A longtime D.C. political operative considers today’s Supreme Court ruling on Obamacare a good thing in the fight to defeat Barack Obama in 2012.
Here’s why.
This will be quick. Don’t have time to go over all of this with you right now. Don’t forget the work going on w/Holder.
The Obamacare ruling is good news for us. Real good news. It’s 2010 all over again now. Swing states will shift over to Romney in most cases. Trust me on this. We’ve done the polling. The data is conclusive on this. It’s a huge tax. We got Obama lying. Again.
The Tea Party movement, which was as real and powerful a political movement as I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, is back in play. That scares the hell out of the Obama White House. You just got a bunch of Dems sweating hard over their re-election. The Republican Party will now be a lot more focused and clearly conservative and that’s exactly what they need to be this time around. We must make the election a clear divide between one side and the other and this Obamacare ruling has forced that to happen.
And the initial reports I’m getting are telling me there was a lot more clever going on inside that decision than the initial reaction will indicate. It’s the Obama Tax now. And states were given an out. The entire law is a big ass convoluted mess and the ruling has reinforced that fact. Obama will have to defend something he doesn’t understand, and Romney can now sit back and just repeat over and over again “repeal-repeal-repeal”.
You can call bullsh-t on me here and I’ll understand if you do but I’m telling you right up this ruling today is GOOD NEWS. Politically, as a motivator, it’s great news. Watch contributions toward Republicans jump up even more than they already were. Watch the Obama White House have to face very hard questions over the Obamacare tax issue. Watch states rise up to challenge the administration using the weapon the Supreme Court placed in their hands to do so. Watch the Tea Party come back stronger and more powerful than ever.
The giant has woken up. Country needed a hard kick in the ass to remind us what is at stake in November. Now we are truly ready to fight.
Last thing. Romney was preparing for this decision. He gets to go with the better script now. He’s coming out swinging hard on this one.
Chin up. Fists clenched. Eyes open.
Let’s roll.
-WHI
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UPDATE DIRECTLY FROM INSIDER FOLLOWING CONTEMPT VOTE:
“DONE GOOD TODAY.
OLD MAN SAYS HI.
CONGRESSMAN GOWDY’S STOCK WENT UP ABOUT 1000% WITH ME. GUY IS A BEAST.
GOT 17 DEMS TO HANG TOUGH AND VOTE W/REPUBLICANS. NOT BAD.
TAKE CARE.”
-WHI
I don’t subscribe to the opinion that a half more year of hell’s fire will make heaven feel that much better. This is a terrible day. Indeed, this should arouse the beast — however, I just hope he is not dead.
Fuck Obamacare!
I don’t think I have been this depressed since my brother died. One more blow to the hopes of the people who cry out for justice. Shame on SCOTUS for woosing (sp?) out. I am in the first stage of grief, just incredibly sad. I’ll probably get to anger right about the time of the election.
I thank the WHI for the candle of encouragement in this darkest of times. He’s right. This announcement should push more voters to the conservative side. It will also make the O-rangutans in the WH even more unbearable. I use the analogy of orangutans because they are always showing their shriekingly ugly a@@es at every opportunity.
Perhaps this spelling is what you’re looking for: “wuss, wusses, wussing, wussed”?
Love the O’rangutans. Perfectly fitting and accurate.
Thank you. It was “wussing.” In the duress of the moment, I was drawing a blank on the correct spelling.
My first reaction was: the fight is on. Against nanny staters of all stripes.
A fight club video.
http://classicalvalues.com/2012/06/gird-you-loins/
I was hoping for a 7-2 defeat, and I’m seriously disappointed and perhaps to the point of rage. WHI claims that’s a good thing. He may be right – I didn’t think I could get any angrier at this Imposter in Chief. And I am not alone.
This is a deep well for Romney to pull from.
The thing is that this gets a lot of undecided(s) ( as if you could be undecided on Obama vs Romney) upset and motivated which is a huge plus for us.
A lot of the anger that came forth in 2010 was over ObamaCare. There are people in states like mine where they are Democrats, but they are Conservative Dems. They vote pro-life, they vote pro-gun, they won’t in favor of ObamaCare. They get what’s at stake.
A lot of them will see the hypocrisy because the same unions who are exempt from ObamaCare are the same unions who are going to be telling them how great the Liberal Democrats are. A lot of them don’t buy the rhetoric.
As much as I’m P.O.’d, I realize there’s still time to fix this mess.
I AM SO MAD. BULLSHIT. AMERICA BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM ALL OF US. HOPE WHI IS RIGHT ON THIS. GONNA GET EVERY DAMN PERSON I KNOW TO VOTE OUT THE FRAUD OBAMA. BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT.
Speaker of the House Boehner had said that we should “not” spike the football if the rulling was in our favor.
This was from DrudgeReport:
DNC: ‘IT’S CONSTITUTIONAL. BITCHES’…
DNC DELETED TWEET: ‘TAKE THAT MOTHER******S!’
This is the type of “low class” people we are dealing with!!
Nothing new. Heard Ed Henry read the “Bitches” tweet from a WH staffer. That’s as low as they go. Respect for this administration has been eroding. For anyone on the edge, this low class act will seal the deal. Barry must go!
Here’s the screen shot.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/06/28/dnc-director-on-obamacare-ruling-take-that-motherfuckers/
Good thing Boehner didn’t want US gloating. What a jackass.
There are two… the mf and the bitches. The ‘bitches’ was by Patrick Gaspard which was immediatedly deleted and followed up with a more formal statement and apology.
Totally classless!
Some of the commentors there were worse than the tweeter….gezzzzz
WHI is right. The decision by the court will strap down Obama to this huge Obamacare tax. Its an unpopular bill and now it will be right along with the economy the big issue of this election. 2010 was a big win for conservatives. Now put that energy into a presidential election year and it will be that much bigger of a win.
Yes, I completely concur. WHI has got it correct from a political strategy perspective. And frankly, that is all that matters at this point. Because Obama is still in power and can do much more damage if he remains in power. Which means, the number one goal is to get him voted out.
Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win a war. And sometimes, as sad and damaging as it may be (and the upholding of Obama Care is about as bad as you can get in this regard), you benefit from having a martyr to rally around.
Liberty died because of Barack Obama’s mega tax.
There are far worse things to run against if you are Mitt Romney. And that means that this ruling, as WHI says, helps the Mitt cause greatly.
And right now, that is what matters more than anything.
I agree with you and Reader on White House Insider’s analysis!
Let’s Roll!!
Heck yeah, Kay. Let’s roll! On to November and the end of the Obama 1-term presidency!
Ditto! Let’s pick up and carry on. We knew this was going to be a fight. Now, we’ve got to win the war.
Agree with all here. Barry will be running against his own words. So many lies, so many 1/2 truths, so many retractions. All Mitt (and his superpacs) has to do is replay the conflicting sound bites.
Now it’s time we get truly serious, TTLG.
The Giant has awoken.
“Because Obama is still in power and can do much more damage if he remains in power.”
Yeah, like he could appoint another liberal justice. [/sarc]
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It’s incredible this administration has done so much damage to the greatest nation in the history of this world.
But as much damage as has been done, a 2nd Obama term could be the coup de grâce for America. Just as WHI and WSI have said.
As bad as things are, they can get much, much worse. Our job is to help ensure we never see that day.
In med pot states traffic fatalities are down 9%. Accidents even more. You can see what is coming. And it is for your own good. And to lower health care costs.
The nanny state will have finally caught up with the nannies on the right. Totally delicious to contemplate.
I’ve done a whole post on that:
http://classicalvalues.com/2012/06/a-new-era-in-drug-testing/
This is the crucial matter: Roberts said that the federal government cannot force individuals to purchase insurance, but it can levy taxes; therefore if an individual doesn’t purchase insurance, he can be taxed.
Obama claimed that this is not a new tax.
Roberts basically threw the ball out slo-mo, painted bright orange and said “swing away.” He gave us a lethal argument, one that will cost House seats all over: Obama and those who voted for the bill have levied a new tax – even for folks who aren’t “1 percenters.”
My response to the Democrats is the same thing William Wallace said in the movie Braveheart to the Brit messenger – the scene at Sterling Bridge.
FREEEEEEEE-DOM?
The problem with the tax is that it’s un-Constitutional all on its own. The Sixteenth Amendment says that Congress can levy taxes, but that they must be “uniform across the United States” or that they be based on the Census. This tax is neither. Therefore it does not meet the Constitutional requirements for a tax levied by Congress. It is, in effect, a punitive tax levied to punish people. This is why we fought the first Revolution. We should have another one in November. Throw the bums out, starting with Obama.
Just this:
http://classicalvalues.com/2012/06/gird-you-loins/
I have to agree, to some extent. The portion of the ruling that I read clearly said that the mandate AS A MANDATE is unconstitutional. But that a tax is constitutional because the gov’t has freedom to tax. Therefore, the Supremes have batted the issue back to Congress by calling the “mandate” a tax. The House has scheduled a vote to repeal some time in the next week or so – this isn’t going to go anywhere because even if the House votes to repeal, the Senate (our pal Harry Reid) will just table the issue. But after the election (if we do this right) there will be enough of a conservative majority to repeal. Romney also said his very first DAY ONE job will be to see that the law is repealed. And he will be able to do this in a heartbeat if he has Congress.
I also think that this is going to push a lot of people to vote for Romney. Dear GOD, I pray. BUT, don’t forget – we also need to purge the House and Senate.
Unless the Republicans have 60 votes for repeal in the Senate, the Democrats will filibuster it for the next 4 years. Any bets on whether the Dems will be branded “obstructionists” in the press?
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE:
“Oh, and as I mentioned earlier, because John Roberts concluded it was a tax, the Democrats cannot filibuster its repeal because of the same reconciliation procedure the Democrats used to pass it”
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/06/28/im-not-down-on-john-roberts/
I favor “lets roll”. Down with the nanny state. All of it.
Analysis is powerful and this is the kick in the butt America needed to vote Zero out. No ambiguities about what’s at stake – and should rouse even the most complacent.
The classic —
Q: What’s worse than not getting what you want?
A: Getting it.
— will play out for Zero & Co. in spades.
He lied.
Huge tax.
Can’t play the underdog or blame anyone – including the court.
Politically, you nailed it, Obeline!
All of Obamacare was not ruled constitutional. It was being called out as a tax which Obama lied about. And it gave states the right to not pay into the new system which does make it a huge mess of a bill like WHI says. More and more of the real decision is now getting out there. Not the big victory for Obama at all. And people are pissed off about Obamacare.
So, if it’s a federal tax, yet some [states] can opt out or are not taxed [meet criteria], is that equal protection, or will some be treated differently?
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Dred Scott.
“Taxed” (i.e. fined) for inactivity.
WHI thinks too much like a pollster and not like a lawyer. This decision is horrendous.
Exactly my thoughts.
We are living in an age wherein all three branches of government are now in the hands of one puppet and the tyrants behind him. We’re not going to have clarity on the issue, as a nation, until it affects Americans’ bottom line–which is after the elections. By then, it will be too late.
I don’t see the glory here. I DO see that it will increase the Republicans’ coffers. I’m mailing out a bigass check this afternoon.
I agree with WHI in calling B.S. on this. Today’s decision gave precedence to the fact that the government can tax anything now. Even repealing ZeroCare isn’t going to change that.
It is a horrendous decision. But I do understand why WHI is looking at this as only a part of the strategy to fire up the voters needed to defeat Obama come November…and the Senate and any Dems in the house.
From the decision, as well, it’s not a “sitting pretty” decision for Obama. In fact, the decision came down in a way that directly opposes everything Obama said about this:
1) The Individual Mandate WAS deemed unconstitutional as a penalty.
2) This IS a tax.
THAT is in our political favor, because it puts Obama in the position of having to defend his position the last few years AND defend a huge tax hike on the middle class.
He’ll also need to defend the exceptions he handed out. He’ll need to defend why HIS staff is exempt. Why CONGRESS is exempt. He will look at this as a win, but it’s just the beginning of a very, very focused battle.
This fight is NOT over. Today’s decision was far from the end on the ObamaCare Tax. (We should all start calling it that.)
Someone on twitter said that founders would be rolling over in their graves. I disagree. I think they would standing up and yelling, FIGHT. They started their uprising because of a tax. We WILL take back America because of one, too.
And fight I will.
I will not pay one penny for this. Not one. If this means war with the IRS, then so be it.
In my estimation, this is how things will happen:
Perhaps a third of the states will opt out, perhaps more. The uber-lib states will most certainly sign up…California, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc. Then, they will attempt to pass the underfunded portions to the other states through line items.
Haven’t read the ruling yet, but my guess is that there’s wriggle room for politicians to pass the overhead to non-participating states.
Either way, it will only matter if Barry isn’t reelected or the economy holds out.
That’s what I thought when I first heard. “Dred Scott”.
WHI isn’t a lawyer, so he wouldn’t think like one. I know – stating the obvious – but the politics of this matter too.
I’m just so pissed off right now.. I can’t believe the court did this to us..
The have recharged the obama administration Now they will be singing at the top of their lungs that their bill forcing us into buying healthcare insurance which the prize everyone was paying has tripled.
Mine went from 900 a month for me and 900 a month for my young son is now over $5000 a month.
I can’t afford it and make to much money plus have to much pride to ever go on medicare.
I could go with cheaper insurance but it doesn’t pay for anything. Doctor visit cost me 85 dollar even if I pay cash..
X-rays are $1,500 and an MRI IS $3000, Blood test $600+ depends on how many but the lowest is $600.
This was with paying $1,800 a month . Healthy child checkups $200. Shots $400 to $500. a pop.
See I live in a very tiny town less then 2,800 people. the next two closet towns are 56 miles and 78 miles both towns know that if you don’t get you medical work down in my town you have to come to theirs and they charge even more…
Now I’m really screwed.. I can’t afford healthcare insurance and I can’t afford the tax obama will attack to my IRS bill. I’m so screwed… I have to pay tons of money every month for my husband who is disabled thanks to a drunk illegal immigrant with no insurance and at the time I only had $50.000 coverage on my car and hospital for uninsured drivers..$ 600.0000 for the three months he was in the Hospital and $3000. and up every month just to keep him in doctor visits and medications.
But hey.. this is a great day for us.. Now if Congress will just vote to let Holder off the hook my day will be complete.
I’m going to lose my house because of this mandate.. The IRS will take it freeze my assets and that will be that.
Good day, yea fucking right.
Noah, I reposted your comment at the Troll House:
http://www.thetrollhouse.net/forum/index.php/topic,10960.0.html
And added this:
“I dont know…I paid $500 for a fee for Quebec Health care for last year coverage…
I did not use any of it(I’m never sick), but for the wife, who is covered by the Indian Treaties,
it must have cost a couple hundred thousand(intensive care and stuff)
In the States, shit is really screwed up…in Florida, it was costing me $400 a month and $400
a month health insurance to my employer, in 2000…now it is about $2000 a month…”
When I crossed the St Lawrence River going back home north, I felt like a Mexican crossing the Rio Grande GOING NORTH!
Thank you.
I have more stories of other family members being over taken by the their medical bills.
It’s bad out here.. Really bad..
I agree with WHI and UM.
The SCOTUS has ruled that what was once called Obamacare, is now ObamaTAX.
With this ruling all hell will break loose on Barry, the pretender to the throne of King George. This indeed will incite the Tea Party for further action, protest. Taken to the extreme, it could lead to Civil War. In a lesser measure, it will be a major platform for Romney and a polarizing factor for the middle class and especially independents.
Another observation: BARRY LIED AGAIN.
No matter how Barry tries to spin this, he just lost the election.
@TLG – you are exactly right. Justice Roberts forced Oblowme to tell the American people that he just raised their taxes. More specifically, he told those who earn less than $250,000 that he lied when he said that his plan would not raise their taxes. This is his “Read my Lips” moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q8erePM8V5U
All of the idiot OWSers and 99%ers are hootin and hollarin and doing back flips in the street. Wait til they realize what their boy has done to them.
That fact, plus as WHI said, this will rally the Tea Party like never before. I’m already seeing it other blogs.
SBS, It’s all over facebook. Even saw a ‘poster’ “Now everyone who posts on fb will become a consitutional scholar”! This topic blew up to 50+ comments in less than an hour.
Yeah, people on both sides will be spinning away. Thing is, when all is said and done, Barry LIED. His own words will impeach him.
Was it Roberts that shook his head ‘no’ during a SOTU speech when Barry was dressing down the SCOTUS? Perhaps turning the ACA from a mandate to a tax was his way of ‘payback’. Now Barry has an even bigger mess on his hands.
Yeeee-ah! Let’s Roll!
I wonder if many of those OWSers and 99%ers hooting and hollering are also on mom and dad’s insurance plan — so they see themselves sitting pretty.
I wonder how they will feel about this when they turn 27 and are suddenly forced to pay this tax?
Great idea TTLG. This would be the right day to change the name of Obamacare to ObamaTax everywhere and every time we use it. That’ll make it stick.
It was Justice Alito/
Price… I’m going to have to many typos on this to even bother to fix.. typing while pissed will do that to
you.
I’m crushed and elated. The end result of this ruling is that now a precedent has been set for the Commerce Clause to have unlimited power. There’s no good or service that the government cannot make compulsory.
That being said, WHI is right on the money. This is the best possible outcome for winning a lot of elections in November.
By saying it is a tax, it upholds that Congress is empowered to legislate levying taxes. SCOTUS ruled that the ACA does not ‘qualify’ under the commerce clause but as a tax!
This will be no more than double-speak spin with plenty of democrat-code to cram down the throats of the American people as a political issue. Within minutes Barry will be walking back his meme that Obamacare is not a tax. SCOTUS ruled otherwise. He can’t spin this any other way.
Sit back and watch Barry dance his way around this now as he tries to salvage what is left of his campaign.
You’re right “Through”.. I’m officially walking back my statement as I work my way through the 193 page ruling.
This might change as I’m only on page 60 so far, but this is, in it’s own way, a surprisingly conservative ruling. It did NOT expand the commerce clause and it puts Obama in the aforementioned box politically for lying about this not being a tax.
There’s some very unusual statements by Roberts in this decision, informal statements that I’ve never seen before in a ruling by the Supreme Court or any Federal court. Those statements make me think that there’s more to Roberts decision here than meets the eye.
One of the statements that caught my eye: “It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.”
Re-read that sentence. That is a very loaded sentence considering the scrutiny that Roberts knew would be directed at this decision.
As an aside, I would strongly encourage everyone to download and read the decision when you have the time. This is a much more nuanced event today than I was expecting based on reading the ruling.
This morning’s ruling draws a very hard line as to the limits on the Commerce Clause against the American people’s freedom going forward. That is the good news. Nevertheless, Roberts is wrong: it absolutely is the SCOTUS’s job to protect the rest of us – and the Country – from the bad electoral decisions of the majority by using the legal and philosophical constraints left by our Founding Fathers as guiding principles.
@doctorate: …which is the electoral process, power of the legislature to appeal and amend the laws as necessary and the justice department to rule on those laws.
@RyanMN: “It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.” That is an interesting statement. I haven’t read it all, but from what I’ve heard so far, there are several such “couched” statements within the assenting and desenting opinions. I’m sure that these statements will be political fodder for the next few months.
I agree and encourage everyone to READ the decision. I knew even before reading it that all was not going to be well in liberal land when I heard that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was not happy with the final decision on the mandate. i am so tempted to deliver flowers and a card of congrats to my dem congressman over the victory they got today on the ACTA.
Thank you for mentioning that. I will do that.
Namecookegramma, You should deliver a FUNERAL WREATH! I suggest we all make/deliver funeral wreaths!
BUT disappointment put aside, it is not Obamacare, it is OBAMATAX now. Sounds better doesn’t it. Imagine the protests. Imagine the slogans! Remember the Boston Tea Party? It was all about a tax. This was a message to the people from Roberts
Nope, the SCOTUS ruled against the use of the Commerce clause. What Roberts did was point out that it was a tax!!
The legislation is positively schizophrenic, and as a foreigner I am sitting back and laughing at the way that the White House Administration is attempting to hide from the fact that this is a tax…. and a very big one at that!!
What Roberts has done is hand to the POTUS a poisoned chalice. This is a very unpopular piece of legislation, and with good reason. The fact is that a lie has been exposed because Congress does not have the power to do anything unless it is a tax.
What this has done is prove that Obama is a liar. He claimed that he would not raise taxes, and look what he has done (thanks to this SCOTUS decision). You can bet it should make you angry. Keep up the anger until the November election and unleash your fury on the POTUS.
Coming from a country where we have government interference in our healthcare choices, I understand why you are all so very angry. The whole thing does not work because the word “healthcare” is itself ill-defined. It is about more than insurance. In your case Abominablecare is a massive government intrusion into your private affairs. At least over here I can still insist that any of my results from tests do not appear on any register (at least for now I can let them know in uncertain terms that my results are not to be registered). Health insurance is not healthcare. It is insurance.
“The Obamacare ruling is good news for us. Real good news. It’s 2010 all over again now. Swing states will shift over to Romney in most cases. Trust me on this. We’ve done the polling. The data is conclusive on this. It’s a huge tax.”
0). I am compelled to disagree with the WHI that the individual mandate is a tax even though there appeared to be plenty of tax regulation compiled in that very painful 2,000 page read. First, the Individual Mandate is a central planning technocracy coercive tool unlike auto insurance in many states; you can purchase a State ID without being required to purchase auto insurance. The Individual Mandate is a coercive tool designed to grant central planners aka Keynesians, technocrats, and bureaucrats now possess a legal past precedent to evoke to enforce Ideological agendas. IE, the Obama administration and its Executive Branch through its various agencies can now: 1). Dictate what the populace chooses to consume, and this has been mentioned to be an angle Michelle Obama greatly advocates. Much like the bailout enabled the Federal Government to in some ways dictate how the funds to be allocated and by when. The administration also possesses a precedent to further ‘Green’ Growth because the Individual Mandate dictates if you make enough to purchase coverage’ you are now legally obligated through the mandate or face an estimated $5,000. Effectively, the individual mandate offers the Federal government an expansion of taxation, penalties, and etc. So, it shouldn’t come as a surprise when if Obama in particular is re-elected; the populace could be mandated to: Conduct banking at governmental approved banking institutions like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, and etc who I might add possess the most ire from the Occupy Wall Street and whom in particular Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, and JP Morgan Chase make millions off of governmental benefits by manufacturing EBT cards and etc. Also means the Air Protection Act and etc can be used to fuel the Green Economy ambitions and so much more including further advocating a highly regulated and cashless economy (you know for the good of progress and for your own good).
Having written that, I am compelled to strongly agree with WHI here. Many people are dedicating more and more time into becoming politically aware, and Obama’s healthcare reform has little to do with health reform and universal coverage than further stagnating small businesses and consolidating the Medical health coverage industry to governmental fiefdoms like Cobra and etc, which would be on par to arguing since everyone born and works must eventually open a bank account particularly with direct electronic deposit from work to be forced to conduct banking with governmental fiefdom banking institutions who inevitably would be Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, and etc that further enables transitioning from fiat currency to fiat virtual credit aka cashless. With the 2010 election’s response to Obama’s administrative policies, I strongly believe that WHI is right. People are getting really fed up with Big Government, Big Industry, and Big Union public-private partnership.
The majority of the SCOTUS ruled it is a TAX. Nothing more, nothing less. It is a TAX.
Fred June 28, 2012 at 6:41 pm
“The majority of the SCOTUS ruled it is a TAX. Nothing more, nothing less. It is a TAX.”
Perhaps, you overlooked the quote that I was assessing:
“The Obamacare ruling is good news for us. Real good news. It’s 2010 all over again now. Swing states will shift over to Romney in most cases. Trust me on this. We’ve done the polling. The data is conclusive on this. It’s a huge tax.”
Even within this piece, WHI expressed:
“And the initial reports I’m getting are telling me there was a lot more clever going on inside that decision than the initial reaction will indicate. It’s the Obama Tax now. And states were given an out.”
The term is effectively political expediency. There’s actually two directional directions of political expediency being displayed here:
First, the SCOTUS enabled an avenue in which recreates the political atmosphere of 2010 in which the Democrats lost many seats effectively granting the House to become run by majority by the Republicans and allowed inroads into the Senate. Additionally, the ruling enables the States a way to opt out/fight it besides flexing the 10th Amendment or effectively State’s rights. However, there is a secondary here:
Second, SCOTUS’s ruling expresses that the Individual Mandate in which expresses that the person must not only possess healthcare coverage or face up to $5,000 in ‘neo-taxes’ but coverage must also meet Federal approval like Cobra, Medical Mutual, and etc in which Obamacare names about 6 healthcare insurances providers as acceptable in which expands the ability of said Federal government to say you have purchase X items at X places.
Under the argument presented, the Individual Mandate is a tax rather than a penalty or fine in addition to ‘everyone born must at some point per take in the medical industry and thus participate in that industries commerce’ opens the door to:
Under this argument, it can then provide taxes and governmental approve in which banking institutions a person conducts banking interests in particular with direct electronic deposits. It doesn’t take much effort to assess these governmental approved institutions would be Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, and etc on down to Merril Lynch, Fannie, and Freddie. Other items that fits this argument is: Installation of Federally approved Bio-metric national ID cards as well as auto insurance, life insurance, possessing and requiring X amount of credit usage, and so much more.
Effectively, this creates more profits for various governmental fiefdoms in regard to sickcare, deathcare, credit bubble inflation, increased use of EBT/Cash assistance (2 EBT cards), and getting to work in a public/private Big Union for a Big Industry aka consolidation, expansion, and centralization of the public-private partnership.
Political Expediency is rarely conducted to be linear but quantum, which is also why unintended consequences happen frequently outside a Big Government, Big Industry, and Big Union public-private partnership enabling central planners to be in abstract 100% more accurate.
dittos
1st. of all “THANK YOU” WHI, for all you do, for us and for America. You, Sir are a Patriot. And a GOOD 1 AT THAT.
I agree with you on this being “Good News”.The Cato institute (being 1 of many)putting out an article, on HOW, (now that it has been declared a “Tax”)STATES can OPT OUT!!!
Good news indeed Sir.Any other way, may have caused Riots,Looting any many other scenarios.
God Speed WHI!!!!!
That the states can “opt out” is the most important news in the otherwise depressing news. Gov. Perry ~ please make Texas the first state to opt out ~ we’ll do better on our own anyway and it will mess up Hussein’s little ‘victory’ in a huge way. Do it ASAP Ricky!
Don’t anyone forget the upcoming debate! Sept. or Oct. or whenever it is ~ that gives Romney’s minions plenty of time to rebut anything positive about this outcome (tax) Also, Hussein is not the high intellectual genius the Left likes to say. He has little idea what’s in OCare and will not be able to debate it. It’s 2700 pages long ~ do you really think he’s going to read that? No, and neither did congressman before they voted on it.
Isn’t it time for another vacation Barry?
During the 2010 mid-term elections, I believe that it was in the general election of 2010; Ohio voted to disallow the Federal government’s healthcare reform ‘Obamacare’ to supersede State’s rights and past. If I also recall correctly, this occurred along with Ohio’s issue involving Public Union’s ability to Collectively bargain, which was craftily written as it was confusing for many voters.
The “opt-out” option refers to the Medicaid portion of the ACA.
Scott Walker( Gov.of WI)
Announced almost immediately after the Supreme Court decision was out,that Wisconsin,,, WILL NOT BE PARTICIPATING in Obamacare…..
Love him,,, simply love that man….
I do agree with WHI’s opinion on this… the anger we feel is so much higher right now and I believe that the independent voters’ anger will also rise. I believe that the fight is just beginning and that we will win the end-game… which is not just the presidency (Romney can’t do it by himself), but the Senate as well. Then repeal-repeal-repeal.
However — having said that… my long-range concern is the precedent this ruling sets for future cases where the Left tries to take over our lives. They’ll be able to point to this decision for any number of new ideas on how to govern our private lives.
“They’ll be able to point to this decision for any number of new ideas on how to govern our private lives.”
Exactly.
With all due respect WHI, and I mean that… this is no moment to celebrate. The government cannot order people around, but CAN fine them for not doing something.
All semantics. Individual mandate stands as law now. Goodbye Constitution, Obama or not.
The Drug War is precedent. It is for your own good.
I’m sick and tired of your drug propaganda. Go smoke a joint and leave the rest of the productive citizens alone.
I may be wrong about this, but I suspect that M. Simon is much like me, a non-drug using conservative. That’s conservative with a lower case “c”, not an upper case one.
I’m sure I’m wasting my breath here considering your previous comments, 57, but it has nothing to do with encouraging drug use. It’s about it being hypocritical on the part of the Republican party to claim that they stand for liberty but refuse to allow people to put what they want into their own bodies. Secondly, it’s about the enormous cost in both tax dollars and lives to make a highly desired commodity illegal. Thirdly, it’s about common sense: The drug war has been an abysmal failure.
And lastly, it’s about opening your eyes to the hypocrisy of our own government. Our own Intelligence agencies have a decades long history of narco trafficking to fund some very shady operations all in the name of “Liberty”. This is not hearsay, this is FACT and can be confirmed as so with the smallest amount of research.
Again, that’s why getting Romney elected is important. Who we get on the Courts matters.
Lets get savage.
http://classicalvalues.com/2012/06/gird-you-loins/
The people are now widely aware that Obamacare is a tax…the biggest tax in our history. That Obama lied…that his new army are the 12,000 newly hired IRS agents…that Obama is taking your liberty, your right to manage your own health, no longer between you and your Doctor but is now between you and Obama. And can take your property and go directly into your bank account if you do not comply with the dictator…
There will no longer be folks who prefer to say Obama is a nice guy we simply disagree with…there will no longer be folks afraid to tell the truth about the man who calls himself Barack Obama. The lines have been drawn…it’s Broken-glass Romney or slave to Obama’s thug-state.
Say. Did you mention the “Conservative” favorite – drug prohibition?
Let us put an end to the nanny state. All of it.
Con’t…kudos to all the Patriot Posters here
Well, I sure am fired up even more than I was before and I didn’t think that was really possible. Thank you WHI. You gave me a bit of hope on what was a very depressing start to my day!
>>>Watch the Obama White House have to face very hard questions over the Obamacare tax issue. <<<
HAHAHAHA! If history is any gauge, hard questions will NOT be asked of his majesty. At least not by the press, knob slobberers that they are. I hope this is a silver lining because it's a very, very sad day for America and freedom.
I and others have said over the past couple of years the best thing that could happen to Obama and the Dems would be for SCOTUS to invalidate Obamacare. It would get them off the hook for what they must realize by now is a POS law people hate and would give them an issue to jazz up their base with (“Right wingers on the SCOTUS took away YOUR FREE HEALTHCARE.) By upholding the stupid law, the SCOTUS denied them both of those. By calling it a tax, they shoved it straight up their asses. As WHI, called them “LIARS” to their faces. If this wasn’t planned, it was the best bit of serendipity in a long time.
I’m THRILLED TO DEATH this is good news. But, Romney sounded so damn boring when he was speaking about it afterwards, that I had to turn it off. Too, too painful to hear him sounding like some old fart trying to explain a very boring story. Sad.
Someone better give him some uppers. Or something.
This worked for me….
Romney: ‘If We Want to Get
Rid of Obamacare, We’re Going
to Have to Replace President Obama’
No more Mr Nice guy! I’m going after Obama, the POS, with all I have! Romney better find a backbone, or we will need to school him in acquiring one pronto!
Take a moment to go over to Redstate.com and read Eric Erikson’s take on John Robert’s opinion. I think you’ll find it very enlightening, I certainly did. It just seemed to be that little silver lining. Remember, we want the goods for the LONG haul…
We’re all Obamacare slaves now!
My lesson: We the people fought for and died for this country. We the people elected this government to lead us. We the people are responsible for reclaiming our sovereignty and liberty.
This is our country and we must take it back. Never again will I rely on the government.
@AZVick, I did not vote for anybody to “lead” me. I vote for people to represent me. Huge difference.
It was best for him to deadpan his delivery than to appear overjoyed and thrilled that now he has a huge platform to display Barry in all his failings and shortcomings. So far, I think Mitt has played this very well.
He’s right. It may have been a ruling to favor Barry, but it is a ruling in favor of the people to vote him out off office. There is no possible way for Barry to spin this TAX in his favor for a win. He will be lucky to be able to debate and defend it. No amount of preparation and no overwhelmingly favorable press questions will save him from stammering and stuttering to cover his but and retract his lies.
Obama Wins the Battle, Roberts Wins the War
The chief justice’s canny move to uphold the Affordable Care Act while gutting the Commerce Clause.
By Tom Scocca|Posted Thursday, June 28, 2012, at 11:59 AM ET
There were two battles being fought in the Supreme Court over the Affordable Care Act. Chief Justice John Roberts—and Justice Anthony Kennedy—delivered victory to the right in the one that mattered.
Yes, Roberts voted to uphold the individual mandate, joining the court’s liberal wing to give President Obama a 5-4 victory on his signature piece of legislation. Right-wing partisans are crying treason; left-wing partisans saw their predictions of a bitter, party-line defeat undone.
But the health care law was, ultimately, a pretext. This was a test case for the long-standing—but previously fringe—campaign to rewrite Congress’ regulatory powers under the Commerce Clause.
This is why the challenge to the ACA, and its progress through the courts, came as a surprise to Democrats and to mainstream constitutional scholars: Three years ago, there was no serious doubt that Congress had the power to impose the individual mandate.
A Bloomberg story last week nicely captured the stakes: “Obama Health Law Seen Valid, Scholars Expect Rejection”:
The U.S. Supreme Court should uphold a law requiring most Americans to have health insurance if the justices follow legal precedent, according to 19 of 21 constitutional law professors who ventured an opinion on the most-anticipated ruling in years.
Only eight of them predicted the court would do so.
The scholars expected to see the court gut existing Commerce Clause precedent and overturn the individual mandate in a partisan decision: Five Republican-appointed justices voting to rewrite doctrine and reject Obamacare; four Democratic-appointed justices dissenting.
Roberts was smarter than that. By ruling that the individual mandate was permissible as a tax, he joined the Democratic appointees to uphold the law—while joining the Republican wing to gut the Commerce Clause (and push back against the necessary-and-proper clause as well). Here’s the Chief Justice’s opinion (italics in original):
Construing the Commerce Clause to permit Congress to regulate individuals precisely because they are doing nothing would open a new and potentially vast domain to congressional authority. Congress already possesses expansive power to regulate what people do. Upholding the Affordable Care Act under the Commerce Clause would give Congress the same license to regulate what people do not do. The Framers knew the difference between doing something and doing nothing. They gave Congress the power to regulate commerce, not to compel it. Ignoring that distinction would undermine the principle that the Federal Government is a government of limited and enumerated powers. The individual mandate thus cannot be sustained under Congress’s power to “regulate Commerce.”
The business about “new and potentially vast” authority is a fig leaf. This is a substantial rollback of Congress’ regulatory powers, and the chief justice knows it. It is what Roberts has been pursuing ever since he signed up with the Federalist Society. In 2005, Sen. Barack Obama spoke in opposition to Roberts’ nomination, saying he did not trust his political philosophy on tough questions such as “whether the Commerce Clause empowers Congress to speak on those issues of broad national concern that may be only tangentially related to what is easily defined as interstate commerce.” Today, Roberts did what Obama predicted he would do.
Roberts’ genius was in pushing this health care decision through without attaching it to the coattails of an ugly, narrow partisan victory. Obama wins on policy, this time. And Roberts rewrites Congress’ power to regulate, opening the door for countless future challenges. In the long term, supporters of curtailing the federal government should be glad to have made that trade.
Not only did Roberts limit the Commerce and Necessary and Proper Clauses, he got the idiot liberal justices to go along with it. The Commerce clause is used by congress to expand its power, Necessary and Proper is used to cram social policies down citizens and the states throat. By limiting those powers (arguably rolling them back), and with Liberal backing, he is hamstringing Congress in the future and inviting future cases.
By writing that Congress could TAX for any reason they wanted, Roberts threw it back into the political arena where it belongs. The penalty for the mandate IS A TAX. Penalties, interest, fees, etc paid to government are taxes and are used not only for revenue but to change or modify behavior. The penalty is a tax to modify behavior. The remedy is political and the Liberal justices agreed to it. The Liberal Justices handed the the political cudgel to Romney. What dupes.
The furor over the ObamaCare act resulted in the drubbing that Democrats took in 2010. It died down when people knew that it was going to be decided by the courts. Both sides assumed it would be upheld or stuck and it disappeared for a while from the political landscape. It has now come roaring back after the Court has flipped all of the political calculations on their head. Roberts plays the long game.
ATB and Elliott, Thank you both for your excellent analysis and comments. Only the idiots and the morons will claim a victory where none exists.
We still have work to do.
Again, applause and gratitude.
There was no genius in this opinion whatsoever. Any gains for the republicans are purely ancillary, if not entirely predictable. Anyone that thinks Roberts outfoxed the libs by getting them to agree it is a tax and that it isn’t constitutional on other grounds need only come to the realization that Roberts did not need to outwit anyone had he sided with the conservatives of the court. Their five collective voices could have bitch-slapped O today in a scathing review that rolled back the commerce clause, as well as the good and necessary clause, but could have also severely limited the congress by telling them what it could and couldn’t tax. That would have been genius.
Excellent point, Sally.
My comment below/above should have posted to thatsitivehadenough above…5 ‘floors’ up!
@AZVick, (again). I owe you an apology. I think, hope, that you actually meant the same thing I said but maybe just used a bad term? At any rate, I am pretty PO’d just like the rest of you here and I lashed out. I am sorry. I have been trying to post an apology but wordpress says I am posting too quickly(?HUH!). Maybe this will get through this time.
I am trying to get some of my random thoughts down (soooo many!) and will post them later for review and comments.
@TTLG, thank you.
SallyAl No offense taken. And thank you for your gracious follow-up. Semantics aside, I will never trust government again. Period. I will not count on Romney or the GOP to fix this. I realize it is our job to fix this, and doing so takes many forms.
What is in Washington DC is an illegitimate body of elites who seek power and enrichment at my expense. The only real and legitimate thing is the Constitution and the Constitutional government of the United States of America no longer exists.
Hear THIS! I say Roberts has out-foxed the liberals. Time will tell, but this goes beyond WHI’s comments that Conservatives are better off for his choice, come November.
Again, I remind those who read here that Roberts shook his head and mouthed the word “No” when Barry had the hubris to scold The Court during his SOTU address. I think the Honorable Justice has the intelligence and knowledge of the law to show Barry the door. At least the hopeless romantic in me makes me believe this as a motivation… to pull the wool over the eyes of some and the rug out from under others while at the same time inspiring We the People to hold elected officials to the letter of the laws of the Constitution of the United States.
mouthed the words, “not true”
Alito mouthed ‘not true’.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/27/alito-not-true_n_439672.html
Yes, it was Alito.
Dear God, I hope WHI’s right….
United States Corporation.
That is our future if we don’t stop the insanity now, for if left unabated, the government will gather absolute power over each and every one of us in every aspect of our life.
Next stop in the new bizarro world, is full implementation of carbon taxes and the police state.
Remember Pearl Harbor.
This is a wake-up call.
” . . . Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is portrayed at the very end of the 1970 film Tora! Tora! Tora!, and in the 2001 film Pearl Harbor, as saying after his attack on Pearl Harbor, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.” . . .”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isoroku_Yamamoto's_sleeping_giant_quote
TO THE VOTING BOOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you can be taxed for what you DON’T do, an abstract as opposed to a concrete, will they now be table to tax us for NOT being black, for NOT being a registered Democrat, for NOT buying a Government Motors car? How can they justify taxing people for what they DO NOT DO? Ths is insane. It is not a tax- it is a fine, a penalty. And suppose you refuse to pay the “Tax”? Do you go to prison? Do they confiscate your house, your car, your savings? This is beyond apalling. I am angry beyond words.
I can’t be a Pollyanna about this. Every day that passes with ZeroCare in place is a day that a once-great healthcare system won’t get back. Obama and Supercilious are moving at WARP speed to implement this monstrosity into every facet of our lives. And if you think RomneyCare, “Mr. Finger in the Wind,” is going to fight for our liberties, well, I just won’t say it.
So what happens if every single state opts out?
I also thought that it was a dark day – at first . Then I pondered the probable political ramifications to the decision . Obamacare would never passed if , as the Republicans asserted , the penalty for the individual mandate was actually a tax . Obama denied it repeatedly . Believe it or not , SCOTUS just handed Obama a bomb with a lit fuse ; they have just made Obamacare a political issue which will now become central to both campaigns . Remember that the majority of people oppose Obamacare and that a lot of them are downright angry about it . This will motivate a lot of voters who lacked enthusiasm . Romney now has another platforf from which to attack Obama and I don’t think that identity politics will hold up to withering assaults on both the economic and health care fronts .
WHI is right and Justice Roberts is a genius .
That should read “would never HAVE passed”. (Always proof read before posting , dummy !)
We need to now call this what it really is. It was never about “care’ or “healthcare”. And put the Traitor-in-Chief’s name on it:
It’s OBAMATAX. Say it over and over.
OBAMATAX!!! OBAMATAX!!! OBAMATAX!!! OBAMATAX!!! OBAMATAX!!! OBAMATAX!!!
I’m going to take the words of the WHI and believe that this watershed event will mark the beginning of the end for this despicable administration.
Valdemort and Barry S., you’d better start packing your bags because you are done.
Correct me if I’m wrong
1) The ruling is that the Commerce Clause cannot be used to mandate purchases. CRITICAL. HUGE DEFEAT FOR OBAMA
2) The constitutinality of the tax itself was not ruled on because it has not been collected yet.So it could be challenged if it is eventually enacted and collected.
3)Taxes can be repealed
YES! You are correct, it does seem to me. We all need to be calm and remember the little kid at Christmas who found his christmas tree covered in horse poop…..it means there HAS to be a pony somewhere.
Oh my, how I laughed at that. Thank you.
What happens to medicare now, will he still take the 500M or B from medicare?? Medicare is NOT an entitlement./ We have paid into the medicare system as did our employers and we, Seniors, are still paying with $99 taken out of our Soc Sec Checks every month. Have United Health Ins and they do NOT pay for crap! We are facing huge medical bills and hospital bills and UHI claims they do not get any money from the gov and medicare refuses to pay jack shit for anything because we have UHI. Can anyone explain this crap to me?? Medicare cannot and neither can UHI. Think I will take bankruptcy next after we are finished with any treatments that are on-going. This obamatax is only going to help the illegals and the rest of the MF society. We are not only angry but totally pissed! Want obama out of office now before he puts another libturd on the SCOTUS!
Will read the SCOTUS decision now!!
WHI, WSI thank you for what you do, have done and will do. Thanks UM for forwarding the messages.
Yes! Totally agree about Trey Gowdy. He has bigger nads than the entire democrat representation in the House. They were not elected to walk out on their duties. Remember that in November!
Btw: What is it with the Dems in WI and now in the House that they walk out instead of voting? They aren’t worth their salaries and certainly not their pensions. Keep that in mind the next time they come up for re-election and give them a pink slip.
Just give me a holler when 2-3 million Tea Partiers are heading to DC to throw every last JackAss who voted yea for the ObortionTax bill. Let’s roll America, I want my fricken country back now!
BTW: now the government can legally mandate you buy virtually anything – and tax you.
November cannot come soon enough.
Thank you for the “reality” check WHI.
Really needed it.
Look at it this way: this is a Pyrrhic victory for Obama. He has been handed a poisoned chalice. Lesser educated people will not understand the subtleties however.
And as Roberts said, it isn’t the job of SCOTUS to protect the people from their electoral choices. I however think it IS.
BUT, in the polls recently, even though those polls were skewed and rigged, there was still a significant Obama vote.
Now we get to replace the name “Obamacare”(since when did he care?) with OBAMATAX! Sounds way better and instantly reminds everyone what this really is, AND makes Obongo to be a LIAR because he said he wouldn’t raise taxes.
I agree with WHI. Every Democrat running for office now owns this tax because they all voted for it. Obsms owns this now and can’t run on it–and he doesn’t know enough about it to defend it in a debate so Romney can chop him up with it if he has a set–which he better. Loved the pitbull Congressman who went after Holder–he’s got his balls and Boehner’s too–and I think he got with-Holder’s balls on a platter. How much truth do we need? I want it ALL!
I’m too tired and depressed to get angry. SO looking forward to whatever the hell Congress feels we should buy next. Not.
And may the gods damn the sheeple who let this happen by voting in that uber douche for president unto 9 generations. Hmmm…I guess they’ve damned themselves and their descendents, haven’t they…along with the rest of us.
Gods help us if he gets a second term. I’m already looking into other countries to move to, once my husband finishes his Master’s. This one will go straight down the crapper.
Heh…just wait til the sheep find out just how much their taxes are going to go up, as the quality of their medical care goes down. The subsequent tirades will burst eardrums, but IT WILL BE TOO EFFING LATE, YOU BUNCH OF STUPID, STUPID CATTLE!!!!!!!!!
Look here, sister, I don’t know yeh, but that has never stopped me before, …
…so let me just say. your last sentence calls into question your first.
Chill, drink some mate or something, or something stronger, take two aspirin and call me in the morning.
Oh, no, nevermind, I am closing my practice, or would if I were a doctor.
Upon learning that the justices were not guaranteed to vote left, President Barack Obama led a chorus of denunciations of judicial “activism.”
Did he threaten the judges? Remember the attacks on Breyer?
Thanks for the encouragement, WHI, but I guess I’m one who will wait and see. Yes, I think it will enthuse people more, contributions will go up (it’s gone up about $2 million so far I hear), Tea Party will become even more determined, some will decide to vote for Romney who weren’t before. Also I appreciate that it mentioned the tax issue but at the same time I am appalled and angry that it was upheld. I don’t agree with what was declared about all that and I don’t think he was trying to be super clever; heard from people who know about him more and they warned others years ago that he was not really a “Conservative” and he has ruled with the liberals twice or so before in the past. He also has said that it was his place to “make it work” somehow – and he did via a bizarre way. It’s plainly not constitutional and I agree with the other Conservative judges who dissented and said that.
Re the lying – the people who are pro-Obama and still undecided probably don’t care if he lied and the rest of us already knew it.
But….re the state opt out deal – I understand that to be about Medicaid – and if they reject it, they won’t get all the money they would get otherwise so how many will reject it? We don’t know the numbers yet. I pray WHI is right….we should be able to judge better in the next few weeks.
I’m very impressed with Roberts chess strategy on this. In the first paragraph of the opinion, he absolutely states that the individual mandate is unconstitutional. Then. he goes on to say that it is not the Court’s place to write legislation and basically, if Congress wants this legislation it has to be under its power to tax.
So, Barry goes into his re-election having created the largest tax increase in world history
BTW, right after the decision came down, the Romney campaign took in 2.5 million from about 20,000 donors, basically in 8 hours today, so far.
Update: 3.2 million as of 10 PM since the decision in donations to Romney campaign
T and J., I am very encouraged by this ruling today. It will force Romney to veer right and conservative. We needed a catalyst to force him there and this will be it. If Obozocare hadn’t passed then Romney could play it middle of the road but now he can’t. I am very optimistic on how this will play out. Now, the Dems will have to defend this monstrosity and the huge Tax implications. Obozo loses on both counts.
I was worried before this ruling by us becoming complacent but not now! “For if God be for us who can be against us?” and “What Satan meant for evil God meant for good”. Today, I am more determined, more focused, more energized than I have been in awhile.
I predict that 2012 election will make the 2010 election look like a “Too close to call” event.
I too lost my kid sister (only sister) this year along with my Father within 3 months of each other so I know how you feel and I am sorry for your loss. Take heart in the fact that you know where he is at and his earthly troubles are past. God Bless.
Very, very bad day for the country and freedom, in general.
I concur, but the sleeping giant will rise up once again.
….Just remember, it ain’t over til the fat lady sings.
The Court may have giving States a way out but Obama will take away all federal funding for any state that opts out of the obamacare mandate.
He has shown us time and time again what he will do to a state that does not walk lock step with him and his dictaor administration.
Look at Arizona, Look at all the States hit with tornados and hurricanes. Those who went against Barry are in deep shit trying to clean up and rebuild with no help from the federal government. FEMA.
Wouldn’t even call Joplin Missouri back or Branson Missouri back when several tornados blew into town and left a huge path of destruction?
Obama came to Joplin, offered aide. Said the Government was here to help, but what he failed to say was it is going to be the State Government and No help from federal disaster aide was coming Governor Nixon found out the hard way even with he and Claire Middleclasskill hardcore democrats, Sucking on Obama’s ass the whole 10 minutes he was in Joplin.
We did not vote for him in 2008 and we voted to kill the obamcare bill by 78%.
So Obama being his normal petty postulant child self, said fuck you Missouri after his photo op.
The rest of fly over country, those states where whole towns were wiped out as well. Obama didn’t even bother to mention them go to them, nor would he allow FEMA or any other government agencies to help.
This man and his administration will totally and completely fuck all States who opt out of obamacare.
If he isn’t re-elected watch for some complicated executive orders being put into place during his lame duck session from his loss in Nov till he actually has to leave the White House in Jan.
He won’t walk away from this; He won’t make it easy for Romeny to just repeal this.
Those Hundreds of lawyers he is hiring for his election campaign only spell trouble.
Why would a sitting president need hundreds of lawyers for a election campaign if he didn’t have a horrific plan of attack on our Constitution, On Voting rights?
What scares me the most is he figuring out a way to keep himself in office even if we vote him out.
That is what those lawyers are for.
This will be his President for life attack.
Like Rush and others have said.
Obama is not going to leave the White House easily.
He is going to have to be removed forcibly
The lawyers are there to invalidate our votes.
Just watch and see, With the Supreme Court on his side thanks to Roberts.
WE ARE TOTALLY FUCKED.
Noah, Obama is a wimp!!!! The sissy boy is also a dope head and a bum! We should be embarrassed we ever placed him in the White House. The rest of the world is laughing at us so much til it will take a long time for us to regain any semblance of respect.
However, I am not giving up on the sleeping giant! The TEA Party is quiet, but will NOT be defeated by Hussein!
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