply do quite a bit of reading, and I do miss things.
Thanks, Grail Guardian. I have heard and researched about that book and it does seem to be very useful and appropriate for this topic. Thanks for the suggestion.
It’s so wild — all of these topics seemed like unbelievable conspiracy theory, but the more WSI and WHI reveal, the more believable these concepts seem.
Sorry, this comment was placed in the wrong spot. Please ignore it here.
You want to know what’s sad? I read all of this twice and am still trying to figure out why WSI was okay with it, even colluding with it, for so many years, and now sees it for the evil that it was. Was he blinded to it, or made indifferent to it, by his wealth? His access?
I question why a man, who admittedly helped construct this global money machine, and who benefitted so much from it, is now so interested in dismantling it?
I would love to believe it’s a flash of epiphany about the lofty greatness of the American Experience, but it seems more like he’s acting like a regretful Dr. Frankenstein – the monster was just fine as long as he controlled it, but now that the power has shifted out of the hands of our own money tyrants and into the hands of others around the world, it’s an evil thing that must be stopped.
NOW he wants to cry foul. A pox on all of them for what they’ve done to our country.
JTorg: Your statement has merit.
But would you rather have WSI remain silent?
And, have those other old men remain silent, those who can come forward and expose this…(fill in the blank).
Well, if they’re real, then it’s understandable… They’ve claimed that other Presidents have been seen as ‘manageable’, so to speak and it’s not like they, personally, were doing any controlling. Just making an understandable profit off of an existing situation (or at least, an increasingly likely one).
But the ones before now hadn’t threatened to so insidiously change the very nature of the system, itself. Or at least, hadn’t the contacts and resources to do so. That seems to be the interviewee’s primary concern.
I thought about responding above, but decided against it ontop of my browser going haywire on me (I don’t see a delete button)…
JTorg January 9, 2012 at 2:31 pm
“You want to know what’s sad? I read all of this twice and am still trying to figure out why WSI was okay with it, even colluding with it, for so many years, and now sees it for the evil that it was. Was he blinded to it, or made indifferent to it, by his wealth?”
I believe it was one of the Rothschilds that said something along the lines of, “the system we have created; people will either be too dependent on it or [enjoying] the profits to resist it”
It seems like the WSI is starting to realize; the system is transitioning into something in which technically his parent’s fled to escape.
Crony Capitalism is a key phrase here, which is in essence a merge of Corporatism (regarded as fascism to the allies during World War II/also known as national socialism) and Communism (former USSR). The public-private partnership isn’t just a partnership between government and business but also its respective unions.
At least, this is my impression.
I understand the globalization that is going on under President Obama and the consolidation of power that is currently underway. I believe that the only way to defeat Obama in November is not at the ballot box but at the gas station. If gas prices are high this summer Obama loses. Could the WSI be working with others in creating a demand situation where oil prices are high just in time for Obama to get thrown out of office? Certainly the Saudi Royal family has not forgiven Obama for the way he treated Mubarak. I am trying to connect the dots here.
Nobody but UM knows whether WHI and WSI are real… And he’d probably be the first to admit that. However, assuming, for the sake of argument, that they’re not only real people, but who they claim to be?
Then WSI has to know – has to – how much of a disaster a Ron Paul run against Obama would be. How it would simply push both independents and plenty of Republicans towards Obama, on top of the defaulting Democrats.
For that reason, I’d be very interested to know WHI’s view on this. They infer, after all, strong links to the White House and plenty of experience with Democrat campaign strategies. Assuming, again, that these people are who they say they are, then I’d suggest UM ask WHI his view of how easily a WH campaign against the guy would go, based solely on those years of professional experience.
Xeno: Be careful. The status quo establishment sure wants you to think that (Paul can’t win).
But a number of polls show Ron Paul is very competitive with Obama.
That Paul draws independents, moderates, and even some Deomocrats, fed up with Obama.
And, don’t forget young people — young people are flocking to Ron Paul.
These Globalists are behind stretching the military all over the globe, using the U. S. military for their Globalist purposes — purposes which don’t benefit the American public.
And, in the process exhausting our military capability (and our finances) to defend the mainland.
That is what Ron Paul is talking about.
Also, consider the NDAA and it’s indefinite detention of Americans provision. Our freedoms are being threatened at home by our own government. Ron Paul speaks to that: Economic freedom rests on a foundation of individual personal liberty.
Protected by our Constitution. Ron Paul speaks to that.
Oops, gave my reply below. Apologies.
In addition, though, look at Ron Paul’s military policy if you’re worried about that. Look at what he’s said. He wants to cut the military down to a purely border control function. That means scrapping or getting rid of all force projection assets like carriers. If you’re worried about the military aspects, it strikes me that this alleged globalist conspiracy is JUST as dangerous as RP. One isn’t more so than the other.
Xeno wrote: “He [Paul] wants to cut the military down to a purely border control function. That means scrapping or getting rid of all force projection assets like carriers.
False.
What Paul supports is non-intervention, that doesn’t mean maintaining only a border defense. It’s disengenous to claim Paul would “scrap” carriers. Show the readers where Paul talked about “scrapping carriers”. You can’t because he hasn’t said it.
I think that WSI meant that other candidates should consider Paul’s position on the Fed and embrace it , perhaps in a somewhat modified form . This is just about the only issue on which Ron Paul and I agree .
Several already have spoken about doing so, though. They’re not pushing it as massively as RP is, because they’re not riding the one-trick pony he is.
You can bet the allegedly ‘disillusioned’ Democrats will flock right back to home, once the main campaign gets into gear, though – RP is pushing the extremes of both Left and Right. He’s not going to get people in the centre. I’ve seen plenty of reports (not just from the media, but bloggers, too), where they show town hall meetings with the guy and the independents, right after, say they were turned off by either his foreign policy or lack of definitive solutions for negating unemployment.
The actual Republican base (those who are registered as Republican for reasons other than pushing his candidacy) in support of him is a minority.
Do a poll of Republicans and see how many would support him if he became the nominee or would go to the other side. I’m betting a fair percentage of them would do the latter.
I get what WSI is saying also regarding Paul. As far as describing people like Ron Paul and Ross Perot as nuts and crackpots, one thing I can say about them is that they are human. Real humans have quirks and idiosyncrasies, Ross and Ron are down home southern folk despite their business and political accomplishments. They don’t have that polished look of the Romney and Obama. That’s powerful, read Influence by Cialdini.
Chris, this is a very good point. We hate most of our politicians (rightfully so) and yet we continue to demand these “perfect”, emotionless robots that spout what we think we want to hear. These people aren’t normal and once they get into office, they do terrible things. Yet we keep demanding the same type of person.
We’ve all made mistakes, we all have an opinion or two that people would consider to be fringe and yet I strongly believe that most “normal” people could do a good job if elected to a political position.
We’ve made it so that any normal person with any skeleton in the closet will never run for office because we’ve demanded this faux-perfection. Consequently, we’ve eliminated most of the people that would actually do a good job.
That doesn’t necessarily hold water. Psychologically, most human beings tend to see through that. This is part of why Bush one against Gore and Kerry. The latter had that air of elitism mixed with a ‘used car salesman’ vibe.
And if you’re transposing it to today, you might as well look at Perry. The reasons people aren’t going to him isn’t anything to do with not looking polished enough. They just either don’t agree with his policies or think he doesn’t have much charismatic appeal.
If RP shares anything with Obama, it’s that he’s got a ton of pre-existing supporters who try to either shut up opposing voices or drown them out.
Bottom line: UM was called down for his conspiracy theory on Ron Paul. UM was right in that RP and Soros are connected through the groups they are affiliated with which pertain to foreign affairs.
The key to all of this RP conspiracy puzzle is “How would Soros fit in to RP’s domestic economic policies, one being the Federal Reserve.”
I think the connection can not be made, but I could be wrong.
The bottom line with WSI~~~
@ WSI, Sir, you speak in riddles. I simply do not know why you won’t tell us your conspiracy theory pertaining to this globalization. Why not connect the dots for us? Sir, some of us can not fly to DC and walk down 19th and G Streets.
It appears some of us would like to grasp your abysmal painting of the US economy, which I do believe is very very possible and coming our way. But you have a way with words, Sir. Be frank, be direct and we will be appreciative and hence there won’t be any riddles.
Thank you, Sir. Now let’s all go vote in November.
Kay112
January 9, 2012 at 5:25 pm
“The key to all of this RP conspiracy puzzle is “How would Soros fit in to RP’s domestic economic policies, one being the Federal Reserve.””
If you want open borders and advocate supranational government aka global government, I don’t think; Soros cares about the Federal Reserve with the IMF and World Bank more or less capable of conducting itself like the Treasury and Federal Reserve. The monkey-wrench is that Ron Paul also favors sound money which is the arch nemesis to fiat money like Federal Reserve Notes/SDRs.
As to downsizing the US military… Consider this, our welfare and warfare state is dependent on fiat money; otherwise, there isn’t enough wealth in a gutted economic system to sustain it.
With all due respect to Mr. WSI, he sounds as though he’s read a few too many Ron Paul Investment Newsletters, and too little history. There’s no real mystery in the Fed, not to a student of history. Printing money is as old as Crete.
Read: Mises, Hayek, and Bastiat. Read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist. Read some Frank Chodorov (esp. The Rise and Fall of Society), and then some Garet Garret (esp. The People’s Pottage). I would also suggest the works of Michael Novak and Thomas Sowell. This gives one a rounded view of the economic, political, and cultural dimensions of our current fiscal crisis. For dessert, read Albert Jay Nock.
Ron Paul is a fringer. A John Bircher type. A neo-Confederate. (Look up the biographies on the folks at mises.org, virtually all affiliated with Paul.) There’s a reason why Buckley said he spent a career separating the right from the kooks… it was true.
There’s no reason for all the muddiness. Obama is a MARXIST. Ron Paul is a NEO-CONFEDERATE. Romney is a LIBERAL REPUBLICAN. Gingrich, Santorum, and Perry would all be major improvements. (Romney too, for that matter.) Huntsman, well, who’s Huntsman?
Wasn’t it Perry who said he’d rough up Bernanke in Texas?
And may I add, this WSI sounds like a total egomaniac. Talking in riddles. Suggesting incredible personal power. Rather condescending from someone who won’t even reveal his name.
It’s no big secret. The way out of this mess is to elect conservatives to elected office. In 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, etc. until we re-establish Constitutionalism and limited, responsive government.
William, I’d say you sound rather condescending.
Perhaps a case of projecting your own motive onto your opponents.
Is that so? I don’t know that I’ve ever said “You’re not worthy of the truth” to somebody who was earnestly questioning me. I don’t talk in the verbal equivalent of pantomime. Hint: to sound less condescending, WSI should simply state what he believes to be true, and let the chips fall as they may. “I believe we’re being corralled into a one world government, coordinated by our Federal Reserve, with the cooperation of bureaucrats and President Obama.” Then present evidence to support this claim, rather than offer to pay someone to talk an enlightening walk down 19th St.
I’m not projecting anything. It’s the freakish Ron Paul supporters who can never take someone at face value, including their own candidate. No need to psychoanalyze your opponents. I’m a conservative, period. Not a neo-confederate, not an isolationist, not a mystery banker looking for “absolution.” As for the alleged revelation that the Democrat Party has been paying off its union constituents with taxpayer money, this is, sadly, old news. NEA? AFT? SEIU? It’s also a tried and true way of consolidating political power; organized labor doesn’t exactly have a clean record.
What’s unfortunate is that too few Paulies dismiss serious and credible instances of anti-Semitism and racism by Paul and his closest associates. What’s unfortunate is the Paul inner circle embrace of the Articles of Confederation and secession. You think legalizing heroine is going to win an election? Moreover, any U.S. presidential candidate should not be among the very small academic clique of Americans who have a hate on for Abraham Lincoln.
No “projection” there. Just the straight, unvarnished dope on Paul.
As a Conservative & Republican, I get sick & tired of Democratic Party smear tactics such as calling somebody a rascist to end the conversation.
William, I would hope you’re also tired of it.
Perhaps you need to do a little research. The Fed was put together in secret, it’s still not transparent in many ways. The Fed didn’t reveal it had made 16 trillion in loans to private banks and corporation, many of them foreign banks and corporations, until forced to by an audit law spear-headed by Ron Paul.
Maybe, after doing independent research or seeing if there is merit to Wall Street Insider’s claims your opinion will change.
Think about this FACT: The Dollar has lost 96% of its value since the Federal Reserve System was signed into law by a Democratic president, Woodrow Wilson.
While in comparison, for over the hundred years before 1913 the value of the Dollar staid relatively constant (yes, there were fluctuations, but prices generally came back to an equilibrium).
Does that have any significance to you?
Preserving the value of the currency — that’s what I and a lot of other Republicans call conservative.
How was our dollar under Reagan? How was our dollar under Clinton? How was our dollar under Bush?
I’m quite well aware of what the Fed does and why it allegedly does it. I’m always aware of the economic consequences of expanding the quantity of loanable funds through central banking and fractional reserve banking. I get all that, and I’m very much a gold standard advocate.
Having said that, I’m not in favor of Ron Paul because he’s a kook. Not only that, but he’s a lying kook. Making oodles of money off the publication of racially charged newsletters, and then claiming not to know what they said? Claiming not to know their origin? GIVE ME A BREAK!
And now he’s in the center of a vicious attacks on whom? Gingrich, Santorum, and now Huntsman.
Really Jimbo, would you ever vote for this guy? Do you want a conspiracy minded 9/11 truther who is to the left of Obama on foreign policy to be president? He shouldn’t even be a Republican! Matter of fact, he was so disgusted with Reagan that he left the Republican Party in 1987 to run Libertarian. And, frankly, that’s where he should be today – in another party.
Jimbo, I think William is thinking the same thing. There is so much duality and hyperbole to WSI that I wonder about HIS sanity as much as RP’s.
Here you have a guy who literally threatens UM’s career, and offers a veiled threat to his personal safety. But when this same all-powerful insider gets shoved and roughed up by a STREET THUG, he goes running off and hiding outside the city? WTH?
If these guys are so powerful, Occupy wouldn’t have been there for months on end. Bloomberg would have been FORCED to sweep the streets clean.
THAT’S why I think WSI really wants Obama out – Obama didn’t go along with the status quo. For decades, the Dems were whores to their benefactors. But this president can’t even “whore up” right.
Obama wants the Old Rich to pay up while he doles it out to HIS cronies. This is little more than a turf war, with our money. Chicago vs. New York.
The problem is, while these fools play “king of the hill”, serious, systemic damage is being done. To them it’s a game of power plays and access. But our enemies are at the gate and the walls are crumbling.
Nero fiddles, indeed.
William January 9, 2012 at 5:31 pm
“Printing money is as old as Crete.”
Weight…
“Read: Mises, Hayek, and Bastiat. Read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist. Read some Frank Chodorov (esp. The Rise and Fall of Society), and then some Garet Garret (esp. The People’s Pottage).”
Yet, John Maynard Keynes who through the General Theory essentially founded modern economics in which Hayek blew apart in his work. (Yeah, I know Keynes isn’t attributed to founding the system, yet the General Theory and his participation at the Bretton-Woods Conference played a key role. Fact of the matter is the world’s reserve currency status is the only real underlining ability to continue pursuing Keynesianism economics. Otherwise, Keynesianism will continue to expand, consolidate, and centralize the financial system through interventionism.
“Ron Paul is a fringer. A John Bircher type. A neo-Confederate.”
Understandable that you’d compare Ron Paul to John Bircher, referencing the society I’d imagine. As for Neo-Confederate… In essence, you’re referencing Ron Paul’s support to the 10th Amendment aka State’s rights much like national sovereignty means national rights.
“It’s no big secret. The way out of this mess is to elect conservatives to elected office. In 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, etc. until we re-establish Constitutionalism and limited, responsive government.
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Then, you’re looking at Ron Paul.
Huntsman, Perry, Romney, and Santorum advocate big government. Then again, if you view Ron Paul as a Neo-Confederate under the basis of his support to the 10th Amendment, which was largely destroyed by Lincoln through the civil war under the basis of succession. State’s rights are akin to national soveriegnty, which is national rights in the eyes of a supranational system the national rights become state’s rights. National rights descend down to individual and community rights (I’m not referring to collective but community). If you brush off the sexism of the time expressed in Aristotle’s work, he does paint a viewpoint basis of structure from family mechanics-government, which includes individual-national rights.
Bare this in mind in leiu to foriegn policy, we are within 2 years of a potentially explosive war unless the nations terminate these treaties sooner. In 2014, Sanctions will no longer truly be able to be enforced. Based on our economic strength not manipulated upward through the Federal Reserve policies true GDP is nowhere near its former 14.14 trillion. Fact of the matter is no nation on earth possesses the economic foundation to survive Cold War containment like the Cold War era. Interesting, how nations that we’ve help topple placing a more US friendly government also possessed oil resources and dropped the dollar in denominated trade treaties. Not to mention, they were adamantly anti-globalization.
Bare in mind, whomever wins in the 2012 elections will have to decide if they should attack Iran; prior to, these treaties expiring enabling the US to place bases and operate from them in largely the Middle East and contain and corral China in particular not to mention gain control or influence of oil export nations.
If I want war with Iran, I will vote Romney, Perry (didn’t he recently say that he’d redeploy US troops back into Iraq, which would come in handy blocking the Syrian-Iranian pincer on Iraq, and Santorum.
I’d vote for Huntsman if I want a President to continue economic infrastructure destruction through the ideologies of Developmentalism and Interventionism via globalization. But, Romney, Perry, and Santorum already got that covered.
Obama would probably invade Iran; provided, Iranian protestors hit the streets and was brutally knocked down by the regime.
Well, I wrote a detailed response but it was lost.
So if we look at the trees and not the forest you will see that by reading the material and news coming out of the World Bank,Federal Reserve, IMF reports, Treasury Dept Initiatives they are already setting policies here, it is in play and they are hand in hand.If America doesn’t end the fed it WILL BE Globalization. The more the fed prints and we take the more we lose our freedom(s). Listen and discern, Ron Paul has the fed pegged. Ron Paul would be a good one term president!
The problem is, because he’s right about the Fed, he has ZERO chance of being elected. The existing power structure won’t allow his presidency.
The smart move is to bring in an electable candidate, and then announce Ron Paul is going to head up the Treasury.
UM – do you not listen to/believe Glenn Beck? He’s been saying all this for a long time with proofs. I suggest everyone listen to GBTV (GBTV.com) – especially today as he says he’s found out even more mind-boggling stuff re this subject. So even if this WHI is not “real” – you can get the same info from others like Glenn & other conservative talk show people with their research/proofs. But many try to portray them as crazy, radical “jokes” also – so the truth won’t get out.
And yes, I agree with WHI & understand why he’s upset. UM – don’t let your “ego” get the best of you re his criticism. He’s right. He’s only afraid that by trying to make him a “joke”, you lessen chances of the truth getting out – he’s not saying he wants him to be President – only to listen to him about the Fed., which he thinks is far more important than the stuff about Soros.
I do hope and pray that he is “real” and pray for more to get the courage to do whatever possible, unselfishly – to get this out to the Repub. candidates, nationally. They/”we the people” are the Army to fight the enemies “within”!!! If there aren’t enough, we don’t deserve or able to keep a free and great country, based on a belief in God/Constitution. We’ll see……………
I have followed WHI insider from the start. I don’t quite get all of the WSI stuff. Lots of hokus pokus talk. BUT as far as WHI he has been amazingly accurate in what he has shared from the beginning. Anyone catch the new book about Moochelle Obama? Totally confirms what WHI said like a year ago. The Hillary news was first talked about by WHI. The Dems battling with Obama first by the WHI. It goes on and on. WHI has to be legit. No way somebody could get that many luck guesses. BUT where is WHI? My guess is he is working a a camapaign right now. My guess is the Romney campaign. IMO. Or manybe helping leak the anti Obama stuff?? Maybe both??? I enjoy reading the WSI and since WHI has to be real I would guess WSI is real also but a lot of it goes over my head. I don’t really get all the global conpsiracy stuff. But I love the down and dirty political stuff that WHI shares with you. When will there be another WHI update? Thanks UM! Keep up the work!!!!!
That photo of Obama with Jarrett standing behind him sent chills down my spine! You can so see how he is nothing but a puppet. As for those of you who like WHI more I don’t agree. WHI is a blowhard. Full of themself. Potty mouth. WSI seems much more powerful but also much more respectful. I will agree that WHI has given the readers some real accurate calls. As I watch the FnF stuff keep unfolding I sometimes forget it was WHI who first made that prediction. It was the DOJ that was gonna be the scandal. Nobody else was saying that before WHI. I hope that WSI is not right, but my gut says they are, and so what they are warning about is far more dangerous than FnF. If I am ever in Wash DC I’m def. gonna take that walk. I was there a couple years ago but not in that exact area. Will be interesting for sure.
I like both of them; each man (WHI and WSI) is in his own field of work. I agree with you that WHI has given news information which was waaaaaaaaaay ahead of the MSM. However, I believe WSI when he states that FnF isn’t as big a deal as the scandal of Solyndra because it is a chip of the iceberg of all the $ corruption (laundering) within the Democrat Party through that trillion dollar Recovery Reinvestment Act of February 2009.
I get what you say on that Kay about WSI and WHI. Both are very good in their fields it does seem. One thing I really notice lately is that a lot of Ulstermans work pops up in other places but a lot of the time he is not getting credited. Other sites are bascially taking his work as their own but I never see Ulsterman say anything about this even after I send links showing it. The one reply I got a while back was “the message is far more important than the compliment”. That made me think he was even more legit than before. Doesn’t care about the fame but just wants to get the word out. Its what good journalsim should be but hasnt been for a very long time.
You’re right, Rooster. Ulsterman is ahead of the pack via thanks to his connections with WSI and WHI. However, I wish Ulsterman would place a mailbox on this site so we can help Ulsterman stay on top of the latest news.
Daley gave his resignation letter to Obama last week and he is being replaced by Lew this afternoon according to Weasel Zippers. Although I dont trust every site on the net, I trust this one and Zipper over at http://weaselzippers.us/
This is big news because WHI reported a big player on the Obama team would be leaving the White House and so it is happening NOW….
As WHI said and I am paraphrasing~ This is to send a signal that the Obama Admin is dysfunctional. This is huge huge!
WOW, look:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/09/breaking-white-house-chief-of-staff-to-step-down/
Consider this people, those who are frantically trying to make Paul seem like best buds with Soros … does Ron Paul not seem VERY urgent about auditing the Fed? Does he not hammer home that the spending/ hemmorhaging of our $$ has to stop now!!? Why is he frantic on that?
Could Ron Paul be very aware of what the Soros/Gerard ilk are doing and plan to do? How do you learn what the enemy plans without an ear next to the door to hear?
The WSI words…quote
“At this very moment, there are individuals working collectively toward the implementation of a world crisis scenario that will provide the platform for the unification of the Federal Reserve, the IMF, with a strong assist from other such entities as the UN…the climate change movement is involved…those are merely laundering organizations you know…window dressing. Deceptions…climate change, AIDS relief, world hunger relief, disaster relief…on and on and on”
are the most important part of the interview.
Stop showing your ignorance of Dr Paul. He is smarter than all of congress put together and his heart is in the right place. He can and will win. He has more support of the MSM and movie stars than you care to know. He is the only sane one of the bunch. The others are NWO puppets. Plenty of wise people have woken up to all the good things that Dr Paul is about. And this BS about Dr Paul legalizing drugs and all the other BS mentioned above that sounds like it’s coming from a progressive marxist of which at this point I have no reason to believe otherwise. You are a marxist claiming to be a conservative….same shet different day. Your type is all over the web posing as a conservative. People-don’t be fooled by these lying posers. They are scared of Dr Paul and not for his policies. They are scared because NWO game over when Dr Paul is president.
You love obama’s foreign policy? You love NWO’s foreign policy? obama is getting ready to take us to world war III real soon. He supports terrorists and Islam taking over USA. How’s that for foreign policy? ah go soak your head. You are beyond redemption. I doubt you can even understand a tiny bit of what Dr Paul is REALLY about. Stop saying he is against jews and blacks. That is utter nonsense. It’s all over the web with jews and blacks coming to Dr Paul’s defense. If you can’t get on the Paul wagon then STFU. You are hopeless.
The other candidates are all NWO puppets. But no worry. WE will not even get to have an election. The usurper in the WH will make sure of that. He has already designed the take over of USA with him as dictator. He did say he is almost done with his plans, just a little more to do. OWS and T Party members are coming together to fight the dictatorship soon to come upon your door. You have missed the boat.
Dr Paul will have a team in his admin. He’s not going to be dictator running the show all by himself. He is not an extremist. Everything he does will be very measured. He knows what he’s doing. DO YOU? Obviously not.
Ron Paul’s Other Issue
Now just where exactly is the slush fund money needed to pull this off coming from? Who has the most unaccounted for money on the planet? About 10% of world GDP.
In view of the above, it’s amazing really, that Americans continue to enable all this…by paying taxes.
Dear Ulsterman,
I used to wonder if WHI was a fake….but these guys must be real, because WSI just totally *schooled* you on Ron Paul…and what’s amazing is, you still don’t totally get it! I can see why WSI was frustrated with you…for a smart guy you really can be dense sometimes. I think it’s because you must come from a more typical conservative mindset, and you haven’t immersed yourself in the type of libertarian thinking that is behind much of the support of Ron Paul.
So I’m glad he called you out on your Ron Paul conspiracy obsession. You were starting to jump the shark with that. Yes, I am aware that Glenn Beck has also been connecting the dots between Ron Paul and George Soros…but Glenn Beck is wrong about Ron Paul. (I actually like Beck, but I don’t agree with everything he says and sometimes he goes off “chasing windmills” too.)
Do I think Ron Paul is the perfect candidate? Nope. Do I agree with everything Ron Paul is about? Nope. But is he purposefully part of some George Soros conspiracy? Absolutely not.
I think you do much better when you focus your energies exposing the Obama administration. Lay off Ron Paul. Even though he can be naive and sometimes misguided on certain issues, Ron Paul is one of the few beacons of light in politics right now,
Ono were you speaking to me? If so, a failure in comprehension.
Here’s “honest” Ron Paul:
http://pjmedia.com/blog/selling-reagan-the-unconscionable-hypocrisy-of-ron-paul/?singlepage=true
Hates not only Lincoln, but Reagan too. But have no doubt about it, he’ll run deceptive, vicious ads claiming otherwise.
Pretty much. Been wondering when those in the debates were going to call him on the contradictory statements of Reagan, since that would be pure red meat to their respective bases, but nobody has tried yet.
William wrote: “[Paul] Hates not only Lincoln, but Reagan too.”
William, you are the hater.
Paul regrets the CENTRALIZATION OF POWER in the federal government as a result of the Civil War, not that he hates Lincoln.
As far Reagan goes, Ron Paul was an early supporter of Ronald Reagan, Paul supported Reagan in the 1976 Republican nomination contest.
Paul became disillusioned with Reagan when the size of government kept growing under Reagan and the deficit and debt kept growing under Reagan and regulations kept growing.
Many Republicans at the time were also disappointed with those developments in Reagan’s second term.
Jimbo,
What do you really know about Ron Paul? I’ve read the literature of his intellectual cadre for years… people like Thomas DiLorenzo, Tom Woods, Lew Rockwell, etc. I’m well aware of their opinions because they are very clear about them. They really do hate Lincoln and Reagan.
Reagan spent the better part of 40 years advocating on behalf of Constitutionalism, limited government, and free markets. He tried to abolish the Department of Education (and, I believe, the Department of Energy) but was stymied by whom? Democrats and liberal Republicans.
All of Reagan’s budgets were declared “dead on arrival” by Tip O’Neill. Despite the true obstructionists in Congress, Reagan revived the economy brilliantly and brought down the USSR by forcing an expensive arms race, making Gorbachev concede to nuclear armistice.
Compared to Ron Paul, Reagan attracted large majorities of Republicans and a large number of Reagan Democrats. He did not apologize for American values nor did he blame the United States for the lunacy of foreign terror regimes.
Ron Paul has nothing on Reagan; that he to this day self righteously bashes Reagan’s legacy says a lot about this small and petulant former Republican turned libertarian.
See: Ronald Reagan, Warmonger
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard54.html