A longtime D.C. political operative gives us a quick rundown on a new Ohio poll that on the surface would appear to favor Barack Obama. Not so fast says Insider – this poll is apparently GREAT news for Mitt Romney and has the Obama team growing increasingly concerned. Here’s why.
Insider: Go look up the latest Public Policy poll. It’s on Ohio. Obama has to have Ohio. Critical. Biden has been sent out there about four times this past week alone. Romney has just started the ad blitz in that state so this poll won’t even reflect that push. I am going to use this poll to show how we read this stuff. How somebody like me, really pulls the facts from the bullshit of those polls. Their side is doing this. Our side is doing this. They put out a headline, we ignore that headline. We know the facts. And they know we know the facts. From there the messaging is formed. If we don’t like the perception we spend millions changing that perception. They are doing the same thing. Difference is, they don’t have me.
So back to the PPP data. Now Public Policy is left leaning. Keep that in mind. And that poll comes out right after the DNC. That was no accident. It’s an attempt to form the perception I just told you about. Try and counter the internal data. There’s the kicker here. Obama spent money in Ohio. They ran at least three internals over the last few weeks that I know of. Each time they came back showing Ohio leaning for Romney. Tight but leaning. And that’s after the Obama campaign has spent a ton of money there. And the unions working double time to help out Obama as well. Obama’s #s are stuck in Ohio. They won’t budge. Romney’s #s keep creeping up. So the campaign is sh-tting itself trying to figure out what to do. Like I said, Obama has to have Ohio. And Oh isn’t the state that jumped over to Romney I told you about before. That state is looking to be wrapped up for Romney. An early night earthquake on Election Night. Ohio is a major front for the campaign war. Romney has Obama spending big $$$$ that they didn’t think they would have to. And while Obama’s donations are leveling off or dropping off, Romney’s donations keep pouring in.
So the PPP headline for Ohio is this:
Obama’s lead up to 5 in Ohio
I get the poll sent my way. I laugh it off. You see, I also seen the Obama internals from two weeks ago. I didn’t get my hands on the last one, but I got the last two before that one and I heard they weren’t happy about that last one and all three of those internals came back badly for Obama. Sure as hell no 5 point lead. No way. So the PPP is an attempt to change reality. Shift perception so that revision becomes the new reality. Hope I’m making sense to you here. You asked how this stuff works so that’s what I’m trying to give you.
So the Obama team has three bad news internals in Ohio right? What they need then is a public poll to come out favorably for them to shift that reality. Make people think Obama is doing better than he is, and people want to be part of the winning team. That is a fundamental part of politics. There are groups of voters who will vote for the candidate they think is going to win. That may sound crazy, dumb, whatever, but that’s a certain segment of voters. They aren’t bright. They just want to be on the winning team. In a close election, that segment can be the difference between winning and losing for a campaign. So they are panicked about the internals in Ohio and push for the PPP data to come out right after the DNC. Get a positive headline. Change the perception which can then change the reality. Obama up by 5 in Ohio.
But we take that headline and we call the bluff. Rip into the data. Cross reference it. And now we got them by the nuts.
You see, that PP poll was taken from a +4 Democrat sample. Right there the poll is hurting credibility wise. But dig a little deeper. That poll was also +9 for women sampled. That’s a huge gap for Ohio. +9 women polled over men? Cross check that data. You realize in Ohio women make up 51.2% of the population. This PP poll tries to alter that # so that it reflects women make up nearly 60% of Ohio population. Which is way off and totally breaks apart the poll’s credibility. Why would they do that? Because Obama is polling better with women and Romney is polling better for men. So cook the poll right off with a nearly 10 point advantage of women polled. That alone would give Obama another 3-4% advantage in the final approval #s. So you got a +4 Democrat sample. And a heavily lopsided women sample that together accounts for about +8 favoring Barack Obama. So compare that to the headline they used for the poll:
Obama up by 5 in Ohio.
In a polling sample that favored Barack Obama by nearly 10 points, the best he can do is a 5 point advantage. Bluff called. We send back a revised interpretation of the poll with a “Greetings from Ohio” postcard attached.
But there’s more bad news for Obama with this PPP data. In the poll 5% of voters indicated they were still undecided. Pretty big # this late in the game in a state that has been hammered by advertising and political appearances from both campaigns but especially the Obama team. Those undecideds know Barack Obama. If they liked him they would already be indicating plans to vote for him. Campaign 101 is that the undecideds break AWAY from the incumbent and FOR the challenger by about 2 to 1. So with that in mind, there’s another 2 or even 3 point advantage for Romney in Ohio with just the undecideds alone.
You want to know the headline Obama’s own internals are giving them in Ohio? Want to know what the headline would read if it was published by a non-partisan slant?
Romney holds 3 point advantage in Ohio.
Now ad another couple points advantage for the undecideds and the Election Night headline for Ohio is looking like this:
Romney wins Ohio by 5.
We got a long ways to go before we get that headline though. But for now, the reality and not the perception that is being attempted by the media, is looking much better for Romney than it is for Obama.
The debates are going to be huge for us. Both sides know the debates may be the difference on Election Night. And so does the media. And that has me very concerned. The pro Obama spin is going to be huge.
Still want to make time for a sit down. Soon.
-INSIDER
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Love how Insider explains this. Still worried about these polls though. And Romney better bring it in the debates.
I fear Obama will have the questions before the debates.
New Mexico looks to be moving out of the “blue” column too:
http://bit.ly/RxNp4M
Thanks WHI, we need good news every now and then. This is GOOD news!
The way I see it its also a double whammy that assists in envigorating Romney leaners as they get nervous over incomprehensible polls!! However, I find it despicable that yet again the media coverage is about Romney losing in the polls and NOT about the disastrous jobs report from Friday and the $16 Trillion debt. Remember those jobs numbers are REAL people’s lives the true Obama arrogance to get his media apparatchicks to continue the debacle and the others fall for it hook, line and sinker. These media people are going to pay a steep price and their complict behavior has not only been a failure to scrutinize but a full COVER-UP.
The would-be dictator has a full assist from the media and I look forward to their destruction come November 6th also.
BTW: the charade of the pizza man hug and no SS coming to the jerk’s side was a clear inidcation of another sham, however if O’s numbers were so good why is the pizza moron pleading to stop the boycott??? HaHa…joke’s on you, pal!!
I found this article to be interesting on the fight between the DOJ and Gallup polling by Dick Morris. Thought some on this site may enjoy what Dick Morris said.
http://www.dickmorris.com/obama-thugs-rough-up-gallup-for-polls-they-dont-like/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports
Could one EVER trust a Gallup poll after this? EVER? The Obama admin has totally screwed them and their brand.
It seems that no one is believing the polls in any state. I’m in Illinois and you’d think Obama would just be loved here, but other than Chicago and the known Democratic bastions, EVERYONE here seems to hate Obama which is fine with me. All my neighbors voted for Obama despite my pleas to them about how totally unqualified he is and now they are all voting Romney–and these are hard-core Democrats. They haven’t been able to look at me in the face for about 2 years but they have all made it clear that they won’t be voting for him again. They may not vote for Romney, but they won’t give Obama their vote either.
Thanks…these polls must be challenged…Axelrod Obama need the fraudulent polls in order to steal votes and the election…Challenge away…
Surprisingly I heard someone (Carl Cameron?) explaining the polls and how they are conducted last night and saying basically to take all polls with a grain of salt. Problem is, Fox is pretty much “preachin to the choir”. But at least they did it.
Those hard-core Democrats who will not vote for Obama and the hard-core Republicans who won’t vote for Romney may up voting for Ron Paul. If that happens, I believe that there will be more Democrats than Republicans who vote Ron Paul — which reminds me of a WHI interview.
Be prepared for the corrupt media in the debates making gay “marriage” a big deal, and repeatedly asking Romney about his record on it as Guv of Massachusetts. Because Romney was very pro gay “marriage”. How will conservatives react to that? Will they be able to look the other way?
I think “Obama” coming out for it may have been a long term setup.
I suspect that the gay marriage issue, if it is pushed will be a winner for Romney/Ryan. There are more conservative voters in the population – both Democrat and Republic, as well as Independent – who do not support gay marriage. The minority who are in favour are already stitched up, so there is nothing to gain.
Agreed. Even in California they could not have a majority of the population voting for gay marriage.
My best response to people attacking me on this issue, is that marriage is not a right but a sacrement. And that the Bible is very clear on who can receive this sacrement. Marriage is not a god-given right it is a church given sacrement.
Ask me for civil union, and we might agree…
How can anyone vote for someone you has made so much debt. We are worst off and he has no plan to make things better.
As the WHI said, “…but that’s a certain segment of voters. They aren’t bright. They just want to be on the winning team.”
Unfortunately, this is true and that’s why the Media is so powerful. I have a question for those that voted for Obama the first time around. Can you explain why you voted for him? I know why, but I want to know if you do. It was the power of movies, TV shows, documentaries, music, award shows, news, etc. You were hypnotized, in a way. People want to feel accepted and they associated themselves with the actors in the shows they love watching. They want to be on the winning team so they’ll vote, without thinking, for whomever Brad Pitt is voting for.
When people watch TV shows and movies, your brain wants to relax and shuts off that analytical part that you’ve used all day. People just want to kick back, relax and take it all in, especially if you have one of those big screen TVs. Decade after decade, people became brainwashed; so much so, that they even refuse to hear the warnings about Obama. That happened to a lot of people in 2008.
I drove 700 miles up the eastern seaboard this last weekend, through heavily democratic country. I managed to see 2 vehicles that were proud O supporters. People aren’t buying this crap anymore.
“That state is looking to be wrapped up for Romney. An early night earthquake on Election Night.”
Pencil-vania.
UM, would like you to ask WHI about the Hawaii mansion Penny Pritzker is supposedly trying to arrange for the Obamas for a January 2013 move-in. Something about them knowing they’re going to lose.
Thanks WHI for the update. Huge news. I still believe deep down that this election won’t be close. Romney wins by at least 4-5 points. Wisconsin and the Chik-Fil-A show-out tells me a silent wave is coming. And I don’t think the debates will matter much unless there’s some extraordinary gaffe from either side. Please pouring all your knowledge into the Romney camp. We gotta win this any which way. Gloves are definitely off, brass knuckles on.
Yes. It is clearer than ever now that PA was the state WHI was talking about previously.
This must be why Romney’s camp is putting up no ads in PA post-convention. On the other hand, my guess is that Michigan is firmly in the Obama side of the ledger after the bailout. But maybe not. Romney’s side is not spending money for ads there, either.
my guess is that Michigan is firmly on Obama’s side after the auto bailout
I still think Michigan is a toss-up.
Wisconsin is ours, though. Book it.
Michigan is closer than the polls would lead you to believe. It’s not “firm” Obama.
Seeing a lot of excitement for Romney. For every Obama bumper sticker, I see a Romney sticker. (It’s Metro Detroit, so it’s a given that some people are just commies!)
Even if MI still goes for Obama, it will be closer than it was last time and Obama will have to dump resources to keep it. (From experience, I’ve learned just not to get my hopes up for the Republican in a state-wide race). And, I’m willing to pay that price if that means OH/VA or another state goes for Romney because Obama doesn’t have enough cash to play there.
The math for Michigan on election night that Mitt has to win 2 out of the 3 counties around Detroit to win the state. So, watch where the numbers are falling for Macomb/Oakland/Wayne County. Wayne has Detroit, so that’s always the long shot, but still….a lot of suburbs will vote for Romney. Macomb is classic Reagan Democrat and Oakland is more swing these days. 2 out 3 is what Mitt needs. It doesn’t have to be pretty, but it has to be done.
You have pockets of blue in other areas (Flint/Saginaw/Kalamazoo), but Metro Detroit is where this election is won/lost – just like all statewide races are.
The media keeps pushing the Obama version as if it’s gospel, but when you know people who lost their investments and retirement and car dealerships – the Obama version is hard to swallow.
Michiganders were just as divided as the other Americans on the bailout/loans.
That’s why Obama isn’t a slam-dunk here. It’s not a badge of honor for people to work at “Government Motors” anymore. We saw how the white-collar people got treated. We saw how the unions got treated. Obama keeps dividing people and then he wonders why MI isn’t a slam-dunk. It mattered what if you were part of the “old” or “new” GM. What part of the supply chain your business helped out. If you were willing to go along with the new dealership rules……
Oh yes, Michiganders are deeply divided over the autos because it happened to us and our neighbors!
We are motivated to vote for Romney. The question is will we be able to get enough people to cross-over and actually cast the ballot for Mitt.
Thankfully, most of the Obama voters I know live out of state. However, I have noticed that they really aren’t saying much these days on facebook about their BFF, St. Obama unless it has to do w/abortion or gay people.
Those really aren’t issues that persuade people to vote for them. Let’s have more abortions….well, ah, no. Let’s celebrate being gay….well, ah, no thanks. I’m not gay and I don’t care if you are or aren’t. So, they aren’t even talking about the Obama economy, unless it’s to say that “Mitt wants to cut taxes” (as if that’s a bad thing!)
Praying for all of us in these times.
There are quite a few who still have good memories of Romney’s father, the former gov. I hear, also the 2016 movie had made quite a stir among people up there. Something about seeing it on the screen makes it all too real in a way a book or news report cannot. I’m thinking Michigan will go Romney.
BTW, did you see the article re: Nestle bottling and selling Lake Michigan to the Chicoms? People up there are having a fit. With the drought, the sport fishing is at risk because of the drawdown. Seems the Obamatrogledites found a loophole in Bush 43′s legislation to protect the Great Lakes. Instead of being a natural resource, the obamacrats reclassified the GLs as a commodity to be bought and sold. I understand Nestle is making a 240% profit on the deal. I think they are in Chicago. So, another dirty deal originates in the place that gave us the curse of Obama.
Pennsylvania was my guess. Glad to get confirmation. Thanks WHI.
Dear USA,
I had the same “flash” about Pennsylvania being the election night earthquake. I also concur about the Chik-Fil-A turnout. The false poll reporting that is rampant is part of a psy-op to make the election appear closer than it really is, which will cover the election night counting fraud that I’m sure is in the works.
It is a shame we have had a couple of “Mexican” elections (2000, 2004) and that there is so much disinformation floating around this time, not to mention the media non-coverage of the real issues. Hopefully, a Romney blowout will make all of the above irrelevant.
I’m stunned about PA. That’s your indicator most if not all the so-called swing states are Mitt’s. We have FL, NC, VA locked up (I don’t care what anyone says) so when PA goes, see OH, WI and maybe even MI go Mitt, too. The sentiment is overflowing from one state to the next.
I’m getting compliments on my Romney bumper stickers by random, everyday people lately. And this area is not comprised of political animals in daily rapt attention to politics by any stretch whatsoever. It was exactly these kinds of ordinary people that spontaneously made Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day happen. No one organized that. No one told them. They responded to what was already percolating deep inside themselves, a rage to repudiate what has happened to the country. Now apply that model to the entire country. That’s what Election Day will be like.
I’m ignoring every poll except for what WHI reports and every news outlet except for Rush, Levin, and UM. There’s no sense in psyching ourselves out with the constant abuse coming at us through mainstream reportage. Ignore it all.
This election rests within the hearts of every voter. It’s not about numbers or issues. This is an up or down vote for America; whether or not we care to have an America anymore. This is something we all feel deep down. It’s far beyond politics.
My concern is that they are manipulating these polls so that they can get away with voter fraud. Because the only way they can get away with it is if the polls show Obama winning.
“Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything.” — Joseph Stalin
What I’m REALLY concerned about is this: http://www.dailypaul.com/228915/spanish-company-owned-by-geo-soros-will-count-americas-votes-overseas-in-november
Remember, this is an administration which has vowed to win a second term “by any means necessary.”
Michelle took this on – giving facts and fiction a few months ago…..
http://michellemalkin.com/2012/05/09/scytl-voter-fraud-facts-and-fiction/
Thanks for this. Very informative.
JAN RICHARDS (comment on other thread)if you’re out there — Re your concern about the polls – hope you’re reading all of these. See the manipulation? Rush was going on and on this morning saying the same kind of thing. We’re getting a lot of exposure of the deceit of the polling outfits that we didn’t know or even cared much about before. More good signs.
WHI – “Difference is, they don’t have me.” LOL Yes,indeed – thanks !!!!!
Yes, T&J. I am reading this post and replies and feeling more hopeful! Thanks. I’m sure that my weekend “down” was shared by others, so this post does wonders for our confidence! How nice of you to remember me though.
You know, Is there some way that a well-respected body (maybe FOX) could list each polling result (like Real Clear Politics) does–but include what people don’t see for each one. How many D and R were polled? How many women/men? If people could see this all in one place, the spin would be obvious. The one putting this together could then include a powerful conclusion that puts it all together for us.
“That is a fundamental part of politics. There are groups of voters who will vote for the candidate they think is going to win. That may sound crazy, dumb, whatever, but that’s a certain segment of voters. They aren’t bright. They just want to be on the winning team.”
Which is why spectator sports are pushed so aggressively. Keep people irrationally loyal to one team or the other… it doesn’t matter which one. Because as long as people keep watching, both sides profit. Same as in politics.
Combine the quote above, ” Make people think Obama is doing better than he is, and people want to be part of the winning team.” with the theory that people on welfare and entitlements will continue to vote themselves money . . . and there’s some cause for real concern.
The Great and Unthinking Unwashed are worrisome.
Ohio needs to also get rid of Sen. Sherrod Brown, Congresspersons Marcy Kaptur (vote for Joe “the Plumber” Samuel J. Wurzelbacher), and Betty Sutton for starters, (thank goodness for re-districting, we finally got rid of Dennis “the Menace” Kucinich”)!.
Ohio’s rural populations, who typically vote GOP need to come out in droves to overshadow the Dems in urban areas (ie Cleveland which is over run by corrupt Dems).
the earthquake will be in the mining towns in OH, PA and Virginia. There is a definite movement against Obama within the mining sector. These are people who have been solid Democrat all of their lives…. and yet there is a change in the wind.
@ Aussie,
Yes, I would expect that there is a definite movement against Obummer within the mining sector. These folks may have been Democrats all their lives, but since the won is shutting down their livelihoods, the coalmines, there will be a large number of people losing their jobs. In this terrible economy, there aren’t many decent jobs available, and they will likely join the thousands of others that may not be able to make it, and will have to go on welfare, (and thus be expected to vote Democrat.)
I attribute much of this to being a deliberate effort to inflict as much pain as possible on the country, in addition to allowing akaObama to blow as much money as he can on his pet projects, solar and windmills – neither of which is “ready for prime time”. Since he has drastically curtailed drilling for oil, what will we do without coal or enough oil? But I suppose this so called “alternative energy” has one thing going for it, it supports many of O’s cronys with millions in taxpayer dollars…so along with the windmills…it kills (at least) two birds with one stone.
Yes, even though we know they are manipulated – how many others know that? Plus what are the numbers of the “dummies”? No doubt will be a very worrisome thing, along with other worrisome things until this is over with. However, it does help to get this out anyway & another evil tactic being exposed is always a good thing.
To change the subject slightly, I have a hypothesis about the Chicago striking teachers.
What if its all staged by Rahm? Say the strike lingers on for a week or two. Starts to become a huge story in the national media. Then Obama comes in and gets all the parties together in a well crafted event. A deal gets done thats said by the MSM to be “fair to all sides”. Obama comes out the hero to the unions and is labeled a leader for “ending the strike”. Gets to be in front of the cameras to say “education for our children is the most important thing”. Its sorta like the Reagan and air traffic contollers scenario, but in reverse.
Interesting theory. We shall see shortly…
Well then everyone let this scenario go viral on the internet like the false flag event that was supposed to happen at the RNC. I will send off several tweets and everyone else should too
Just saw some tweets on this exact scenario being set up, so Obama comes out like the hero.
BTW, why is the teacher’s union wearing red?
And meanwhile, look at the statistics of the Chicago students– most can’t read on grade level or do math.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/figures-chicago-teachers-union-president-linked-to-former-communist-party-chief-and-barack-obama/
More Hope and Change…
Mike Klonsky, an Obama supporter and former associate of the radicals who formed the terrorist group the Weatherman, received a $175,000 grant from the William Ayers/Barack Obama-led Annenberg Challenge to run the Small Schools Workshop.
So it should come as no surprise that Mike Klonsky, the former Communist Party leader, is a huge supporter of Karen Lewis, head of the Chicago Teachers’ Union. Chicago teachers went on strike today for the first time in 25 years despite the fact that the average teacher salary in Chicago is $74,839 a year.
If Obama loses both PA and OH — and it is clear now that WHI is and was talking about PA as the mystery ‘great internal polls state’ before — then he has almost no chance of winning this election.
This is the best news I have heard in a long time, these poll data.
What WHI is talking about as regards ‘people want to be on the winning side’ is known as the Bandwagon Effect. People want to be with the winner. This is like a sports fan switching allegiances from their own team to a team that wins a lot. This is a common occurrence.
And since people are susceptible to the Bandwagon Effect, then what the media tries to do in order to help a cause or candidate is to try to make that issue or candidate seem the ‘winning’ one. This is to start the Bandwagon Effect in the masses, and to depress the response and enthusiasm of those who are on the supposed ‘losing’ side.
It could still work. That is why WHI is worried about the spin coming out of the debates. The media will work to make it appear as though Obama routed Romney in the debates, regardless of how the debates go. This is to try to make Obama look like the winner and help the Bandwagon Effect for him. It’s a ruse, a con game. Like Rush was talking about with the polls. All of this is the same technique applied to different matters (polling, post-debate spin, etc).
And this would be why the Obama camp would possibly try to intimidate Gallup. That polling outfit is very influential, so if they can be made to heel, that further helps the Obama camp push its false narrative so that it can try to generate a Bandwagon Effect that, as WHI says, tries to make a false perception into reality.
The good thing in all of this is that, so far, these methods don’t seem to be working. But they could still work, and the masses could still shift to Obama or they could be depressed and stay home on Election Night, thinking that they are on the ‘losing’ side of Romney.
This is all the art of public relations. It’s good to see that WHI knows the art well and can sniff out a con game when he sees it. Romney has good help in WHI, I think.
I always answer “undecided” although I’m for Romney. I wanna mess with team Obama’s mind and let them HOPE like they let Americans hope and then squashed us under their policies.
On the subject of public perception, I am not buying the story that Obama beat Romney in fundraising in August. That seems like another scam job to me in order to make it seem to the public that Obama is ‘winning’ the campaign and that you should either stick with him or, if you are undecided, decide to join him.
More public perception trickery attempts.
The good news in all of this is that we are winning, even though the media and Obama’s camp is working feverishly to try to make it seem they are winning.
This is terrific news. Keep it up, WHI!
KABUKI !
Yes, Kabuki.
Yes, KaBS! Then (hopefully) Kaboom!
I didn’t believe the fundraising numbers either…but you know how Obama fudged the Obamacare numbers so I wouldn’t be surprised if they did a little “double counting” $114 million works out to 38 million $3.00 donations (remember FLOTUS & POTUS are fighting for scraps)…it DIDN’T HAPPEN
Here are some of the hurdles which remain before Election Day:
- The possible release of potentially stolen Romney tax records, similar to the hacked Palin emails in 2008 or the uncovered Jack Ryan divorce records in 2004
- The debates, which will be heavily spun (as WHI fears) as Obama wins
- A possible staged event or events to try to make conservatives and/or whites look bad to induce White Guilt and/or suppress the white vote
There is still a long, long way to go and a lot to do.
As I feared, the absurd alteration in the Gallup data (post-DOJ lawsuit announcement against Gallup) for the last week or so is being spun as an Obama convention bounce. Again, this is to make Obama seem to be ‘winning,’ which is to try to generate a Bandwagon Effect for him so the masses jump on his side. Another con game.
What is great is that even with so much effort to spin a false reality, Romney appears set in PA and up in OH. That is a great sign, and comes before the effects of Romney’s carpet bombing ad campaign. This is incredibly good news.
Still, I am very concerned about the possible release of Mitt’s tax records (though I am growing more skeptical that they were stolen; this might just be a lie intended to make Romney’s camp nervous now from a desperate Obama camp). I think we all already knew that the debates will be falsely spun. Like how Biden was said to have beaten Palin in their debate when Palin kick Joe’s behind. This is typical media hackery.
That leaves a possible staged event or events. Just have to keep our eyes open on this, as WHI did on the Biden to Tampa story.
We are in a great spot right now. Just keep talking to your friends, posting good links on your social networking sites and volunteering to help Romney. We are winning right now, and can finally be rid of this anti-American Marxism in around 60 days if we stay focused. Let’s roll.
Someone posted a note on here the other day about another site, a site I have talked about previously here. Let me just say this: That site will be of no help between now and Election Day. So, I would not worry about what that site is saying. We have to stay focused on the task at hand, and that site, I think, is meaningless for what needs to happen between now and Election Day.
We have the Communists on the run now. This is the best news I have heard in a long, long time. But nothing is won yet, so we have to keep our noses to the grindstone and get this done. For America, and for our children and grandchildren, as well as for ourselves. This is our moment.
Larry Flint offered $1 million for Romney’s tax records…if they WERE stolen they would have already had a buyer and wouldn’t be “shopping” around~~
You’re right. The asking blackmail price for Romney’s tax returns was $1 million. If they had stolen them they would have upped the price with a bidding war between the Romney camp and other interested parties.And of course Soros would pay the bounty price too …
THEY CHEATED IN 2008 AND WON! THEY WILL CHEAT IN 2012 AND WIN AGAIN
IF WE DON’T STOP THEM –ONLY 55 DAYS LEFT TO D-DAY
If an honest election were held today Obama would lose. The debacle of how Obama stole the nomination from Hillary in 2007 combined with the actions of acorn registering Cinderella, thousands of dead people, and strange vote counting shocked America and destroyed the myth it could never happen in America. Today Americans are facing an even more serious threat to an honest 2012 election. The votes are being counted in Spain by a company owned by George Soros.
Some eternal hopefuls still believe in spite of all that, this will be an honest election. Ha!
As for the debates: I think that if Newt would help Mitt with a ‘stick to the facts and issues’ prep, he may be able to expose the pro-Barry media, if not for their bias, but for avoiding the real issues. This election is NOT about gay marriage, abortion or birth control. This is not about the war on women posed by the Dems. It is about taxes, deficit spending, and unemployment. This IS the war on Big Government. Period.
To Ulsterman,,,Thank You for bringing us WHI…
To WHI,,,,You NEVER disappoint!!!
I don’t pay any attention to polls for the reasons WHI listed plus more. For another thing, polling 1100-1500 people out of millions is extremely lopsided. Another is the locality of the polling. Obama could easily get a lot more votes in Cincinnati then he would in, say, Bryan, OH. So, I don’t listen to Pollsters; I pay attention to what the Candidates are saying and what they are doing.
PPP is one of the few pollsters I regard as reliable–with a catch. When they don’t have a stake in it, they’re right on the money. When they’re cheering for one of the sides in an election, they badly bias their polls towards that side.
A few things to be pointed out about this poll, however:
First off, Obama’s lead in the PPP Ohio poll is only two percentage points (within the margin of error) higher than in its last two polls, in late June and early August. He’s actually down two points from his lead in PPP’s poll of the state in early May. Trying to portray this poll as evidence of momentum for Obama is nonsense.
Moreover, PPP also released a poll of North Carolina on the same day. Obama gets a one-point bump in that poll–and PPP’s North Carolina polls have been hovering around that point for over a year now, while other pollsters have shown a consistent Romney lead.
They do a lot of polling for the Daily Kos. Their polling is highly suspect. If they will tilt it for one side for a few bucks they will do it for whomever shakes a dollar bill at them. This makes them propagandists. They also do heavily tilted polls as outliers to bring up the worthless RCP aggregate poll results that include old polls and insane outliers for the Obamedia to use. PPP is part of the problem.
Too early…
Work to defeat Obama as if the elections are tomorrow.
Our destiny depends on the outcome.
This is not kibitzer time…
Also remember — ALL polls consist of how many people? A few thousand AT MOST.
The voting population consists of how many people? Almost a couple hundred MILLION.
All will be well.
As I’ve stated before, don’t think any of these old tactics that have been successful in the past will be this time but of course we have to work assuming they will. Re the debates, let’s put it this way – I wouldn’t be surprised they don’t have them. That’s one of Romney’s greater abilities and I have no worries about him “winning”. Unless Axelrod, Jarrett, etc. don’t realize that, I would think they’d try to come up with something where he would be unable to do them (no fault of his own of course). They usually run & hide when they know they’ll be shown up or too difficult to wiggle out of…like DiFi running from her interview & refusing to answer reporters period….that’s also what Elizabeth Warren did when confronted about some of her ridiculous statements.
But the debates are a big deal – don’t know — I’m very curious to see what happens & for me, I hope they do have them b/c Romney would shine.
Maybe that could be the convenient time for their false flag event? Martial law, etc.? That will be getting very, very close to election time and “October” surprises. I’m hoping all their evil plans will crumble though & I think they will, but just don’t know when……
Interesting article worth reading re; polling..
http://hillbuzz.org/how-the-corrupt-media-deliberately-deceives-you-with-polling-in-order-to-help-obama-66033#more-44377
When I see these latest polls with Oblamo up by a few percent, I think, “That’s good, because if Oblamo and friends get too worried about the numbers, they might do something even more desperate and despicable!”
I apologize if someone has already said this and I missed it, but there’s a big polling item that’s being missed here. Anyone to the right of Liberals are terrified by being labeled a racist. I suspect strongly that there’s a certain percentage of people in every poll who lie about their vote and say that they’ll vote for Obama even though they won’t when they’re in the booth. They either sub-consciously or perhaps very consciously don’t want the possibility of the pollster thinking they’re racist.
The million dollar question question of course is what percentage does this group constitute. I can’t pretend to know but I’m willing to bet good money that it’s not south of 3%.
Taking into account the flaws WHI pointed out, I’ve used the crosstabs in the PPP poll to recompute the final results. Unfortunately, the results don’t look much better:
Correction for PPP’s oversampling of women changes practically nothing. Obama 49.6%, Romney 45.4%.
As far as party breakdown goes, if the turnout is identical to 2008, the results would be Obama 50.8%, Romney 43.8%. If the turnout is identical to 2010, the results would still be Obama 48.1%, Romney 47.6%.
If PPP’s crosstabs are to be trusted (I’m not so sure about that at this point), Republicans would need to exceed their 2010 turnout in order to win Ohio. That simply isn’t realistic.
You don’t think so? I think our turnout will exceed 2010. Now’s our opp. to toss Obama OUT.
http://hillbuzz.org/ground-report-pennsylvania-bucks-county-not-supporting-obama-again-43268
Ground Report Pennsylvania: Bucks County not supporting Obama again
“I saved the best part for last. When I stopped by the Democrats table, I was very polite and nice to the woman. I didn’t tell her I was voting for Romney nor did I say anything negative about any of the candidates she was representing. The Democratic candidate, Kathy Bookvar is running for US Congress against our incumbent Republican. The woman behind the table told me how nice Kathy is and then She lowered her voice and told me “if you don’t vote for ‘anyone’ else in our party vote for Kathy, she is nice” Anyone is a code word for Obama. I then said “oh yea I know what you mean” and she gave me an understanding look. I walked away from the table represented by the Democratic party of Northampton Township convinced she was not voting for Obama either. Also, they had no signs posted anywhere on the lawns. I asked her why the Republicans had signs all over and she did not and she also said she didn’t have any to post.
Mark my words, Bucks County will NOT be voting for Obama/Biden again.
A Reader in PA”
Rahm Emanuel suspends SuperPac fundraising: Why? Because of the school strike?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80988.html
Here is some more information about Ohio and Pennsylvania as regards recent presidential elections.
In the last 10 presidential elections, Ohio and Pennsylvania voted the same way 8 times (1972, 1976, 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2008).
The two times that the states voted differently (2000, 2004) in the presidential election, Pennsylvania went for the Democratic candidate and Ohio went for the Republican candidate.
So, the states seem to vote the same way nearly always. But when they do vote differently, Ohio has voted more conservatively than has Pennsylvania.
Obviously, given this information and given that it appears Romney is close to locking up Pennsylvania, that is a very good trend for Romney/Ryan.
However, the economy of Ohio seems to be doing slightly better than the national average. Also, Ohio voted to overturn the union law for that state in 2011. Both of those matters favor Obama.
Still, the historical data favors Romney as regards how Ohio may vote in 2012. That is a very good sign.
My understanding of Ohio is that it is, traditionally, a slightly more conservative state than Pennsylvania. This is because there is no “Pittsburgh” in Ohio, and particularly because there is no “Philadelphia” in Ohio.
The southern part of Ohio is very conservative, south of I-70. Which means the battle front for Romney/Ryan is north of I-70. That is where the election will be won or lost in Ohio.
The three most electoral vote rich states at play among swing states are Florida (29), Ohio (18) and North Carolina (15). I am leaving Pennsylvania (20) and Michigan (16) out of the discussion, because they may be almost out of play now.
The reason this could be important, these three swing states with a lot of electoral votes, is that IF a staged event is going to take place between now and the election, I would wager it would take place in one of these three states, to try to maximize the effect on the local voting populace.
We know about the Trayvon Martin case in Florida. Could something emerge on that front in the next two months?
If I had to guess for one place to speculate about a possible staged event taking place, I would guess it might take place in Ohio. I could see it happening in either Florida or Ohio, but I would lean towards Ohio. So, we have to stay vigilant for any signs of such possible activity in all of these swing states, and everywhere else.
Less than 60 days left to save the USA.