The second part of our latest interview with a longtime D.C. political operative…
Hold up. Let’s talk Fast and Furious. Let’s talk Solyndra…that ties in with -name deleted-. Might explain why they haven’t spoken to you recently. There’s a big shove comin’ on that. The old man is finally puttin’ some skin in the game. And about damn time. And as far as the California stuff…that make your chin hit the floor a bit, didn’t it? Imagine that. Take that money laundering…all those hundreds of millions in campaign dollars cycling through there…and now reward the players with a Supreme Court position and put them first in line to replace Eric Holder at Justice. Four more years – and none of it will get out. NONE of it. Ever. You noticed that then. Good on you. I’ll let you in on somethin’ I haven’t admitted before. -Name deleted- ain’t the only one following the comments to your stories. I’ve been known to sneak a peak or two myself…you got some smart folks making some real connections. Some of it closer to the real deal than they realize. Do me a favor and pay attention to some of that. Most of it…a lot of what’s left is bullsh-t…but you got some people…some of them got the right eyes for this stuff. -Name deleted- told you to slow down and notice what’s sometimes right in front of your face. You might wanna take them up on that advice son. I ain’t gonna be available to hold your hand through this – gonna be too busy now. This thing is on its way. You need to learn to do the work yourself and not wait for me to spoon feed it to you all the time.
UM: (long pause) So let’s start with Fast and Furious.
Insider: Sure – let’s do that…
Fast and Furious is…it’s outta our hands. Been that way for a quite a spell. Information – communications…it was given over to them some time ago and promises were made. So…now we wait and watch like everybody else. Pieces have fallen into place you know…the memo I spoke of months ago…that came to pass, right? The gun control angle. There has been quite a bit of talk linking things back to Chicago…so there is quite a bit to be satisfied with on this whole thing.
UM: If Holder stays in place – NO. All the work is for nothing.
Insider: Be patient on this…let the work play itself out. Either the Republicans are being very weak or very smart…I’m prayin’ they are being smart…but we also gotta prepare for the possibility – we gotta plan for the fact they might drop the ball on this. It could happen. I’ve got nothing concrete to say that it WILL happen…but it could. You’re good to worry. You should be worried. We all should.
UM: I read something that said Issa cut a deal with the administration on the investigation. That Holder will be left alone.
Insider: I am not aware of any kind of deal – not like that. Was this a news report?
UM: A blog report.
UM: Yes…that Speaker Boehner was shutting the Congressional investigation down. That Issa was being told to back off.
Insider: No…haven’t heard anything to confirm that. Not saying it’s wrong necessarily, but…we got people who would hear about that. I recall telling you something along the lines…this was over a year ago…how there were Obama people popping into Issa’s office periodically when this first started to unfold…but haven’ heard anything like that for a while now. In fact, information is being locked down, which usually signals something big is about to fall…so I remain optimistic at this point. Cautiously optimistic mind you – but still optimistic.
Once we got to late summer – it appears they decided to push this out to 2012. Make it an election issue. I won’t fault them for that. That’s good politics. Tough politics. Smashmouth politics – that’s how I would have done it.
UM: Are you assisting in those decisions? Coordinating with Republicans?
Insider: Not in any kind of official capacity – no. Like I said – how this all plays out from here…outta my hands.
UM: In an unofficial capacity?
Insider: There are…(pause)…there are those of us of a like mind…we share a common goal that crosses party lines. Been that way for – well I know I’ve spoken to you about it already before. This ain’t no Democrat or Republican thing – it’s about the country. It’s about fixin’ a mistake.
UM: President Obama being the mistake.
Insider: That’s right.
UM: You mentioned Solyndra – there has been more news coming out on that. A little bit anyways.
Insider: Solyndra is…it’s complicated. Hard to wrap it into a neat little package that people can recognize and run with. But the more news coming out that you’re talking about…we got a friend who is helping out on that now. Something really pissed them off. They ain’t talkin’ on it – but it’s got back to me. I don’t know what the administration did this time to set them off – but the old man is pissed. And he don’t get that way often – but he’s motivated now. Big time. This Solyndra thing…I always said it couldn’t be coordinated like Fast and Furious…too complicated. Too big. The administration would dance away from it. And it could tie in with too many others – they would be worried about their own ass. Maybe he’ll prove me wrong. And if he does – God Bless him.
UM: He said he was preparing to go to war with the administration.
Insider: I read that…your interview. If he’s going to war…if he is gonna get off his ass and really take this thing full on…he ain’t done that – I recall only one time in all the years…one time he took on a president like that. Only one time before. You see, he goes about with his good manners, his respect for the country, the office…all that bullsh-t. Not to say – not sayin’ he’s not being sincere ’cause he is. But underneath that…the guy is tough on a level you or I…we won’t ever understand. And he’s got the kind of pull…scary power there. Those people…I work my ass off…laying the groundwork…all the plans…the work…and they just pick up the phone and BAM! What’s done is done. Just like that. No gettin’ their hands dirty – no rollin’ in the mud with the rest of us. Just…done. But now…like I said – the old boy is pissed. He’s gettin’ in the game – REALLY gettin’ involved now. So that’s gonna be a big benefit to us here. And the recent uptick in Solyndra news – that’s gotta be him. He’s pushin’ that. Lightsquared…he’s gotta be all over that too because that’s personal. That’s…that’s his backyard.
UM: What about the primary challenger to Obama?
Insider: That…there were news reports on that. You at least got confirmation there was a push within the party…or those associated with the party for that. So what I told you was legit. It didn’t quite get there – but there were people trying. It was a longshot – we all knew that…but…well…all of this might be a longshot.
UM: Nobody wanted to step up and put together a challenge against Obama?
Insider: If you followed the news reports on it – those came out…started to come out about a month after you and I spoke about it, right? So gettin’ someone to take on a sitting president – that’s a scary f—-ing proposition for somebody. We thought we had somebody willing to go there. Not to defeat him in a primary – that was never the plan. That would never happen. But to weaken him. Create a bit of chaos – push down the enthusiasm. Basically the same thing that’s being done to the Republicans right now. Get that? It’s the same playbook basically – just different f—ing players.
You catch old Nader out there…sayin’ how everywhere he went to try and find somebody to challenge Obama, the White House would step on that person. He all but said threats were made. Now that’s is exactly what came back to me – so Nader wasn’t lyin’ on that. Now this was a good two months or so – maybe three months…after we talked. After I told you we were trying to line up a challenger to Obama. We had one individual who had signed on to do it – they gave it some thought and said OK – let’s do it.
UM: What happened?
Insider: They were threatened. Had to be.
UM: Did you confirm that with them?
Insider: No – they just shut up. Wouldn’t return our communications. It was just…just dropped. That tells me they got spooked. They were got to. And to spook them…well…that musta been a hard hand that slapped them upside the head. The kind of hand that comes from a presidential administration. They like makin’ those threats – these Obama people. So…whatever. Move on. You lose a little battle- but the war goes on.
Our focus right now is gettin’ the Republican side to get it’s sh-t together. Like I said – all this infighting…it’s too much. It’s harming the effort. I am all for a go get ‘em primary race. What’s goin’ on now though – they gotta cut this sh-t out. Decide who can beat Obama, get behind that nominee – and then go after this president.
UM: President Obama feeling pretty confident these days?
Insider: Well…he’s gettin’ to campaign – and he loves that. He gets to be out of the White House. Away from the First Lady. He gets the crowds, he gets the media coverage…so he may not be entirely confident – but he’s much more satisfied being a candidate than a president. The work of being president is then left to others and he’s fine with that.
Insider: Yeah – Jarrett.
UM: What about Daley’s departure? The signal to the party – to others that this administration is a lost cause?
Insider: That’s happening. If you know what to look for – you see it happening. The signal was sent – the signal is being received.
UM: You got an example of that?
Insider: This is what I’m talkin’ about here – you gotta be able to pick this sh-t up yourself now…I ain’t gonna be around to point it all out for you as much…
You got members of Congress raising concerns…you got coverage in the Times and the Post less than favorable…not all the time now -that won’t ever happen… but there’s a lot more criticism comin’ lately – the past few months…than you saw at any time before. The administration is runnin’ out of Kool-Aid. Keep an eye on the gas prices issue…it’s gonna play out against this administration in a big way by summer. And it was no mistake on the pipeline…the administration’s…how they killed the pipeline. That was no accident…they thought it was their decision? No…it was a mistake…it was orchestrated against them. They played into our hands on that – BUT…the Republicans gotta capitalize on a gift like that. And they can’t do that when they are spending so much time rippin’ into one another. Grow the f-ck up already, right?
And back to Jarrett – there’s gonna be more investigation into her role in this administration. This flyin’ under the radar bullsh-t is gonna come to and end. Let her feel some heat straight on for a change. By the mainstream. No more of this hands off bullsh-t. Watch for it ’cause it’s coming. Gonna make her sweat – like a fat Elvis.
UM: Will Daley play a hand in that?
Insider: Done and done son…
UM: If you were to wager – place a bet on Barack Obama winning the election in 2012…what odds would you give him?
Insider: Right now? The way these Republicans are messin’ around? Better than even at this point. Maybe 60%. Maybe a bit better than that.
UM: That good?
Insider: Look – they haven’t even started up the racism stuff. The class division stuff…you think they have? Not even close. Gonna be a whole lot more of that sh-t comin’ by summer. The Occupy crap – they are still working that out. How they wanna use that thing. Axelrod is…he had a meetup with some of that – some of them… a bit back. About a month ago – a few weeks ago. Yeah – keepin’ tabs on the mustache.
And don’t forget the threat to the president. What took place – those shots at the White House…test run stuff. And where was my credit for that? Hell – I told you something along those lines was about to break – and what was it…couple weeks? Couple weeks and then it happened? There will be more of that kind of thing comin’. Gonna fit in with the race card stuff. How those terrible mean ole’ Republicans never gave Obama chance ’cause he’s Black you know. That was it. Not the fact he’s pretty much set the world on fire while he’s at it…no – it’s just ’cause he’s Black, right? All that stuff is gonna try and come together.
This is what we got comin’ down the road right-quick now. Those gas prices are goin’ up. The Middle East…the administration has bungled that up so badly – some in the media are gonna finally take ‘em to task for that. BUT…Jarrett thinks a little military conflict timed for the summer…might help their cause a bit. So watch for that – that can’t be a surprise to anyone whose paying any kind of attention. Lotsa folks been sayin’ that looks to be coming now. Except what I know is that you’re gonna see some Dems stand up and point some fingers right at Obama on that one – right at Obama…his administration. And some in the administration are gonna do the same. So that information isn’t out there yet – but you’re gettin’ it now. There’s a lot more infighting on this issue – the Middle East problem…Israel…than is being reported in the open.
Oh! (snaps finger) Got a story for you on that!
Insider: The Israel situation – Iran…the nukes…
There was a meetup with some Saudis on that issue – don’t know the specifics of that…just that it happened. Anyways…the administration’s people come back to Obama with the update. No…they don’t come back to Obama but it goes to State – gets passed on…makes its way to -name deleted-. Now -deleted- would be the one to inform the president – or Jarrett. Maybe Jarrett first who would determine if the president should be included or not.
UM: -Deleted- who?
Insider: -Name Deleted-. NSA. Good guy working in a bad situation up there. Been there ’bout a year. Goes back…we go back.
UM: You and -Name Deleted-?
Insider: That’s right. A bit. Been a few years…
Anyways…so it gets back to -Name Deleted- , right? The Saudi meeting – whatever was discussed – information…whatever. And -Name Deleted- sends a memo to the president. Like an update I suppose. That part ain’t important. Whatever the communication was.
So it’s several days…maybe a week later. After the fact. After the memo was sent – and the president…he ain’t been around, right? Been on the road. Campaigning. Whatever. So he’s havin’ his morning briefing. Jarrett controls that agenda. She includes the -Name Deleted- thing. Now you need to understand here…the situation in the Middle East is very volatile at this point. Gettin’ worse every damn day. Horrible over there. State knows it. NSA – CIA – Pentagon…they are all on edge with this thing. But not so much the president. His focus is on November, 2012. It’s on the applause of the crowds. It’s on looking cool again, right? What I told you before about that – looking cool?
So the Saudi info is put out there – tied in with the Middle East thing – the Israeli situation.
Now here’s the president’s reaction. Here’s what he says – verbatim.
“F—ing Israel. I don’t care anymore. They won’t listen – so f-ck them.”
UM: Those are his exact words?
Insider: Yes – exact words.
UM: F-ck Israel?
Insider: F-ck Israel.
UM: How do you know that? What he said – those words?
Insider: It got back to…it made its way back to the source.
UM: -Name Deleted-?
Insider: The source. Let’s just call it that.
UM: And then to you?’
Insider: No…it got back to the source…then made its way to State. Then it made its way back to me. If they say that is what was said – that is what was said.
Look…this president’s hostility toward Israel is pretty well documented by now. How he treated the Prime Minister. Don’t forget – he sat in a church for 20 years that was openly hostile to Jews. The dots all connect on that stuff – and pretty damn easily too.
But where the real danger – the real hostility against Israel is coming from…that’s Jarrett. And I don’t know what her endgame is there – but if I were Israel…they gotta be very nervous. There ain’t ever been an administration like this one so hostile to the Jewish state. Never.
UM: So what’s your next move?
Insider: Hit the road again.
UM: You are working a campaign aren’t you?
Insider: Like I said – not officially…but somebody gotta show these Republicans how to take down the administration – ’cause they sure as sh-t don’t seem up to figuring out that for themselves…
PART ONE OF THIS INTERVIEW HERE