A rare and unexpected phone interview with a longtime D.C. political operative suggests that while momentum has shifted slightly toward Barack Obama over the last few days, Mitt Romney remains the likely winner of next week’s election – so long as the Obama team is not successful in their attempts to steal it.
UM: Did you read the latest update from -deleted- ? (WSI)
WHI: Yeah-yeah. Whatever. He don’t know…all due respect. He don’t know sh-t about how this stuff works. He didn’t even vote. Ever. This gonna be his first time voting, right? That’s what he said.
UM: Correct. But what about what he said? You have anything to say on that?
WHI: No. What he said was…it doesn’t really concern me. Don’t care what they think in Chicago now. Don’t care what that b-tch Jarrett is thinking. She don’t know about this stuff either. She has been wrong way more than right. She’s just…if she said that stuff…hell to pay, whatever it was. Hell, that could have been a leakdown test. See who was talking. Where the air’s comin’ out. That dumb f-ck might have just compromised our source by telling you to publish. And you should have asked me about it before you did. Not blaming you here…you’re just following his lead. But it wasn’t smart.
UM: How about the numbers? We going to lose this thing next week?
WHI: The vote? Maybe. Not likely. But maybe. There’s always maybe. These sneaky f-cks know how to pad the numbers. We been running the absentee scam for a long time now. Sure they got that ready to go.
UM: Absentee scam? What is that?
WHI: Oh…hell…just..you get enough people to go out and get an absentee ballot, then have them show up at the polls too. Simple. I’ve got a feeling all this early voting push…its tied into that. On a bigger scale than I’ve seen. Back in 92…we took at least four counties that way. Big counties. Most of it gets flagged…but you still get about 10 or sometimes 20% of those through.
UM: You cheated.
WHI: You askin?’
UM: No, I’m saying. Seems clear enough. You cheated. You stole votes.
WHI: Sh-t son…we all did. Both sides. Here and there…yeah. It’s part of it. But…these Obama boys…they took it to a whole other level. Votes, donations…deals…it’s a lot more Putin than it is Clinton. Pay to play…Big Labor…this country never seen it at this level. And it shouldn’t have to, but they got the Senate. Had it locked up. Another firewall for all of them. Everything…every investigation, everything…it died in the Senate. Obama didn’t even have to get involved.
UM: So there are no clean elections?
WHI: Not in my experience son. Not even close. I will say this though…Romney…the Romney campaign. They are about as clean as I’ve seen. And I ain’t sayin’ that just because…you know. It’s the truth. Which is a good thing in a way…but in another way…it worries me. Got an ulcer the size of my fist, swear to God…I’d feel better if they played a little more dirty on that end of things. Just for some peace of mind. It’s usually not the candidate who is the campaign crook. It’s…it’s the rest of us. We do the down n dirty, right? But Romney…he’s made it clear the campaign isn’t to go there.
UM: Isn’t that something to be respected?
WHI: Sure…respect. But…that don’t mean…a politician don’t win with respect. That’s what the Old Man don’t understand. He should know…he was a mean son-of-a-bitch…you don’t know that part of him. 20 odd years ago…sh*t, he walked it, man. Now…he’s so damn polite! Trying to buy his way in I suppose…can’t blame him for that. But he knows better – this political stuff…that update he sent you…he don’t know nothin’ about how this all works. A campaign. The internals. The messaging. Buying up the good air time before they do. The leaks. The promises. You got to give to get in this work…and let me tell you – it IS work.
UM: You sounded dejected yesterday.
WHI: No – I wasn’t de…dejected. I was PISSED. Big difference son.
UM: Benghazi and the storm, right?
WHI: No…I mean, that’s all…the Benghazi thing…it’s the real deal. I’m talking criminal here. At least administratively. It’s a cover-up. And they know it. Obama, some of them on the Hill…they know it. They have to. All the signs…it’s being buried right now…under that f-cking storm. But that’s not what’s got me so pissed there now…it’s bastards who promise something and then don’t deliver. That sh-t drives me f-cking nuts. I just don’t…how people go and do that…not when the stakes are this high. We’re all bastards…but we love our country, right? That’s where we draw the f-cking line, right?
(Pause)
But apparently not.
UM: Who broke their promise? I assume they were going to do something on Benghazi.
WHI: Hell yes they were…four of them. Three Rs…one D…well…a sorta D. They would be doing a press conference right about now. They promised. Told House leadership they were gonna do it.
UM: Were they House or Senate?
(No answer)
UM: Were they House or Senate?
WHI: The main one…Mr. TV…they were Senate. All four. Senators. And f-cking liars. But…
UM: What?
WHI: Sh-t…why not. He told you to publish…so I’m gonna do the same. He want’s to play that way…fine.
UM: What?
WHI: You notice….you been happy with how the Old Man has been on this Benghazi thing? The level of support? Because I sure as hell ain’t.
UM: He seems very determined to defeat Barack Obama.
WHI: Not what I asked. I’m talking Benghazi here. DIRECTLY. Forget the campaign. Think about it. All I’m sayin’. Think about it. Maybe there could have been a bit more pressure applied to certain media sources? But…just seems a little less than it deserves from him, right?
UM: I’m not comfortable…I’m very grateful for his help. You said you were too. Many times.
WHI: Sure…but like they say…that was then…this is now. I’m just sayin’ you should ask yourself…step back and ask yourself if the help has really been there on this. What was in those containers? The warehouse? All that weaponry…that represents a work order, right? Shipment? Contracts. MONEY. It’s got me thinking. A little bit. Just wondering. He’s a big boy…he can’t mind me doin’ just a little wondering on this.
UM: I’m not going to consider that. He’s an honorable man. He’s given everything he has to help with this.
WHI: Everything? C’mon now…no way you really believe that one. Everything…sh-t…not even close. He’s done us a hell of a lot of good…I ain’t sayin’ he hasn’t done that…but this Benghazi thing…somethin’ ain’t right here. How those Senators…they just shut it down. Used the storm as an excuse. Not a whole lot of people knew about the press conference.
But the Old Man did…
UM: How about you…just focus on the polls. You have any internals that might suggest the race still remains Romney’s to lose?
WHI: Changing the subject?
UM: Yes. Please.
(Long Pause)
WHI: Alright then…sure. Internals huh?
UM: You said before…you said Obama only had 7 states locked up. That was it.
WHI: Yes I did…I’d put that number about about 8 now. He’s gained a little ground. Just a bit.
UM: You also said Romney landslide.
WHI: Sure…and I’ll keep on that…if they don’t steal it. Remember, I also told you the only way they win this thing is if they steal it…and that does have me very concerned.
UM: The same kind of stealing you used to do.
WHI: Sure…you wanna put it that way…sure. I did what I was told. I did what needed to be done…so yeah…but we never did it like these Obama
UM: (Interrupts)…right- got it. The Obama campaign is a lot worse than anything you were involved in. Does that include 2008?
WHI: What?
UM: 2008 – you helped them win in 2008. Did you cheat?
WHI: I did what I was told.
UM: Cheat?
WHI: Yeah – we all did.
UM: And now?
WHI: For the first time…I’m doing what is right. You know that.
UM: Do I?
WHI: If you don’t – just walk away now. Call it good. No hard feelings.
UM: What happens right after the election? If Obama loses?
WHI: Riots.
UM: And if Obama wins?
WHI: Riots.
UM: So why does it matter?
WHI: Because one will be temporary…the other…if Obama wins…it all becomes permanent. The country is done – at least as anything we will recognize. And I ain’t gonna see that happen without a fight. And frankly…I say we win this thing next week. And you should be a part of that. Don’t…I told you to walk away. I don’t mean that…you need to see this thing through. We all do.
UM: Including the Old Man?
WHI: Sure…but if he was behind any of this Benghazi shut down…him and me…we are done. I’ll tell you that. No more. You with me there?
UM: (Pause)…I suppose I would be.
WHI: Whatever…he ain’t long for this world. Not to be insensitive…but we all know that’s the deal there. And whatever he did or didn’t do…that will be between him and Jesus.
UM: He’s Jewish.
WHI: (Laughs) Oh…(inaudible) …that one up. (Laughs)
Look…we are all feeling the pressure now. But thing is…as pissed as I was yesterday…I still say the voters are gonna do right by all of us next week. And I ain’t never been wrong on that. Never.
And then…and then you go write that book and put my ugly mug on the cover.
UM: You are pretty hideous. Don’t think that would help with sales any.
WHI: Normally I’d tell you to f-ck off…but…can’t argue facts. God done hit me up hard with the ugly stick.
(Pause) …You hold tight now. Take care. The governor…he’s got this. I may be a cheater…but I ain’t a liar. The governor…Governor Romney, is gonna win this thing. Next week…just hang on.
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RELATED: WALL STREET INSIDER’S UPDATE FROM EARLIER TODAY:
Valerie Jarret – “After We Win This Election, It’s Our Turn. Payback Time.”
A cheater IS a liar. Okay, Insider. Good for you, you’ve found a line you won’t cross. Twice. Or something. But no, jasper, they DON’T all do it. That old Clintonite line is as durable as a twice used rubber. Keep doing what you do but you might want to change, ultimately, what you are which means coming clean. The Truth, the Whole Truth and Nothing But the Truth. On everything. Maybe after the transition, once the guns are holstered you will write your own book. The dead deserve the facts to come out. The raped, the robbed, the scammed. Those numberless individual Americans you and yours have shat on and laughed about it in your swank hotel rooms, and of course the nation at large deserve honesty, in the end. You are doing honorable work, finally. But even with these titanic stakes it doesn’t amount to much compared to the weight of your criminal career. But thanks. Two cheers for you.
I’m not sure how everyone feels about Dick Morris, Bill Clinton’s former political campaign consultant, he has a very good track record on the inner-machinations of polling and framing of agenda’s according to the polling. Either way, he has been on target from his past predictions of political outcomes and worthy of consideration… Still potentially good news.
“Current State Of Play”
By DICK MORRIS
Published on DickMorris.com on November 1, 2012
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Here’s the rundown:
• Romney leads in all the states McCain carried in 2008 for 179 electoral votes.
• Romney is convincingly ahead in Indiana (10), North Carolina (15), Florida (29), Colorado (9), and Virginia (13) total: 255 needed to win: 270
• Ohio (18): It looks like we are ahead. Rasmussen has us up by two. So do some internal polls. But with the variation in turnout motivation and the undecided going against the incumbent, we should win by more than that.
• Iowa (6) Ditto. Latest polls have us one ahead.
• NH (4) Rasmussen has us up by two but probably more than that given turnout and undecided voters.
• Pennsylvania (20) Our ace in the hole! We are outspending Obama 6:1 here. Partly because of your donations to Super PAC for America (Michael Reagan’s outfit). Give some more! Last night’s poll had us ahead by two in Pennsylvania. If we lose Ohio, Pennsylvania will put us over the top.
• Wisconsin (10) Rasmussen has it tied at 49-49. We have a great organization here that won the recall contest against Gov Walker. I bet we win here. Now the focus of a major Romney effort.
• Minnesota (16) Believe it or not, coming within range. Just a few points behind and a lot of money going in there this weekend.
• Michigan (15) We should be closer here than we are. Lots of new money going in over the weekend, but we have faded a bit here.
Overall: Likely a 5-10 pt Romney win and above 300 electoral votes.
Dick Morris is one of the best if not the best political mind out there. He just gets it. He was the first ( I think) to call for 60+ seats in the house in 2010. Everybody “in the know” thought he was a lunatic then.
I completely trust his judgement. If he says landslide, I say how big.
I’ll be surprised if there’s any significant rioting owing to the election results, even from the anarchical left, black panthers, et. al.
Now, when “austerity measures” are ever proposed and/or implemented — then, like in Europe, you’ll see the leftist, government-dependent-class, victicrats rioting for sure …
Agreed.
Some understand the seathing anger Americans have for Obama and his communist minions…
Obama and Jarret want payback? Great…come and get it. You want to set the jungle on the American people? Been big game hunters for a long long time…
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/11/01/Las-Vegas-Sun-Destroys-
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL DESTROYS OBAMA
by WILLIAM BIGELOW 1 Nov 2012,
In one of the most blistering denunciations of Barack Obama ever penned, the Las Vegas Review Journal published an editorialtoday that excoriated Obama not only for his ineptitude in the Benghazi attack, but also his duplicity afterward and the cooperation of a supine press:
The Obama administration sat by doing nothing for seven hours that night, ignoring calls to dispatch help from our bases in Italy, less than two hours away. It has spent the past seven weeks stretching the story out, engaging in misdirection and deception involving supposed indigenous outrage over an obscure anti-Muslim video, confident that with the aid of a docile press corps this infamous climax to four years of misguided foreign policy can be swept under the rug, at least until after Tuesday’s election … The official explanation for why Obama administration officials watched the attack unfold for seven hours, refusing repeated requests to send the air support and relief forces that sat less than two hours away in Italy? Silence.
The RJ also charged Obama with impotence as he flew off to Las Vegas instead of dealing with the attack.
Prompt and strong action from the White House on Sept. 11 might have saved American lives, as well as America’s reputation as a nation not to be messed with. Weakness and dithering and flying to Las Vegas the next day for celebrity fund-raising parties are somehow better?
The RJ pulled no punches about the Obama Administration‘s efforts to destroy our economy and accused Obama of continually flat-out lying to the American people.
This administration is an embarrassment on foreign policy and incompetent at best on the economy – though a more careful analysis shows what can only be a perverse and willful attempt to destroy our prosperity. Back in January 2008, Barack Obama told the editorial board of the San Francisco Chronicle that under his cap-and-trade plan, “If somebody wants to build a coal-fired power plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them.” He added, “Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” It was also in 2008 that Mr. Obama’s future Energy Secretary, Steven Chu, famously said it would be necessary to “figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe” – $9 a gallon.
Yet the president now claims he’s in favor of oil development and pipelines, taking credit for increased oil production on private lands where he’s powerless to block it, after he halted the Keystone XL Pipeline and oversaw a 50 percent reduction in oil leases on public lands.
These behaviors go far beyond “spin.” They amount to a pack of lies.
The RJ concluded:
To return to office a narcissistic amateur who seeks to ride this nation’s economy and international esteem to oblivion, like Slim Pickens riding the nuclear bomb to its target at the end of the movie “Dr. Strangelove,” would be disastrous. Candidate Obama said if he couldn’t fix the economy in four years, his would be a one-term presidency.
Mitt Romney is moral, capable and responsible man. Just this once, it’s time to hold Barack Obama to his word. Maybe we can all do something about that, come Tuesday.
The fiery wrath of proud Americans is back.
McCain, Grahamnesty and Lieberman…
Don’t figure out the last (R)…
Water under the bridge (until the elections, at least0…
cobra, McLame and Lady Lindsey seem to have co-opted Kelly Ayotte lately. She sticks to them like Kristen Gillibrand sticks to Shmucky Schoooooooma. If those two wimped out, they would’ve told her to stand down as well.
Other possibilities for the 4th Senator —
Jon Kyl – He hasn’t anything to loose because he is over and done in January so why not go out with a big bang?
Jim DeMint – He has cojones bigger than a cue ball!!
Cobra, that is just what I thought.
The name of that fourth one will come to me though.
Based on watching Greta tonight I would guess Pat Roberts from Kansas. Both McCain and Roberts spoke out tonight about Libya. I would assume that one is Lieberman and the other would be Graham.
My other question is why do 2 networks that are in the tank for Obama have the damning emails proving that Obama Adm specifically told teams to “stand down”… why wouldn’t they be provided to all of them plus the print news so that at least someone would report it?? Why only 2?
I trust Newt. It’s coming – timing, timing.
Did you hear about what Glenn Beck is proposing? Either the network and other television news company reveal their info on Benghazi or he is going to expose them because he has the proof they are covering up to protect Obama.
I love Glenn Beck. A true patriot.
That’s been my thoughts — we will win, except by a landslide — IF, IF, IF they don’t succeed at stealing it. I was encouraged that WSI got Soros under control re that Spanish company (?) – don’t know about the absentee ballots, etc. WHI doesn’t know or understand how many are out there that are fighting this voter fraud probably (along with his powerful enemies). He is still thinking of how it was in the past — it isn’t going to be that way ever again !!! Obama has awakened millions and are well aware of this fraud game so I think we have a good chance at beating it this time.
Another thought — if the “worst” happens by stealing and is re-elected, either we will be able to prove the fraud (and Romney becomes the winner) and/or he won’t last long enough to carry their plans through as Jarrett has planned. As I said in a previous post, really think we will have the help needed to finally impeach him and get rid of their evil empire. Not worried about riots. So I’m not going to faint or something if it’s first announced that Obama won. Too many scenarios to consider. Hang in there everyone.
Very instructive article from multiple standpoints…
Why a Typical Honest Russian Immigrant Hates Obama
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/why_a_typical_honest_russian_immigrant_hates_obama.html
Very interesting article!
Thanks for the link!
Oh – also wanted to say re Romney running an “honest” campaign – that’s not surprising but that is another good sign. God will bless that. No doubt there. And that is of HUGE importance. I know what he’s saying about how the “cheaters” usually win (temporarily) and all that, but if the timing and purpose of God is to help us be restored, He will see to it we get the right people in to do it and take care of fraud or whatever that is blocking it. So for me, that is comforting news. “What satan (Jarrett, Obama, etc.) meant for harm, He will turn into our good”. May it ever be so.
Benghazi Reveals Obama-Islamist Alliance
The nature of the Benghazi disaster is now clear. Ambassador Stevens was engaged in smuggling sizable quantities of Libyan arms from the destroyed Gaddafi regime to the Syrian rebels, to help overthrow the Assad regime in Syria. Smuggling arms to the so-called “Free Syrian Army” is itself a huge gamble, but Obama has been a gambler with human lives over the last four years, as shown by the tens of thousands of Arabs who have died in the so-called Arab Spring — which has brought nothing but disaster to the Arab world.
For the last four years, the Obama policy has been to offer aid and comfort violent Islamic radicals in the delusional belief that their loyalty can be bought. We therefore betrayed Hosni Mubarak, our 30-year ally in Egypt, so that the Muslim Brotherhood led by Muhammed Morsi could take over. Obama indeed demanded publicly that Mubarak resign, for reasons that never made any sense at all. Egypt went into a political and economic tailspin, and the Muslim Brotherhood were elected. The Muslim radicals have now purged the only other viable political force, the army and police, to protect their monopoly on power. We have colluded in that betrayal.
In Libya, we betrayed Moammar Gaddafi, who had surrendered his nuclear program to the Bush administration. In Afghanistan, we betrayed the central government set up by the Bush administration and negotiated with the fanatical war sect of the Taliban to take over. The Taliban entered our history when they gave safe haven to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda in the years before 9/11/01 to plan, train, equip, and implement the terrorist attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. The Taliban are our fanatical theological enemy, as shown by their sadistic attempt to assassinate 14-year-old women’s rights advocate Malala Yousuf.
Afghanistan has many thousands of Malalas we will never hear about.
Our consistent policy of betrayal of moderate Muslims in favor of radical Islamofascists goes hand-in-hand with our appeasement of the Iranian Khomeinist regime, which is the most America-hating Shiite regime, now facing competition from America-hating Sunni regimes in Egypt and elsewhere. It also fits our cooperation with Turkey’s “neo-Ottoman” regime, which has also purged the Turkish army and police to remove modern-minded Turks from power. Egypt and Iran will soon have nuclear weapons and delivery vehicles.
We have therefore followed a single “community disorganizing” policy toward the Muslim world, consisting of betraying moderates to bring theocratic fascists to power. Obama “explained” that policy in a publicized argument with Hillary Clinton at the White House when Mubarak was overthrown. His explanation? Fascist revolutions are “organic,” and therefore more stable than moderate revolutions. Obama’s fantasy policy runs contrary to U.S. foreign policy since World War I.
The biggest loser in this mad administration has been hundreds of millions women of the Muslim world, who were on a path to modernity and freedom until Obama and Hillary Clinton betrayed them. Today they are shut inside the prisons of sharia law.
The second-biggest loser has been relative stability in a great geographical swath of the Muslim world, from Afghanistan and Pakistan across the Middle East, all the way to Tunisia and Morocco.
The third-biggest loser has been our anti-proliferation policy against the spread of weapons of mass destruction among developing nations. From fighting proliferation, we have turned to aiding it.
Those three Horsemen of the Apocalypse are now out of the barn and riding free.
In Benghazi, al-Qaeda showed that they could not be bought even by our back-stabbing policy. Our Benghazi arms-smuggling base was attacked by elements of AQIM (al-Qaeda in the Maghreb) in an act of betrayal against our fantasy-driven way of doing things. The American betrayer was itself betrayed, and Obama-Hillary could do nothing to defend the Americans under attack at the Benghazi arms-smuggling base, because any public revelation of the truth would rip the cover off our mad actions and focus the hatred of Muslim nations on the United States.
The evidence now shows that Obama was aware of the attack within 55 minutes of the start. It lasted for six or seven hours, and Obama consistently countermanded standing orders to protect Americans under attack in the Africom command area. General Ham may have been fired for following standard U.S. policy to defend American personnel.
In Syria, the Assad regime now has a legitimate basis to convict us of deadly dabbling in the Syrian civil war. Russia and China are likely to take up Assad’s cause at the United Nations. They would be right on the facts.
Because the Benghazi attack coincided exactly with the AQ attack on our Cairo Embassy, both on September 11 of this year, this was apparently a central command decision by AQ, presumably ordered by Osama bin Laden’s successor, Al Zawahiri, in Pakistan using a video released on the web shortly before those attacks. The message was “al-Qaeda lives!” Everybody who saw the news photos that day got that message. Only Obama is in public denial.
Because the Egyptian regime chose not to defend our embassy, we know that Muhammad Morsi was in cahoots with the AQ attack. Host governments always have the first responsibility to defend accredited embassies. Egypt “forgot” to defend us, and that was the message.
The purpose of the AQ attacks was to embarrass the United States, and to show us to be a paper tiger, precisely the way Ayatollah Khomeini did to Jimmy Carter. AQ also wanted to tear off the cover of the Benghazi arms-smuggling operation, to make us look like a treasonous ally, which, as it turns out, we are. All of our allies around the world, from South Korea and Japan to Israel, Australia, and Norway, must now be reassessing our reliability. One major betrayal of our allies is enough to shatter sixty years of faith in American leadership.
Here is the evidence as published in the Jerusalem Post, in an interview with retired counterintelligence professional Clare Lopez. The credit for the exposing the U.S. arms-smuggling conspiracy that just capsized goes to Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy (SecureFreedom.org) and other alert conservative columnists around the web.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/benghazi_reveals_obama-islamist_alliance.html
Benghazi Reveals Obama-Islamist Alliance
The nature of the Benghazi disaster is now clear. Ambassador Stevens was engaged in smuggling sizable quantities of Libyan arms from the destroyed Gaddafi regime to the Syrian rebels, to help overthrow the Assad regime in Syria. Smuggling arms to the so-called “Free Syrian Army” is itself a huge gamble, but Obama has been a gambler with human lives over the last four years, as shown by the tens of thousands of Arabs who have died in the so-called Arab Spring — which has brought nothing but disaster to the Arab world.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/benghazi_reveals_obama-islamist_alliance.html
You all cheat, and, then you say you love this country? What a bunch of BS, and, you should be so ashamed of yourselves. Justice will be done here, either in this life or the next….you had all better be making your peace!!!!!!!
I couldn’t agree with you more. This revelation disgusts me to the core. I understand doing what one is told, but if you know what you are being told to do is flat out wrong, any good human just wouldn’t do it. I am sick to my stomach.
I understand the ire towards WHI but America is about second chances. The man realized his mistake and is working his butt off to try to fix it.
We should save our anger for the people that continue to help this sham of a President get re-elected.
He is more than a day late and a dollar short. If he had done the right thing all along we wouldn’t be in the situation we are in now. Second chances? He has probably done this many times. Anyone on either side of the isle who does this sort of vote manipulation is flat out disgusting. I have absolutely no respect for people who toy with people. all of us, to advance a political agenda.
I totally understand your perspective, but I’m willing to let bygones be bygones, when one finds the inner strength to step back, reevaluate their behavior and work like hell to make amends.
Who knows, maybe Obama and Jarrett could be forgiven. But, as far as I’m concerned, leave that to God, because they’ll never get forgiveness from me–not if I lived five lifetimes.
As for WHI? He’s alright by me. He’s proof that the strongest tigers CAN change their stripes, one decision at a time.
And WSI? I’m sure there are many ghosts that haunt him. From what I’ve seen, the man is making amends. I’d wager that ABC’s move to join forces with Fox (concerning Benghazi) is largely due to his efforts.
At his trial in Jerusalem in 1961, Eichmann maintained “I was only following orders”. Later it became used by other defendants at Nuremberg and is known as “the Nuremberg defense”.
Again, I share the outrage, with regard to voter fraud.
But let’s put this in perspective:
WHI cheated. Eichmann murdered thousands of Jews. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!!
Personally, I can forgive WHI.
Eichmann, on the other hand, can enjoy his bountiful crap garden in Hell…the Israelis should have slowly dismembered him over the course of weeks, rather than hanging him.
For individuals such as Eichmann, give them to God to judge, but not until mankind is through with them.
“Hell, that could have been a leakdown test. ”
That’s just what I suspected in the Jarrett thread.
Listen WHI, I don’t think I like you anymore. You call WSI on the carpet for not doing enough. I call YOU on the carpet for not doing enough. Men like you are part of the problem, seeing as how you “did what you were told” and helped to cheat the system. Cheaters win for a little while, but they eventually lose. The only way to redeem yourself is to use information you have to get people to talk. If they don’t talk, you need to, publicly, and fast. If you really want to do what’s right, get on it son. Otherwise don’t waste any more of our time.
Counterterrorism Group Not Convened during Libya attack…..
WHY?
Jennifer Griffin reporting for Fox News…breaking news
Counterterrorism offensive never convened…we alo know head f Libyan security got a call, that night, from Ambassador Stevens telling him “We’re under attack” called Washington….and nothing happened…
Counterterrorism offensive ..is that Clapper, who serves in name only…Will Brennan who is n complete charge toss Clapper under the BS…too late for that…This is ll about Obama
Maybe I “misheard” or something – but today on Fox w/Bret Beir – re the other media not reporting about Benghazi – said CBS and another (can’t remember) were now reporting. On another program one of the journalists saying a couple of the MSM (again, can’t remember but major) – are saying they should stop ignoring the reporting being done at Fox and start…??? Something like that. Maybe I was dreaming.
No you heard right. Bair did say CBS was covering and Dobbs saying WaPo, FP mag, David Ignacious and I am seeing personally more local coverage. Finally. I continue to remain absolutely enraged over this being from a very military family (dad, brother, husband, 2 sons). I am just consumed with this and still feel strongly that the admin and the press are equally to blame and accessories to murder. The press mainly because they long ago prostituted themselves to this admin and would not put out the info necessary to out this fraud 4 years ago. Death by firing squad for all of them!
Now – just heard on Neil Cavuto I wasn’t dreaming. He also was saying that finally the MSM is reporting. So….maybe WSI or whoever did help get this out? Fox still on this strong. Confirms what we were saying that the Benghazigate won’t be going away — and hopefully, bring the murderous traitors down???
Its all over Twitter.
The Benghazi Drip-Drip-Drip – ABC News. Wow ABC News is standing with Us & Fox, on Benghazi,demanding answers from Obama
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/the-benghazi-drip-drip-drip/
Romney MUST address Benghazi now — MUST.
It will get coverage when he asks the necessary questions.
NOW.
Before the election.
AmericaTheBeautiful: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/11/01/Las-Vegas-Sun-Destroys- Has been scrubbed. Cannot access it.
Ace has it.
http://minx.cc/?post=334512
I remember reading an article after the 2010 elections that said absentee ballot numbers had increased by a large amount. I guess this would be what WHI was referring to. The Dems realized that in order to win in 2012 they had to plan on committing voter fraud.
ATB: Nvmd. Found another way to access it.
The Obama media spin machine on Benghazi has begun:
http://t.news.msn.com/us/us-officials-no-delays-in-rescue-effort-in-libya
Excellent article at HillBuzz on why Sandy is devastating for Obama.
http://bit.ly/QXKhwA
Can’t reply to any of you, the window just does not open.
So,
out of the 4 senators Lieberman for sure, McCain and Graham most probably.
About the loss of momentum for Romney…. may be for a day or two, but the Obama photo ops is fading fast amongst the long lines in NJ and NY for gas, the blackouts, the lack of phone lines, and now the dumpster diving.
I have gone thru more hurricanes that I have fingers on my hands. You need rage to think about voting in the wake of these. All your energy is about recovering as fast as possible, because the clock is ticking fast. The longer you are without power, the more likely you are to get sick and weaken.
Amazing how fast you get rashes when you cannot properly wash, how fast food goes when you cannot replenish, how fast you get exhausted when your shelter is not secure and properly cooled or heated.
And Dems do not have rage. They won’t go vote in masse. The end result might be a Romney NJ. All the very affected area are super dem and that might be enough to tip the balance. And they voted for a Republican governor not that long ago.
About the WSI issue raised. We know that his area of expertise had to do with military procurements.
There might be some residuals which need to be kept out of sight according to him. Who knows… If it is the case, well, there might be too much blood on those old hands to get atonement after all… Not for me to judge.
And for Jarrett going ganster on her team…. Let’s remind ourselves she is the one who said: “By all means necessary”
For some times I have been asking myself about that. A possibility is definitely, stealing as much as possible to narrow the margin, and then lawyering up to pull a Frankel, all that with the pressure of riots in the streets.
This is why it needs to be a landslide.
Will we have it? It is God’s will. He gave us Romney who has turned out to be a much better candidate and man that most of us thought, so I am confident that if he also gave us Sandy, it is to give us this landslide in the end.
There is no way Obama will not get the Electoral vote for the storm hit areas. Doesn’t matter if less Dems vote, it will all still go to Obama.
Sheryl Attkisson – CBS:
Sources: Key task force not convened during Benghazi consulate attack
“CBS News has learned that during the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG).
“The CSG is the one group that’s supposed to know what resources every agency has. They know of multiple options and have the ability to coordinate counterterrorism assets across all the agencies,” a high-ranking government official told CBS News. “They were not allowed to do their job. They were not called upon.” . . .”
” . . . The Administration also didn’t call on the only interagency, on-call, short notice team poised to respond to terrorist incidents worldwide: the Foreign Emergency Support Team (FEST). FEST’s seasoned experts leave within four hours of notification and can provide “the fastest assistance possible.” . . .”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57544026/sources-key-task-force-not-convened-during-benghazi-consulate-attack/?pageNum=1&tag=page
(ABC may be starting to cover this, finally, as well . . . )
Jake Tapper, ABC:
The Benghazi Drip-Drip-Drip
” . . .In the place of a detailed description from the Obama administration about what happened more than six weeks ago comes the drip-drip-drip of stories about the failures of the Obama administration to provide those Americans on the ground in Libya with all the security assets they needed. . . ”
” . . .Fox News Channel’s Catherine Herridge last night reported on a newly discovered cable indicating that in August, less than a month before the attack, the diplomatic post in Benghazi convened an “emergency meeting” concerned about local Al Qaeda training camps. Said the cable: “RSO (Regional Security Officer) expressed concerns with the ability to defend Post in the event of a coordinated attack due to limited manpower, security measures, weapons capabilities, host nation support, and the overall size of the compound.” . . .”
” . . .“Is he engaged in the investigation and receiving updates on the investigation, or is he waiting until it’s complete?” ABC News’ Devin Dwyer asked. . . ” [of Carney, re: Obama]
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/the-benghazi-drip-drip-drip/
To WHI:
You are wrong about one thing.
If Romney wins, there will be riots, yes…candy-a– 99%ers defecating all over themselves and stirring it up.
But, if Obama wins, there won’t be riots. There will be (relative) quiet until Obama tramples a couple more critical Constitutional rights.
Then, there will be civil war. Not by ‘Senators sons’ or Ivy league peaceniks, but by people who have had enough and mean serious business…by people who have planned in heroic ways that would make John Brennan’s and NSA’s collective heads spin…by people who not only expect to die, but recognize that their own mortality is the only way to preserve liberty.
That’s the difference between 99%ers and the American heartland.
Bill,
One thing that really riles me up is reading that the new Obamacare tax form, beginning in 2014, will require people to fill out health information!
This has gone way too far!
It’s an inevitable part of Obamacare. They set it up so that the IRS enforces it, the IRS now accesses your health records, QED. It’s also the reason that Roberts said, “it’s a tax!”
But it’s not something the IRS is making up for giggles — the structure of the law that was enacted makes this happen.
Having read the roughly 2,800 pages of Obamacare, I can tell you that every aspect of this law is designed to increase federal reach into everyone’s personal lives.
On the whole, it’s a Communist Manifesto of sorts, just cleverly disguised in ambiguity and obfiscated via its minutia and sheer length.
Aside from Obamacare, the administration’s focus has largely been to collect as much information on individual citizens as possible, via DHS, NSA and the various executive orders, regulations and laws that have been passed, in order to dramatically increase surveillance of the general population.
For any Bush-lovers out there, know that I was once one of them. I see now that Bush (and his progressive father before him) was merely setting the stage for Mr. Obama.
Romney is this nation’s last chance. If he is not elected, we will quickly see the last of our privacy and liberties stripped away via Obamacare and the totally out of control Patriot Act.
The administration has to quiet the Benghazi fiasco, because it strikes such a blow to the White House narrative that the real terrorist threats have shifted from abroad to the domestic front.
DHS’, NSA’s, FBI’s and even FEMA’s massive shift to focusing on ‘Domestic Terror’, is exactly what it appears to be…an epic effort to destroy the state’s sovereignty and assert centralized control on U.S. citizens.
I never cease to be shocked and dumbfounded that people can’t see this administration for what it is. And, when I see people blindly supporting this monster in Washington, I continually ask myself:
“CAN PEOPLE REALLY BE THIS DUMB???!!!”
Remember something about news cycles: when you blend two big stories, one of them – or both – gets lost. Right now, for the moment, Sandy is the story. And in case most of us haven’t recognized it, Obama is screwing up in NYC, even if the Governor of New Jersey is making nice sounds. Ever hear the words “you’re doing a great job, Brownie?” Obama is getting punked, and he doesn’t even know it.
Look at the picture of people not getting help, dumpster diving, stranded and helpless; this is not to Obama’s credit. People are freezing, dying – it’s pathetic. And it’s Obama’s mess. This shouldn’t be. This is Katrina in a place that voted for Obama. He is not a leader, and he isn’t doing what is needed.
So don’t panic because this is taking precedent; it deserves its place, it’s important: the mother who tried to get help for her and her two young sons, whose children drowned because some man refused help, to let them in – that’s absolutely heart-rending, upsetting in an indescribable way. Doesn’t that ring a bell? In Benghazi? Letting people die. Both are examples of despicable non-actions of non-rescuers who won’t lend a hand, even when a hand is available.
Impatience kills more stories than anything, and the story of Benghazi is not just about four murdered Americans, denied help – like those two little boys were denied help – it’s about a lie that went on for nearly 10 days, when the administration knew the truth within moments of the episode. It’s hard to say what will happen with the man who let the boys perish, if he’ll be reviled. From the surface, he deserves to be exposed. Same as the administration, letting someone’s grown boys die ignominiously and alone.
The hurricane tragedy isn’t over, and it is just about to be moved by another news story – the Return of Benghazi.
Meanwhile, maybe some prayers for the people on the coast who are suffering from this awful tragedy; please join me: I pray for their safety and comfort and that they will be able to find shelter and that they will have, like Job, compensation for all their losses, that they are given and will receive the Peace That Passes All Understanding – in Jeshua/ Jesus’ Holy Name I pray this. amen
I also pray for the parents of ALL the men who died in action as a result of the callousness of this administration – and that there is just punishment to those who set insane rules of engagement, to those who withheld aid to our embattled men in Benghazi. No mother or father should watch their sons suffer betrayal at the hands of their own government; this is not Coventry – (disputed as that issue is, but symbolically significant.)
I haven’t read all the way down the thread, so apologies if this has been mentioned.
“Look at the picture of people not getting help, dumpster diving, stranded and helpless; this is not to Obama’s credit. People are freezing, dying – it’s pathetic. And it’s Obama’s mess.”
And you know what really frosted my cookies? There is a photo making the rounds, I think I saw it first on Drudge, of Our Merciful Leader embracing a sobbing women in NJ. The poor lady is distraught, crying in the arms of her president. Look at Obama’s face. It is as cold and hard as anything I’ve ever seen. His eyes are staring into the distance.
Make sure you haven’t eaten anything recently before you look at it.
I’m thinking of printing up a car sign or bumper sticker. White background with Benghazi in big blood-red letters. We need to get Benghazi out there everywere we go.
In case anyone missed this on the previous thread – posted by CHARLOTTE:
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One of the top Secret Service Agents assigned to President Obama’s protective detail has apparently taken his own life. Law enforcement sources tell CBS News that Rafael Prieto, an Assistant Special Agent in-Charge in the President’s Protective Detail, was found in a car inside a garage at an apartment complex in Northwest Washington D.C. on Saturday.
Prieto was discovered by Secret Service agents after they were not able to reach him by phone. The death is being investigated by the Washington Metropolitan Police Department. The Washington D.C. Medical Examiner said the cause of death was still being determined, but a law enforcement source said it appeared to be carbon monoxide poisoning from a running car in the closed garage.
Prieto had been suspended by the Secret Service, pending administrative action. Sources said Prieto’s name surfaced as an outgrowth of the internal investigation into allegations that Secret Service agents patronized prostitutes in Columbia while doing advance work for the president’s trip there.
Prieto was not a target of that investigation, but came to the attention of investigators when information surfaced that he had engaged in a long term relationship with a foreign citizen that he had not reported to the agency as required by regulations.
The president’s protective detail is the most prestigious assignment in the Secret Service. Prieto, as an Assistant Special Agent in-Charge, or ASAC, was one of the key managers of the detail’s operations. Prieto had been with the US Secret Service for twenty years.
“Rafael Prieto had a distinguished twenty year career with the Secret Service that was marked by accomplishments, dedication and friendships. The Secret Service is mourning the loss of a valued colleague,” the agency said in a statement released to CBS News.
A law enforcement source told CBS News Prieto was not under investigation by the Secret Services Office of Professional Responsibility but rather in the midst of an administrative process to clarify a long, ongoing relationship with a foreigner. The source said that as part of that process, Prieto’s security clearance and access to Secret Service facilities had been suspended.
Since the Colombia-prostitution allegations broke, the investigation into the conduct of Secret Service agents while overseas has been the subject of intense media coverage, congressional scrutiny marked by allegations and some political jousting. It has resulted in a probe by the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of the Inspector General. The report was given to congressional committee’s last week. No public version of the findings has yet been released, but the report did address allegations that agents had repeated, unreported contacts with foreign nationals, in violation of agency regulations.
It is unknown if Prieto’s situation was one of those referenced in the report. Congressional sources said that the IG’s report found that in two cases subsequent background checks on foreign nationals resulted in “hits” in national security databases.
A law enforcement source told CBS News “suggestions that Rafael Prieto was under investigation for espionage or passing information to a foreign contact are not accurate”.
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MSM complicit criminals …Wash Post, AP, ABC, Reuters…just dumped their rebuttal on Benghazi for Obama…
One word…misprision
@mega:
Yes, they DO all do it.
“UM: What happens right after the election? If Obama loses?
WHI: Riots.
UM: And if Obama wins?
WHI: Riots.
UM: So why does it matter?”
Ulsterman, it’s about perception.
If Romney wins, the strategy transitions into either setting Obama up for a 2016 run, or the riots can be used to declare a national emergency and implement Continuity of Government via martial law and DHS Directives.
The risks to setting Obama up for a 2016 run means that Romney would have to be largely destroyed by his first term. This is possible because no matter who wins chances are the US Dollar’s erosion as the world’s reserve currency and thus US Dollar surplus dumping is incredibly likely. Romney’s economic plan is torn to pieces as the Romney-Ryan ticket estimates that the economy has 10 years. It doesn’t; Russia and China have expanded trade agreements that very nearly encompasses all of the BRICS and ASEAN as well as already beyond with Germany and Saudi Arabia that disbands the US Dollar in denominated trade amongst themselves. The US certainly does not have the economic infrastructure that it had in the 70s. To be precise, it’s at 10% capacity with nearly 30 years of globalization derived outsourcing and off shoring. Obama’s margin for error in 2016 effectively does not exist if he wishes to delegate his authorities to Staff who possess Big Government ambitions; this is do or die for them.
The risk of essentially staging a coup is that there will be international observers this election monitoring elections for Conservative fraud and intimidation. Interestingly, the nations involved have largely become authoritarian these days with the Euro crisis, so the backlash may not actually be present. Additionally, these observers could act as intimidation against Romney supporters turning out to vote, so it’s not entirely certain if riots and a national emergency are necessary particularly with Obama polling internationally very well.
“WHI: Because one will be temporary…the other…if Obama wins…it all becomes permanent. The country is done – at least as anything we will recognize.”
Don’t bet on it. Frankly, win or lose legitimately; Jarret makes it very plain that the Obama Administration’s second term would drop any pretenses of democratic processes. President Obama has already proved willing to allow or act beyond the confines of US Governance; there is no reason to believe that win or lose that won’t change.
One of the reasons WHI is right is that there is not a single thing – not a single reason – that anyone should vote for Barack Obama.
The whole Obama campaign has revolved around why people should not vote for Romney, as if Romney was the President for the last four years – and it makes me sick to my stomach that I didn’t support Romney when he ran against McCain four years ago: four years of Romney and we would have had an actual, real, impressive recovery, and with us, much of the rest of the world.
President Romney inspires hope, but the hope he inspires is the result of actual competence and administrative brilliance. Obama has none of those – Obama only has his Cult of Personality, and after looking at the debates, it’s clear that he has no personality, either.
A vore for Obama is like buying another lotto jackpot ticket – might win, but the odds are so much against it, even many hardened players finally decide to stop wasting their money. This is mirrored in the election: Obama will win the votes of those who think playing Lotto is a good investment. There’s no sense in trying to un-fool a fool.
On the Obama ad that compares voting for Obama with having sex for the first time, it’s worth noting that most people who voted for him the first time don’t think he was very good. A big disappointment.
And now, as one commenter put it, he says he needs four years to complete the deal; those people eventually found out that the experience wasn’t all that orgasmic, after all, and the prospect of grinding out another four years of the same seem like a good reason to break up now.
Ok, let’s talk about the state of the race. Or, I should say, the possible state of the race. The possible state of the race that may have Jarrett happy and WHI/WSI concerned.
2 things have occurred in the last week or so. First, the polls began to tighten, pre-Sandy. This is natural. Karl Rove talked about this on FOX News Sunday this past week. When a campaign is down to the final 2 weeks or so, one of two things happens. Either one candidate breaks away, or things tighten up. In this race, things started to tighten up, at least in some swing states.
Second, Sandy. Now, you and I might know that Obama is just doing photo op Machiavellian stuff, but that doesn’t mean that Joe Undecided Voter will see it that way. Most people don’t follow things as intensely as we do here.
Thus, the movement in the polls towards Obama in the last 10 days or so. And — this is what WHI was worried about yesterday — it IS possible that Obama could ride the “Sandy Commander In Chief” propaganda surge to victory, narrowly, on Election Day. Doubtful, at least in a clean election, but possible. And that has people concerned, and rightfully so, I think.
What has happened with Sandy is it has allowed, as VTX mentioned above, Libya to be pushed into the background. That is, it has allowed Obama’s camp to take control of the narrative, with the help of the mainstream media. It has allowed Obama to go from the snarling, exposed figure of the debates who only had a negative campaign to run against Romney to the Grand Bipartisan Unifier who is standing with Chris Christie, wearing bomber jackets with “Commander In Chief” on them and putting out photos to the press of him in the Situation Room ‘leading’ the response to Sandy.
Is this a fraudulent image of Obama? Of course it is, in my opinion. Longtime readers will recall how WHI (think it was him, could have been WSI) told a story one time how Obama did a photo op for a hurricane at FEMA and wanted out immediately and got pissy about how long it was taking. This is propaganda, folks. Obama is an actor. But if the ‘final cut’ looks ok, then Joe Undecided Voter may buy the scam. And that seems to be the case, as the uptick in his numbers indicates.
Now, there is a reasonable question to be asked here: Can Obama keep Sandy the focus of the narrative, in a positive way, until the election? That’s not going to be easy. But trying to do this will be the goal of the Obama Media and his allies. Thus, NBC is having a Sandy benefit show on tomorrow night. They don’t want to talk about people eating out of dumpsters, they want to talk about Heroic, Bipartisan Obama. And you can expect you will see many photos of Obama looking in command in that show, I would think. That is how networks and media conduct propaganda to help a candidate.
Still, it will be tough to hide the rising anger people are feeling with the slow response on Sandy. It’s a good story, for Obama, for like 3 days. Then it becomes a negative. So, the media will move on to protect him.
Before Sandy, Obama had no realistic shot at winning this election, at least in a fair manner. Now, he has switched his campaign from one focused on attacking Romney and being negative to Grand Unifying Commander In Chief Sandy Rescuer. As ridiculous as that sounds, and logically is to accomplish in a switch that took place in like 3 days, it can work. And it may be working. And this is why WHI says things like “if the American people are stupid enough to vote for him, they deserve him.” WHI, as a campaign technician, understands that down-the-stretch narrative control matters in elections, particularly close ones. And it particularly matters when your side is trying to drive a counter-narrative (Libya) and it is being willfully displaced by a media working hard to give the other guy his narrative (Sandy).
This race was over before Sandy, because WHI, WSI and their friends were going to bury Obama with a negative, Libya-heavy narrative heading into the election. Now, things have shifted a bit. And so more work remains, and there is more of a chance for Obama to prevail, despite all the hard work by UM, WHI, WSI and others. Essentially, dumb luck intervened to aid Obama. Some would call it divine intervention, others might call it the forces of evil seeking to help their assistant.
All right, so that is the overview of Sandy, narrative, etc. Now, where is the race at?
The fundamentals of the contest still favor Obama. The Sandy Propaganda Film has not changed the economy or lowered the debt. It has merely shifted people’s focus from those things, as is intended. Ditto with Libya.
Romney should still win. Obama can only win this election if he is able to perfectly navigate the natural tightening of the race with the Sandy Narrative through the election. And even then, he is still likely to need some, uh, ‘outside help’ to win the election, as WHI alluded to here.
Obama’s absolute, maximum ceiling in this race is probably a tied popular vote outcome and 299 electoral votes (EV). His more realistic EV ceiling is 276 or so, which would mean he wins VA, NH, IA, WI, MI, PA, NV but loses OH, CO, FL and NC.
If Obama wins this race, I think he would do so with between 272-276 or so EV’s and with a likely loss in the popular vote. It would be a squeak-out of all squeak-outs. But that won’t matter to him or Jarrett. They will treat it like a 1984-level blowout and mandate, even if it is more Woodrow Wilson in a diminished reelection win that further damages the Democratic Party brand and is essentially an indictment of the incumbent.
FL, by almost all I have heard from contacts there, is gone to Obama. I think Obama could only win there by wholesale fraud. FL is a Dem +4 state in Party ID, but if Obama only won there 50-48 in 2008, he’s not winning there again. No place but down for him.
NC is gone, I think, for Obama unless there is wholesale fraud and/or the black electorate listens to the recent “Confederate Voting Map” garbage and does a 2008-like turnout. That’s not going to happen, I am sure, even with Jesse Jackson there to seemingly incite African Americans.
Colorado does not have the demographics to go for Obama, even with its many latte liberals. The only group there who could save him would be Latinos, and I seriously doubt that will be enough to overcome the +1 GOP party ID in the state.
There is no way — no way — Obama should have any shot in OH. If he wins there, then I think fraud will be involved. That is my opinion. Ohio is essentially a Reagan Democrat state that does not have the demographics necessary for Obama to win this kind of election. Forget the nonsense about union power, too. Ohio is like 83% white or so, and Obama is getting crushed with whites, including in Ohio (around 55-43 or so, which is better than the national numbers). He would need a massive black turnout and a massive Democrat turnout to win the state. That almost certainly won’t happen, unless some ‘errors’ are involved in the process. I think in a fair election, Obama is done in Ohio.
Which leaves Virginia. If Obama loses VA, he almost certainly will lose the election. The two key states now are VA and OH. And you could throw in WI and CO as well. But the two most important states on the map now are VA and OH.
VA is a +1 GOP state. But it has a significant black population and a significant Latte Liberal (read: affluent white bozos) population. These are the people whom the Sandy Propaganda Film has been aimed at. These are the people whom the “Sandy was caused by Global Warming” chatter is aimed at. And these are the people, along with blacks in the state, whom the “If Romney wins Virginia it’s the Confederate Map as the Electoral Map” comments are aimed at.
Romney should win VA. And if he does, it’s game over unless real shenanigans are pulled in OH.
Obama has a narrower path to victory than Romney at this point. Romney could take PA and WI, lose OH and VA, and still win the race. Obama must win VA. If he does not win Virginia, he’s not winning the election. So, look for that early next week. If Virginia goes to Romney, it’s almost certainly over for Obama.
If Romney wins NC, FL, OH and CO, he’s at 262 EV’s. Then he only needs 8 more. Expect NH to go for Romney, which would put him at 266 EV’s.
I think Romney will win both OH and VA and win the election with at least 279 EV’s. This is what both Karl Rove and Scott Rasmussen have said. Romney is up in VA and he is up in OH. Anyone who says Obama is up in OH is either ignorant or may know some shenanigans going on with possible voter fraud. Demographically, Obama should have no shot in OH.
So, I think it’s down to VA. Romney doesn’t need to win VA to take the election. But if he does win it, things are essentially over. But Obama MUST win VA. Romney can win WI and lose VA and still win the election. That is why Obama’s camp is going nuts in WI now. They know they have to win both WI and OH to have a shot to win. Period.
With Sandy and the media’s fawning and continuing aftermath of it, Obama now has a real path and strategy to win. He’s changed the tone of his campaign from negative and all Romney attacks to Grand Unifier Leader Of Bipartisan Nation in like 3 days. It could work. The media is all in to save him in this election, an election he should lose.
The media is now painting Romney as “attacking” the Grand Unifier Obama. So, now Romney’s the negative one, etc. The tables have been turned. And that is why WHI and WSI are pissed, and they should be. This race was done. Over. Now it’s not.
Still, Romney should win. All of the fundamentals are in his favor, including enthusiasm and Party ID in the key states. Everyone just needs to finish the race strong, talk to any friends or family in Wisconsin and Virginia and tell them to mobilize and vote, and keep praying. We have a race now, where we didn’t have one before. But, we still should win and we must work harder than ever in the last 4-5 days to save America for ourselves, our children and our grandchildren. This is it; it’s go time. Let’s roll.
EDIT:
“The fundamentals of the contest still favor Obama” should read
“The fundamentals of the contest still favor Romney”
…at the beginning of the 12th paragraph
EDIT 2:
4th from last paragraph
“They know they have to win both WI and OH to have a shot to win. Period.”
should instead be
“They know they have to win both WI and VA to have a shot to win. Period.”
“Obama can only win this election if he is able to perfectly navigate the natural tightening of the race with the Sandy Narrative through the election.”
I’m not made at you but I just have to point out how absurd this “Storm helps Obama” premise is.
How the heck does a storm swing any opinion? Change the reality of the last 4 years?
The media covering or not covering something these final days of the race has nothing to do with the economy and general malaise American families see every day. The narrative that Obama is getting up off the ropes is stunningly foolish. It plays right into his hands. It’s exactly what Jarrett wants people to think, despite overwhelming evidence of Romney momentum.
“mad” typo.
I know it’s absurd and it probably won’t work, but until this happened, he had no shot. Maybe now he has a 25% shot, with some “help” on Election Day.
Obama’s team, their core, is built on skillful propaganda manipulation. Obama is a fraud, as WHI and WSI have both said. All politicians are fraudulent to some degree, but Obama appears to be all fraud, total fraud.
Think about Sandy and the coverage like going to a movie. In the movie, you suspend disbelief and get into the film. The ‘real world’ fades away. That is the effect they want to create here, and it could work. That’s all I’m saying. And if it does work, then, as WHI said, “the people deserve him.” If people are stupid enough to fall for the tricks of the con man — especially after they know what he truly is — then that is their fault. Fool me once, fool me twice.
I’m telling you how these people think. I’m not saying it will work.
Now, are there numbers backing up Jarrett’s arrogance at this time? I don’t know. I hope not. But if, as WSI said, things are moving to Obama in the last few days, then there is a chance he can pull this off. And that’s not what we want. But we have to work with what we have, which is what WSI said.
Propaganda works. And these people are skillful propagandists who have a huge amount of assistance in the media. Can they and their allies create a scenario where the should-know-better electorate allows itself to fall into a foolish ‘fling’ that ends up in Obama’s reelection. Yes. And that is the danger, even if the electorate wakes up the next day with a “what did I do?!?” regret.
I am not here to sew pessimism or play the Eeyore role. I am a realist who wants Obama defeated as much or more than anyone. In that regard, all contingencies and possibilities — however far fetched — must be considered and planned for. Once we win, I’ll be happy to put away the concern. Until we win, I will continue to have concern.
Never underestimate an opponent. Nothing is won until it is won.
I want to say this to WSI, who I’m sure is reading all of these comments:
Regardless of what happens in this battle, the war will continue, as necessary. Even if we lose this battle. I don’t expect to lose, but we will carry on and continue if we do. I want you to know that, so that whatever happens in the short term and before your body leaves this earth, you know that the fight will carry on even if we lose this battle. All you have done is not for naught, regardless of the outcome of this election. You have inspired many, helped many, gave us a chance. We thank you for that with a gratitude that is beyond words to express. And we will pick up the torch when the time comes. As you, and all who love freedom, deserve.
Like many others have come to learn the last four years, I understand the nature of the opponent we are dealing with. The totality of the plan, the global nature of this struggle.
This may or may not be a struggle for life and death. But what it certainly is, surely, is a struggle for the life and death of a way of life. Of freedom. Of a set of ideals that have led mankind to his pinnacle on this earth.
The other side wants a return to feudalism. They want a Communist, totalitarian society in which they, at the top, live as they want and the rest live a slave-like existence. Stunted, unfree, and permanently in a position to not be able to compete with those at the top, in any way.
The problem for the Global Elites is that you can never, ever extinguish the human spirit. It has been tried before and it always fails. And it will fail again, and again.
No one on this board or reading these comments will ever give up. We will fight as long as is necessary in opposition to the forces of repression. And so will our descendants, as is necessary. Freedom has always had a price; that has never, and will never, change.
If Obama wins reelection and he puts out 1,000 more executive orders, the fight will go on. And on. Until the time comes when all tyrants and dictators are defeated.
Never again. Ever.
Mitt Romney had better get himself into Benghazi Mode this weekend. The Moral High Ground is a nice place to occupy – yet, if he truly wants to win this election and be the next President of the United States of America, he must act presidential by asking the tough questions NOW.
Virtually impossible to keep up with Lame Cherry’s newly spun webs – but take a look at the most recent posts. What a convoluted mess. Can’t even begin to summarize the vision of hell unfolding.
ROMNEY: PUT THE BENGHAZI QUESTIONS TO BARACKHUSSEINOBAMA NOW.
@Obeline –
“Virtually impossible to keep up with Lame Cherry’s newly spun webs – but take a look at the most recent posts. What a convoluted mess. Can’t even begin to summarize the vision of hell unfolding.”
Unfortunately, I understand EVERY WORD Lame says!
@Obeline –
“Virtually impossible to keep up with Lame Cherry’s newly spun webs – but take a look at the most recent posts. What a convoluted mess. Can’t even begin to summarize the vision of hell unfolding….”
Unfortunately, I understand EVERY WORD Lame has been writing! Scarey Stuff
@Obeline –
“Virtually impossible to keep up with Lame Cherry’s newly spun webs – but take a look at the most recent posts. What a convoluted mess. Can’t even begin to summarize the vision of hell unfolding….”
Unfortunately, I understand EVERY WORD Lame has been writing! Scarey Stuff
Sorry for the double post!
ITK, Ken Blackwell in Ohio has expressed concern over the enormous amount of applications for absentee, double voting and minor change in law there…that Ohio’s vote will not be counted until 10 days after the election….Is that the theft that’s in process?
Yeah it could be, ATB. It could be. That seems to be ground zero if there is going to be some fraud. VA will have to be watched as well.
Rasmussen has things at 48-48 now for the national presidential race. There is definitely movement towards Obama. Can he peak that momentum next Tuesday? We’ll see. I don’t foresee him winning a 48-48 race, even with momentum. Too many motivated voters want him gone.
Still plenty to do.
“The Roman Empire is luxurious, but it is filled with misery. It is dying but it laughs–moritur et ridet.”
Not so far off from the truth, is it?
Romney’s new speech in Wisconsin terrific …great new zingers…crowd pumped…wish I could post picture here …uplifting!
Obeline, no Benghazi talk
Thx for the update.
IF he’s not going to bring it up and get everyone’s attention, who will?
Maybe he’s waiting until Monday?
Flying pigs?
Or some kind of strategy that defies comprehension?
(What, me worry?)
Romney and his camp are using a tried and true strategy: Let surrogates deal with most of the negative attacks.
Romney is focusing more on positivity and the economy. Others can hit at Libya, and keep Romney’s hands clean on that issue.
This is why WHI was so ticked off that the Senators/Congressman backed down on the Libya press conference. Everyone has to play his or her role, and if they chicken out, then entire play falls apart. If I were WHI, I would have felt exactly the same way. There is too much at stake now for cowards to start appearing on the horizon.
Also, this is why WSI put out the last letter to UM. The message was simply: You better beat this guy or he’s coming after you. And that means, also, he’s coming after grandstanding, TV-hogging senators who might be getting cold feet. So you better beat him, or else his team may be coming for you.
This is how politics, and power, works. What WSI said won’t surprise anyone who the message was intended for. It was simply meant to remind them that Jarrett has an up to date Enemies List that she will be looking to follow up on if she wins. If you think you’re on the list, you better step forward now and help defeat her and her front man.
ITK, certainly hope you’ve outlined an intentional and winning strategy. I have little faith in most people – let alone the great unwashed – to understand what’s at stake with this election.
IF the unthinkable happens and BHO somehow wins/steals the election it will be a pyrrhic victory at best . . . because WE will ensure that he and his cronies will be investigated, indicted, impeached, and/or destroyed.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/02/opinion/romney-vision-for-america/index.html?c=homepage-t&page=0
And read LameCherry today for an update on being turned red and murdered by Team O…it is happening and they’d better take him down but good…or some of those ninny’s need not worry about taking Center stage or any other stage ever again…
If people think things are tough now..particularly theses chicken shits…wait until the New Stalin has term two…they will not only not recognise America…they won’t be here to see it
The treason party…
Pelosi holds secret fundraiser with Islamists, Hamas-linked groups
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/02/pelosi-holds-secret-fundraiser-with-islamists-hamas-linked-groups/
Even if Zero wins, which I don’t believe, he is in deep doodoo.
Any idea that the Congress will roll over, even with the cry baby in charge, is wrong.
In fact I would be expecting impeachment procedures, for Libya-gate, at least.
I get why people are getting on WHI for telling the truth because the truth is disturbing.
However, the fact of the matter is that there are people in both parties who are committed to winning at any cost, by whatever means necessary.
They aren’t interested in legality or morality.
There is a lot of darkness in professional politics which is why a lot of good people get into it and either get out or get corrupted over time.
Political machines on the left and the right don’t care about the morality of using people up and spitting them out again when they aren’t useful. The machine exists to get Party members elected. If they think they can get away with skirting the law, then they will. They will do what it takes to win.
I remember being *shocked* *shocked* *shocked* when I figured this out years ago, but then you realize that if you don’t have people who are willing to play in the mud and do morally questionable things, then you’d never actually win and advance the agenda.
For every person who says that they won’t play the game, the machine can always find someone who will. People might change positions – move up or get in or get out – but it’s not like the machine ever shuts down or stops. It keeps running. It’s not dependent on any one person to keep going.
lovelypeace….You’re.full of BS…voter theft belongs to one party and one party only….can you say ACORN….
Take it to the Huffington Post where they eat up your crappola…
The Left is the home of situational ethics…It does not fly here….There is a right and there is a wrong…And you are WRONG….take your situational ethics with you.
If you still think that Sandy will work to Obama’s advantage, check in with the comment sections at places like Breitbart and CBSlocal. The anger being directed at Obama is almost palpable. It is pure vitriol.
And what’s left is being directed at Bloomberg. He persists in staging the marathon, using giant generators (hello downtown hospitals – need anybody to carry hundreds of patients down dark stairwells?) and trucks of food.
The Dems are not coming out of this too well.
Mustang,
Barky came to view the hurricane damage in one day then, he left.
There are reports coming out of NY/NJ that people are looting…not for TVs and computers, but FOOD! There are also photos of people dumpster diving because they’re hungry!
Sandy is barky’s Katrina, whether or not anyone wants to admit it. Welcome to the U.S.S. of A. under this dictatorship.
Tuesday. He’s gotta go on Tuesday.
Romney’s closing argument in Wisconsin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__9l31DN4lY&feature=player_embedded
(Just imagine what it would be like to restore dignity to the White House.)
As some of you here already know – I don’t think much of WSI so I think it’s very interesting that WHI brings up WSI and Benghazi, specifically, what was in those containers and what they were worth and how WSI may have shut down those Senators… Let’s not forget! Even though WSI didn’t vote — he backed Obama. Even though he may be working against Obama in some things, he may have connections with Obama on others.
Ambassador Stevens was CIA through and through. The whole deal in Libya involved two things: guns and drugs. Think of it as an international version of fast and furious on steroids.
Stevens was betrayed. I’m sure he was an honorable man, but he was in a no win situation. This administration are a bunch of rookies.
Romney is not necessarily a puppet like Bush W and Obama. He has a background that cannot be compromised.
Obama is gay, just like Lindsay Graham and this allows them to be blackmailed.
Romney is not a globalist in as much as were his predecessors. Having said that Chertoff, a total neocon cunt, is placing a bunch of his pals in Romney’s inner circle. I’m hoping Romney will reckognize that. If he goes against them though, he will probably get the JFK treatment.
Look up one thing if any of you get a chance…
search Neocon and Trotsky. It’ll open your eyes.
Starting a war with Iran is unacceptable. The people in this country will revolt, myself included.
Game on soon once the USD collapses. Military already patrolling in some cities (against the law).
I have personally had conversations with countless active duties in MIL and LEO. We have the majority on our side when the SHTF. They will not be able to defeat us. Period!!
Screw the globalists. When / if the war starts domestically, we are going to bring it right to their front porches; not gonna fight their minions locally, not this time. It’s game over for them before it even starts. God willing, of course.
I apologize; I tried to post this the other day but failed to be able to do so.
“UM: What happens right after the election? If Obama loses?
WHI: Riots.
UM: And if Obama wins?
WHI: Riots.
UM: So why does it matter?
WHI: Because one will be temporary…the other…if Obama wins…it all becomes permanent. The country is done – at least as anything we will recognize.”
Ulsterman, WHI is likely wrong here:
First, Jarret is confident of Obama’s re-election because of the supranational/UN affiliate conscripted to observe the US Election polls across much of the United States in the name of observing Conservative Election fraud and intimidation. So, if Romney wins, the riots are likely aimed at enabling Jarret and Obamas to declare a state of emergency and implement soft or hard martial law with DHS directives and Continuity of Government:
A). Various Federal branches have made massive purchases of weapons and ammunition particularly ammo that has no business for target shooting and agencies who largely have no real purpose possessing them.
B). The first young FEMA Corps graduated last month who will be deployed into the specifications in the not so distant future. And, Hurricane Sandy already has allowed various ‘troops/guardsmen’ to act as the areas Election Booths.
C). The divide between Republican-Democrat, Right/Left, Conservative/Liberal, and etc have gotten expensive. 1). The right and left respectively believe that the government would be more efficient if there was 1 political party controlling the House and Senate of Congress, the Judicial, and Executive Branches. 2). Both the right and left would also be willing to seek to remove the other from not only governance but also the country. 3). Republican/Democrat and Conservative/Liberal dynamics have gotten so severe aspects of people’s lives outside political discussion have been included in decision making such as romance.
If Romney wins, the riots will not be temporary because the turmoil enables Jarret to remain as the defacto President as long as the emergence and martial law in particular persists. Considering, this has also extended outside of the US by conscripting outside observers; the riots have a cover story for them. All it would take is to name Conservative fraud and intimidation at polling places by the supranational institution. Judging by the harbinger rhetoric, I would surmise that the intimidation occurred against Africa-Americans enabling Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and above all the New Black Panther Party to mobilize massive riots and calls for Obama/Biden thus Jarret to carry out justice through exercising Executive Authority, which the Administration has used when Congress failed to act for a desired legislation.
2). If Obama wins, any riots will likely be staged or actually a protest enabling the Administration to use a softer iron first by removing political rivals, political dissidents, and others deemed threats to their reign. This would be aimed to force a confrontation with their opponents.
bill o’rights
November 2, 2012 at 1:48 pm
“The administration has to quiet the Benghazi fiasco, because it strikes such a blow to the White House narrative that the real terrorist threats have shifted from abroad to the domestic front.
DHS’, NSA’s, FBI’s and even FEMA’s massive shift to focusing on ‘Domestic Terror’, is exactly what it appears to be…an epic effort to destroy the state’s sovereignty and assert centralized control on U.S. citizens.”
It’s also precisely why I disagree with WHI in regards to the riots.
1). Romney wins=massive riots aimed at keeping the Obama Administration in office and by defacto Jarret.
2). Obama wins=protests or staged riots to justify seeking and removing political rivals, dissidents, and/or opponents securing his position.