A brief phone message has been received from RI, who not only agreed I publish a portion of our conversation – but insisted on it…
RI: The general opened up the…the “can of worms” this morning. We now have a four star general and CIA Director letting lawmakers know that there was serious alterations to the CIA summary of the Benghazi attack. All references to it being a terrorist attack were…they were removed from the original CIA document. Now I am left asking where is that original document. If that was provided by the general, and it’s being reviewed by the committee, then that committee has no choice but to go right back to the White House and ask…it’s the two questions everybody is already asking right now. I’ve been hearing it all morning and afternoon now. WHY was it changed? WHO changed it?
UM: Who would have the authority to do that? To alter the CIA Director’s assessment, right?
RI: Exactly – exactly. Who could do that? Has to be high up. Administration. And whoever did that, how…who would do that without the president’s stamp? Without his approval? Now I was…I heard from a staffer…they said it was the campaign. The campaign reviewed it and changed it and sent Rice out onto the Sunday news shows. That sounds…well, it’s outrageous. But…it…all of the campaigning the president was doing…has been…he’s been at it for over two years. The campaing has always been his priority. So…so maybe that’s possible. Now that’s not a minor point here. If national security…the death of an ambassador and three other Americans…now if that…(inaudible)…so if there was a decision from the campaign, then…well…I’ll say it. That could be cause for impeachment. The president would be in violation of his oath. At least it’s how I understand it.
UM: Impeachment? Is that really possible?
RI: Don’t use…don’t latch onto that term. I’m not saying it’s likely or even possible. I don’t have all the specifics of exactly what went on in the hearing. I can tell you the place is buzzing. I can tell you there are staffers…King’s office…they are really getting pretty fired up on this. They needed Petraeus to give them something and apparently that’s what the general did. Oh! And over at…ummm…McCain. He’s fired up about this too. He did not like being called out by the president the other day. So maybe he’s going to…you know the Senate…they always take so long and the Republicans up there…(inaudible) so cautious. But (inaudible) …and so maybe we are seeing some real momentum on this. The Feinstein office has sent out feelers too. Staffers talking amongst themselves. This is all good news for those of us who want to see some real accountability for what happened, but…I want to stress again that…that you can’t get your hopes up. These people…it’s not that they don’t care…(inaudible)…bad people. It’s just how it works. If someone gets spooked, or a deal can be made, that’s what happens. I don’t like it, but I have to work in reality and not how I wish things were. You get that?
UM: Yeah – I understand that better than I used to. Understood.
RI: Here is…umm…there is something you can do. Your readers can do…everyone you know of. If people want to possibly change the outcome…or the discussion…they have to use this new media to do it. You have to understand that the Obama White House has hundreds of people…all they do is post and comment and try to push their version. They…what it is…it’s a whole program to either direct the news coverage, or give media the excuse that they are just reporting on…or reflecting the public opinion. So what we need to do…(inaudible)…of what I already talked about. We need to get ahead of this new media thing…all of us. Republicans. Conservatives…whatever. Congressman Paul talked about it the other day…he was right about that. 100%. So everyone needs to go out there and post their comments. Make the media know we are more…ummm…we are paying attention now. And so…they need to cover what…the stories that we are commenting on. Use basic economics on them. Just go all out and overwhelm the comments sections of these stories. Share the truth. And demand…demand more of the truth. And demand that they start…they need to ask this White House real questions now. Can you do that? Can they do that? Petraeus gave us an opportunity – now we need all of your help.
UM: I’ll do my best. Just like you – can’t promise anything. But you’re right…people are…after the election they were pissed. Now they’re…I think they’re ready to fight again. So, we’ll do our best.
RI: If everyone gets on the same page with this…after today…we’ll see how the weekend news programs go…next week we might really crack this thing open.
UM: Could Boehner…will he shut it down? I don’t trust him anymore.
RI: (Pause) …I don’t like to talk poorly about another Republican…
UM: But…
RI: (Pause)…but ummm…you might be right on that one. He’s not…hasn’t been…reliable for us. Hoping he’ll surprise us..but yeah…hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.
END CONVERSATION
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Hmmmmm.
Voter Fraud or Benghazi?
A little help here, everyone. Right now, I’m leaning voter fraud. Thoughts?
Me too – massive fraud
Both!
Oh what a tangled web we weave…
When we put a jihadi in the Oval Office.
Speaking of “jihadi” – if you haven’t seen it yet, check out my post on previous “Scandal” thread. Check out info on JILL KELLEY/Muslims/CENTCOM:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/56333/jill-kelley-helped-muslim-nations-hezbollahs-lebanon-infiltrate-central-command-macdill-base-go-to-girl-for-muslim-parties-w-generals/
While the article might be true, I would not touch anything related to that @itch-Debbie Schlussel.
Despicable person…
Don’t know Schlussel personally, but I too would be careful with info she’s putting out on her blog.
My previous comments on other threads weave together a troubling picture of whole Kelley affair, including fact that she is of Lebanese descent, and that terrorist supporter/fundraiser Sami Al-Arian also operated freely in Tampa, which is home to CENTCOM.
I can’t make the leap at this time to call Kelley an agent of influence of a specific country or group of countries. Would note for the record that if she were such an agent, and as successful as she had been at penetrating CENTCOM hierarchy, I don’t understand how she could be in such dire financial straits. Such agents are traditionally well paid for their services, and reimbursed for social expenses as well.
Yeah – don’t know a thing about her – first time I’ve heard of her. But I would think one could find out if what she reported about Jill is true or not, if one was really interested. Right?
While you may not care for her she has pretty good info. She was THE FIRST to find the info on jugears’ fake selective service card. Orly Taitz has been using that info the she found and it was also verified by the Cold Case Possee.
Debbie Schlussel is a fine woman and a patriot. Do not label her with vile names. Reserve those names for the women in Obama’s administration. Debbie exposed O’s Selective service registration card. She also exposed Hezbollah/Hamas money laundering and cigarette smuggling ops and car rebirthing ops right here in the US -the proceeds going to support terrorism. So lay off Debbie Schlussel. She is a mensch.
I just read “About Debbie” on her blog site (http://www.debbieschlussel.com/bio/). Unless it’s a total fabrication, I’m curious to know why you see her as “despicable.”
I personally believe they knew of the affair and used it to force Patraeus to do their bidding. Something woke him up to the reality of what he’d gotten himself into — maybe it was the blood on the ground of soldiers he could very well have once commanded, I don’t know. But I believe once he realized what was going on, he grew a pair and confronted his demons, confessed to his wife and the world and then punked Zero on national TV by resigning and saying WHY!
We don’t know but anything is plausible. Who changed the narrative for Susan “She’s so fragile” Rice? Valerie I bet. Either way, I will spread this out as much as I can. Pound on it as much as I can to friends and others.
Thank you UM & RI
The fact that the administration had something on the General that they held until it was useful brings up another point.
WHAT DO THEY HAVE ON JUSTICE ROBERTS???????
Apparently, the Supreme Court will have to rule again on some aspects of Obamacare makes me wonder if Roberts will cave in again.
Two-pronged attack?
This “I don’t like to talk poorly about another Republican” bullshit is asinine. Grow a pair, RI. Your party is dead. Check the election results. Seek the truth with principles — conservative principles.
Everyone get on their tweets…if you don’t have one, GET ONE, get the word out, email, text…DO IT
Republican Insider
It is dificult to believe that the republican party is serious about doing anything to stop what this administration is doing, when all you need do is expose what has and is happening in Chicago.
If the repulican party continues to ignore Chicago they are complicit and the dog and pony show will continue.
Show us something and call for accountability and expose what is really going on in Chicago where Crime Inc has there World Headquarters and the Muslim Brotherhood set up shop with no worries.
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/
B’OR-not sure what your question is.
My questions though are 1) Who (and why) refused the extra requested security in Benghazi?
2) Who (and why) gave the stand down order when help was requested 3-4 times?
3) Why were Gens Ham and Gauotte(?) replaced?
4) Where is the original testimony from Petraeus? You know there is a transcript and video tape.
5) Where is the original document showing the talking points. You know there is at a minimum an electronic copy and most likely a hard copy.
These last 2 questions can be answered in a matter of minutes. Hey secretary person, get me the transcript from the testimony of such and such date and then get me the paper copy of the talking points. Thanks.
There is much, Much, MUCH more here than meets the eye. It is not merely a matter of trying to keep terrorism out of the conversation. That is only the middle of the story. A by-product if you will. We cannot concentrate soley on this. Why have we not heard any outrage from any of the committees about questions 1, 2 and 3? There was the house hearing yesterday regarding security but I watched it and it did not seem to get much accomplished. It seemed to be mostly about policy. This goes way back farther considering who Jill Kelley is and not-with-standing the gun/drug running that was going on.
SallyAl,
I agree with everything you’ve said. For that reason, I’m inclined to believe the Congressional hearings are Kabuki.
Besides, given the GOP leadership in Congress:
1) Will Obama be impeached? No.
2) If Obama is impeached, will he be forced to step down? No.
My pet Chihuahua has bigger cajones than these idiots.
Not that the voter fraud issue is any guarantee either, but if disillusioned democrats can team up with us, we could be an unstoppable force.
By my estimation, proof of widespread voter fraud provides a greater likelihood of removing Obama fronm office.
I just think congridiots have kind of taken their eye off the ball. To me, the original and BIGGEST problems are the 1st 2 questions which LED to the lying part. That to me is secondary.
Hell, think I’ll go home and drink. (Is alcoholism treated under ojugearscare?)
Rush went nasty this afternoon with “people” talking of gun-running and ambassador kidnaping. Called them fringe nuts conspiracy.
That tells me the fix is in already. Security denied for months, Presence of the Ambassador at that precise location that day. Attack on that little obscure consultate on the 9/11 anniversary no less: Nothing to see there folks, Moving on….
Already this is not about the truth anymore. Who care that the Israelis are now saying the weapons fired at them are most likely coming from Gadafi piles.
Gun running to Al Quaeda. Fringe nuts conspiracy….
The Boehner and co will settle for getting Rice out of the DoS seat quite confident they did a very good job. OHOHOH Merry Xmas every body!
Time to dig in.
Well, I agree on: Boehner won’t help (will probably fight it – he is a HUGE PROBLEM and HINDRANCE – WHY was he re-elected????!!!!!), new media, you have to work with “how it is”, prepare for the worst, hope for the best. But….. don’t know about all this w/Petraeus being our answer. Heard two attorneys last night saying if you can PROVE Obama LIED, that would be a reason for impeachment. So far, haven’t exactly heard that. Unless it hasn’t leaked yet, haven’t heard WHEN he (and Hillary) knew. Yes, needs to come out about who changed it, but unless that involved Obama personally and can be proven – you don’t have the proof. Just saying he “should have” doesn’t do it. Petraeus just saying he compiled his conclusions and sent them out to the various Depts. – where it seems some “mysterious” person changed them. ????
Am I missing something?
Interesting. I think she’s got a better handle on this than anyone I’ve been reading lately…
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2012/11/analgate-where-obamas-sun-wont-shine.html
http://www.yolohub.com/featured/22-signs-that-voter-fraud-is-wildly-out-of-control-and-the-election-was-a-sham
This Insider is right. We can’t rely on Boehner, or Issa, or conservative pundits, or even the other Insiders. We have to do this ourselves.
The election was stolen. There are more of us than there are of them, and they know it. And they are afraid.
Not only that, Lame Cherry is starting to write in a way that makes sense. Interesting times, indeed.
Except, I just realized that the Lame Cherry soft porn girl pix are making this Christian stumble. I guess you win some and you lose some.
Unfortunately the Repubs have proven time and again that they lack the cojones and the will to do anything about it. This election while maybe not ‘stolen’ (then again, maybe so) has some serious voter fraud issues and is anyone pursuing it? NO. They are afraid they will be made out to be ‘sore losers’ or something. Mitt Romney, while not my first choice, turns out to be an honorable and decent man. They have done nothing but blame and bad mouth him since this debacle of an election. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU.
I cannot wrap my brain around how much stink is coming from this administration and nobody will call them on it! And BTW, Boehner needs to go.
He is a panderer and a disgrace to this party.
Hearing on Hannity w/interview with King & another that was there — it all comes down to whether Obama either lied OR the other people at CIA, etc. were lying/incompetent (meaning they don’t have proof the Pres. lied)—- the only thing clear is that he was incompetent as President if he had that kind of incompetent people in those jobs. Don’t think you impeach on “incompetence”. So again, it goes back to having proof that he knew the truth and purposefully lied. We also need to be concerned about Hillary — as she is planning on running in 2016. Don’t hear a word about her. Need to “nail her” too – or at least. They’re also saying they need to have a different kind of investigating committee – I think that’s what McCain is pushing but don’t think they will. The nightmare saga continues………
And speaking of impeachment — why is it that it rests with THIS one?????
How about the long list of other impeachable unconstitutional things Obama has done ????!!!!!!! Where are the outcries against it when someone has clearly violated their OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION ?????
Where in the world is HILLARY CLINTON?
Anywhere she can be to avoid testifying.
RI,
I am very sorry to say, but the people do not trust the repubics (anymore).
They let us down so many times, in critical times.
I think they just signed their death warrant with this election, by pushing the tea party and conservatives aside and surrendering to the demsheviks and obama.
2010 was just a probation for them, and they failed it.
I just ran across this, and wanted to post it for the UM Army to vet. If true, then why should we bother with RI at all? I do notice that nothing has been said regarding the voter fraud question.
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/
Seriously, if there is any validity to this whatsoever, then I would really like to know why the GOP did not dissolve itself 30 years ago? Why would they do this to the country? Why have they allowed themselves to be totally neutered by the DNC? If you don’t have the balls to stand up for something, then please go sit on an iceflow until a polar bear gets hungry.
Wow, I highly recommend others read Kim’s link (thanks for posting Kim).
This should be investigated by conservative journalists and be the leading story around the country …
Read the info at the link and it’s appalling. But, it only says that the REPUBLICAN PARTY cannot raise a challenge. I didn’t read anything that says some other group or some individual not affiliated or under color of the Republican party cannot challenge the vote. Why couldn’t an organization like True the Vote do it?
If this is true, then it goes far in explaining how the occupier of the White House who voted present and had no credentials or accomplishments to speak of was chosen and literally installed with all personal records sealed.
And now he is living the dreams of his father, due to the stupidity and gullibility of others at our expense of course.
Kim and Shain-see my reply below. Don’t know how it got down there.
Yes – As SALLY says, this was posted a couple of weeks ago or so and I’ve tried to post it everywhere. Seems it’s getting around good. Please spread the word about this guys.
UM – this might be a MUST to send RI…….let him/her take that to their meetings. And, you might prepare them to not be surprised when their donations go way down…..
It is highly doubtful this is going to get very far. It will be just like the other countless inquiries, investigations, commissions, committees, congressional meetings, probes, and of course hearings that always lead to nowhere. With so little integrity anymore it will be up to the true patriots to rescue America and take it back from our lawless leaders.
RI is very naive to believe that any action by citizens is going to influence the LSM. Just look what they did — with the help of several RINOs I might add — to the Tea Party movement and to Sarah Palin …
Impeachment? If the spineless GOP House “leadership” were ever going to impeach Obama it would have already been done two years ago. You can give up on that pipe dream.
Ah, gotta love the naysayers and cynics.
Every fight is worth fighting, and this is liberty’s best chance yet.
Maybe nothing comes of it like everything else Obama gets away with.
But maybe something does. Maybe something does.
May God be with us in standing for justice and truth.
“… and this is liberty’s best chance yet.”
I may be a naysayer and cynic, but at least not delusional … liberty’s best chance yet — for the entire human race — was in 1776, and it’s been all downhill from there.
Don’t forget over 100 million individuals were killed throughout the 20th century as a direct result of statism. So much for individuals’ rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness …
By the way, I would still want to hear from the WHI and the WSI.
A lost battle doesn’t mean a lost war.
Not yet, at least.
That’s right – I thought that too. This re-election was a HUGE lost battle and setback – not the end of the war. Review Valley Forge……
Kim-yes this is true. Truth&Justice and I have been commenting on it. The case was recently relitigated and updated case/opinion/outcome can be found here:
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca3/09-4615/09-4615-2012-03-08.html
It is not TOTALLY hopeless but we really are backed into a corner.
I just read the whole thing. I am so furious I cannot express it with words.
The fastest way out of this is creating a third party and fast. The RNC is rotten to the core. I do not think there is any hope or help coming from them.
If you haven’t yet…read this one too that was posted previously:
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/
Yes, I’m afraid I agree and have been saying this “discovery” is a big deal.
And, the other reason is they won’t even if they could – as proven by this last election (it would point back to THEIR guilt in the past also).
And, if they really wanted to somehow, couldn’t they have helped OTHERS to do it (so as not to implicate them)?
It really looks like it’s pointing to THIRD PARTY but everytime I mention it people knock it down saying it’s a waste, wouldn’t work, etc. Not so fast – that was the past – MAYBE not this time. It is unrealistic to expect the GOP Establishment to all of sudden change in time. We have very little time left.
Just heard on NBC News that there is a new explanation from the White House on why Rice gave the incorrect info she did to all those talk shows. The White House is now saying that that Rice couldn’t talk about what was in the official CIA report because it was marked “CONFIDENTIAL”. I cant find anything on the internet about it yet, but that’s what the White House is putting out there now. Just saw it about 5 min ago. Some talking head from the White House was on camera defending Rice, saying she couldn’t talk about what what in the report, and that she did the best she could blah blah blah…
That line of defense was planted by Obama just after the Crowney debate. He had a talk with one of the audience member (I believe it was the plant who asked him THE question about Benghazi) after the debate and “apologized not to have been able to say more, because it was classified”.
The plant of course was happy to share this with the Lame Media.
Then she should have stayed home and kept her damn big mouth shut!! A lie is a lie. Rice is a liar. Another stupid woman doing Obamas sh@t shoveling for payola. I saw her on TV that Sunday. She was glib, smooth and conceding and she was hammering home the party lie. May they all go down together…and to you who scream racism at the drop of a hat,STFU!
Condescending, not conceding.
We know who changed it.
Valerie Jarret.
And we know why.
Because Jarret and Obama support and may even be covert radical islamists.
And we also know.
Government and media officials are committing treason, organized crime and providing the material support of terrorism against US Citizens.
James Clapper could have also redacted the CIA report. Or maybe even Panetta at the WH request.
If this consent decree was between the DNC and RNC then as I see it there are some solutions:
1. The judge dies.Somehow.Can another judge continue extending this judgement?
2. Another political party is formed and thus is not a signatory to this judgement
3. There are now 30 GOP governors who can and MUST legislate for voter ID at all elections. Please contact your state governor and make him/her aware of this judgement and start a petition in every one of those states to institute laws requiring voter ID in that state.
4. Get every state’s AG(where they are GOP) to petition the Supreme Court the overturn this judgement.
ASK the GOP Insider on this page to start getting the ball rolling, meanwhile contact your GOP governors, send a petition.
I REALLY think this is a BIG DEAL. I got this reply from a post elsewhere:
“There are sixty million voters who support the Republican Party, the Tea Party and various conservative groups. Get the information about electon fraud and polarize these voters. Refuse to accept this consent decree.”
THIS issue is what we need to get out on new media !!
Here’s a tip –
Bring up Dalia Mogahed and Huma Abedin.
RI:
With all due respect, I do not think you have a good comprehension of the situation on the grounds.
We are not your army, our representants are ours!
And Mitt (may have) lost the elections, but the republicsn party lost its members.
Right now, you all have absolutely no credibility in our eyes. NONE.
Why? Because you have accepted the Obama version of the election results, when it is becoming more and more evident with each hour passing, that the results were not at all correct, and I am restraining my language here!
As it is, the nation is on the verge of a major shift and you are one more time asleep at the wheel. That hundreds of thousands of people sign petitions for cessession does not seems to affect you that much.
But this is not entertainment! This is real. People have had enough of this.
Do you understand that accepting this defeat version is probably the end of the Republican party?
Why, yes why would I take any of my time to go vote if my vote means nothing, if it can be changed on demand?
Look at what happened in California. Republicans stayed home. Because voting is no use for them.
This is the model for 2014. Republicans staying home in masse.
Wake up.
OK! Since we ve pretty much established that the citizens are on our own, lets try this. Use the same White House petition site that the sucession groups did, only this time to vote for impeachment of obama. Then start another one and another one on every issue that is important to us. Let 60 million voices have the .op.portunity to be heard. The thugs will be pooping in their depends all over the West Wing.
@ NameBM
Excellent comment!!
Every day we are hearing about new “Voter Fraud” that took place across the country!!
The Republican party needs to man up & fight this “Voter Fraud”… You can’t let them drive a truck over us. Then back up & drive over us again while we let them get away with it!!
FIGHT DAMIT!! AMERICA needs help Now!!
Impeachment? It’s an obvious impeachable offense at the very least, supplying Al-Queda with arms is treasonous. Now, in a lawful society, Obama would be sitting in a jail cell, but nothing will happen here. Boehner, Cantor are on the 2 heads of 1 snake establishment. They will do absolutely nothing. Prepare for the worst RI mentioned, I’ve done that since the first day the entire Congress turned a blind eye towards Barry’s ineligibility and Arpaio’s investigation. We have no representation in DC any longer.
“Now, in a lawful society, Obama would be sitting in a jail cell”
I believe the Constitution calls for another type of punishment for treason.
Liking this insider more and more. Sent out the word to my 200+ FB friends. I read someting yesterday that said about 3 million republicans didn’t get out and vote from the 2008 numbers. There was only needed 400,000 more votes in four swing states and it would have been president Romney. Voters got lazy and Obama voters took this election. There was probably some fraud but if we would have got out and voted it would not mattered. So time to suck it up and get with the program. If you are not a socialist progresive dork, then join up and call yourself republican. No more backstabbing time. Lets roll America.
Big Red Dog,
the 3 million number is false. It was an early estimation which has now be readjusted to 1.8. with most of them in California.
Do not fall for the “explanation line”. The Reps did come out in force. Romney got more votes than McCain overall.
Yet if you accept this, results do not compute and fraud has to be talked about.
This is what the “Reps stayed home line” is about. Fraud cover-up.
Does this directive make anyone else uneasy, particularly given the Paul reference? “Republicans, Conservatives, whatever”
It’s one thing to leak information as an unknown source. It’s another to give orders.
My thoughts exactly.
It troubles me that the lack of rapport seems immaterial.
Furthermore, those of us outside the Beltway have adopted a big picture paradigm. Those at the epicenter, though, are preaching a small picture narrative.
I don’t believe RI is trying to capture the hearts and minds of GOP leadership.
I believe RI is SERVING the hearts and minds of GOP leadership.
Having now read through the Consent Decree signed by the GOP, etc., I now part with the GOP.
As of now, I no longer wish to belong to any club that would have me as a member (sorry for the poor paraphrasing, Groucho).
I only wish to be a patriot who serves this dying nation.
Pretty much in agreement. I have a R next to my name on the voting list, but that is the extend of my affiliation to the GOP.
I cannot stand the sight of most of them. Boehner and Graham are at the top of my list. Tune off immediately went they speak.
I am going to do things very differently from now on. I will attach my efforts to local candidates I respect.
The national figures will not have my votes unless they really battle and succeed in changing the vote counting procedures.
I would like to see manual count to be the only base for certificstion numbers. And such manual count should be done in public or at least under the watchful eyes of polls watchers.
Voter fraud = too many voters v. Number of registered voters, rigged machines at polling places, and ultimately, ALL results are reported ELECTRONICALLY…another opportunity to pervert the vote count. All three areas to cheat must be corrected for us to have a fair election.
Down with all forms of voting except PAPER BALLOTS AND PURPLE FINGERS!
There are states that allow email voting; voting by mail; early voting etc.
Where are the military votes?? It is beyond shameful that many of these are not counted!
How do we implement the above?
Think I agree with those like NameBM. Hearing more and more about giving up on GOP. My opinion STILL is our loss was b/c of unprecedented massive voter fraud – a combination of Voter ID and corrupt software in the machines. Think we won the 2010 elections b/c it was more “honest” — we caught them off guard and they messed up – but they learned their lessons and perfected it for 2012. They risked it being “obvious” b/c it was worth the risk at this time plus they knew about the “consent” deal we’ve been talking about. People like True the Vote tried their best but I don’t think they were aware of the enormity of the problem with the corrupt software in the machines.
Another reason they don’t want to investigate the fraud issue is b/c it would lead back to THEM as they committed fraud in the past to win also.
Agree about maybe another organization like True the Vote could investigate and fix the machine problem?? We might have one more chance, with God’s help, in the 2014 elections IF we get those fixed. Many will still come out for that to try and get good people in the Senate and keep the House in order to get some bills passed that will help us survive until 2016 – together with what the states do. Hopefully, they will then get rid of Boehner and Cantor & replace with more of a Consv.???? Yes, I know – it will take miracles. But I haven’t given up on those….yet. Unfortunately, think it’ll take some “just” disastrous things first to happen and a “revival” (spiritually speaking)in order to be blessed by them.
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Republicans are mute on the issue for one reason only; they used the same fraudulent tactics in the primaries to get Romney the nomination. If they expose Obama’s cheating, they will be exposed as well. No one is going to say anything about this even though the evidence of massive fraud is rampant.
All of this crap is kabuki theater now. The rabbit hole has no bottom. Both parties are corrupt beyond redemption and both mean to make you a subject once they strip the last vestiges of citizenship from you.
The republic is dead.
THE REPUBLIC ISN’T DEAD!!!
The republic is an idea–a glorious experiment that and isn’t defined by neoclassical architecture in Washington or corrupt politicians.
WE ARE THE REPUBLIC!!!!
And, for the first time since our republic was founded, WE THE PEOPLE understand what it means to be patriotic.
WE THE PEOPLE have been stirred into action!
WE THE PEOPLE have a willingness to save this nation, and the strength to do it!
Well, maybe not the first time…we’re not Michelle Obama after all.
Let me change that to:
“Never in my lifetime have I seen such patriotic spirit!”
You know, if there were mass marches on Washington after the election I might agree with you but there aren’t.
Trying to make a hopelessly fraudulent election process work in your favor or venting your frustrations on Internet threads (something that will be forbidden in the not to distant future I predict) is not the stirring of “We The People”.
It is the equivalent of a fart in a strong wind….
Delude yourself if you want. I see no fire in the people and when there finally is some, tptb will have all the tools they need to crush them…
Both parties have sold us out…
DUMP THE MACHINES! PAPER BALLOTS ONLY.
People…this is Effing KABUKI…wake up…
RI says it was the Campaign…giving complete and utter cover to Obama and his administration….complete legal cover…..this is complete BULLSHIT…..
THat EXCUSE…Gives complete cover to Obama and his administration….Oh oops the campaign stuck their head where it didn’t belong,,,big mistake, oh sorry…excuse excuse excuse…. Calling BULLSHIT ON THIS…..
This OBAMA administration is the only .only one that could have ….and did give talking points ….and gave directions to The UN AMBASSADOR, Susan Rice, to go forth and to LIE…
Saying the campaign did it is a get-out-of -jail-free card…that excuse rejects culpability…,and no responsibility is assigned to the Obama’s administration….
PATHETIC
I call the RI as being either stupid or a fraud…until something of consequence is brough forward by him…So far pablum…and excuses for a corrupt administration….RI saying it is the campaign is just exactly the excuse the Obama would love to sell….Anyone else want to provide cover for Obama?
Wondered what happened to you, ATB. Figured you weren’t enthralled with RI.
Looks like we lost VTX and St. Obeline? Welcome back. Think GOP are going to be in for some great big surprises in the near future, one way or the other. Who knows – they might have wanted to lose so they could then have excuses to “compromise” more and please the “powers that be” intentions for their NWO.??
ATB,
Wholeheartedly agree.
T&J, I respectfully disagree that we have a chance in 2014, as things now stand.
The fact is:
If, when weeding, you leave the root, it will grow back.
We must take real action before it is too late. Remember, the Obama administration has the ‘authority’ to pull the plug on our greatest resource, the Internet, at will. We must use it while we still can to ORGANIZE, not out-pontificate the trolls on Huff-Post.
The administration is chopping the heads off the last saving grace we have (the military) before the responsibility lies squarely on each and every one of our shoulders.
My instincts tell me we have very little time, but the establishment’s fear of what lies behind those secession petitions should be used to our advantage.
Do not forget that the administration vowed revenge, should Obama win reelection (How f-cked up is that?).
No more p-ssyfooting around!!!
Let’s ORGANIZE!!!!
ATB, totally agree. You are usually a voice of reason. Bill, agree with you too.
This RI is just another establishment GOP. As said by someone above, RI expects US to be the Army? YOU, RI, are charged with carrying out the wishes of the people you represent. YOU have the power that can get things done. That’s not to say that individual citizens are powerless, but lately that’s how it feels to many of us.
RI, if you expect us to do your bidding, don’t you think its time for you and your cronies to do OUR bidding? If you don’t have this mindset, you don’t belong in office. Sounds to me like you are saying “I’m too afraid to risk my own reputation and put my job in jeopardy, so all you little people need to get out and do my job for me, just so I can save face, and win votes.”
If people knew who you really are, and how cowardly you sound, they would not vote for you. UM, find someone else to give us inside info. This insider is toast.
Keeping an occasional eye on this site and am, quite frankly, reeling in disbelief.
No St. Obeline here.
Call me Obeline, the Evil if you wish . . .
Election over and Insiders just totally disappear?
Ulsterman immediately offers old, recycled content for SALE?
(green tinted background to post-election content noted, a$ well)
New insider appears as Santa Claus? Come sit on my knees, kiddies, and ask me anything . . . because the Great, All-knowing Oz will tell you everything?
ATB posted this after the election and it was, perhaps, a masterstroke of insight:
“Was this simply a Cass Sunstein re- education Center ??? To manage us into the election? Where all insiders then wafted quietly away?? Best be considered…when people tell you who they are…believe them…WHI I’ve done things in my life….”
WSI same short hurried goodbye….And don’t let the door hit you the ass suckers…
”
“About the Ulsterman: Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence. -G. Washington . . .”
Indeed.
WHO IS ULSTERMAN?
Note to Lame Cherry: What do YOU really know?
Well welcome back! OK – won’t call you St. Obeline anymore – but you said it had a nice ring to it! LOL But I won’t call you Obeline the Evil either, even if you want me too – ha!
Yeah – no surprise – figured you too were disgusted and not exactly happy about RI. And yes, I too, have the same questions you mentioned at the end.
Truth is we really don’t know. And my question about LC’s revelations — why is he/she “revealing” these “secrets” on the internet where they are seen by the “enemy” & therefore know better what and how to prevent and plan?
Same thoughts have been on my mind. Nothing evil about it either Ob.
@Obeline (November 17, 2012 at 3:24 pm)
Obeline, I didn’t see your post earlier, am glad I didn’t miss it altogether.
I, too, wondered, and still wonder, about this site’s post election commercialism. Is that $$$ goal the reason UM never posted a SIMPLE INDEX of links to prior articles . . . despite our multiple requests?
I fully understand UM’s desire to earn some wages for his years of providing so much information for free. I am deeply grateful to UM for his labors and for risking his life in so doing. But to deny us an index when we NEEDED it and it might have HELPED our insight?
That leaves a bad taste.
I also wonder why the box around each article now. The site’s elegant simplicity is gone and creeping clutter is entering.
About Debbie Schlussel
I think those of you who are dubious about her have confused her name with that of Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
I was thinking the same thing.
Possible confusion between Debbie Schlussel and the Moonbat.
Folks,
I do not want to look conspiratorial here, but strange things are happening, like the re-emergence of censorship for certain people/topics, and the insiders appearing and disappearing like a rabid in a hat.
I think the question is how we organize safely to be able to mount a credible and effective resistance to the thyrrany emerging since 2008.
The GOP is lost, posting on blogs has minimal effect-preaching to the choir.
Ideas are welcomed.
Hmmm….I was wondering where Michelle Bachmann went. Note this:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/bachmann-weve-got-more-benghazi-questions/
Any hope ??????
I’m going to post this again, for the benefit of any Democrats reading this blog:
http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/contact.htm
Obeline. Yes to everything you posted. The quick disappearance of the insiders, the immediate appearance of a “new” insider are suspicious.
I also noticed a sudden influx of very enthusiastic new posters wanting to work with RI. One said she had been trying to post for a year and was glad to be able to post now. I also noticed a lot of new ads. The site changed after the election. A lot.
If this is a way to find out what we’re thinking and to keep us as Republicans or at least voting Republican, it’s not working for me. I’ve been a Republican all my life. But I’m done with the party.
Agreed. Most of us regulars seem not real thrilled with what “RI” has had to say while all the time “RI” (intentional quotation marks)makes apologies and tells us that s/he is only being honest even if it is not what we want to hear. We do want the truth but this just does not add up. I have also noted all the new posters and in fact started to comment on it a few times but always get sidetracked.
@ Holly (November 17, 2012 at 4:47 pm)
The reader’s claim that she was ‘trying to post for a year’ here is way, way too hyperbolic to be true. What impulse kept urging her to try and try and try again, and what suddenly enlightened her after 365 consecutive days of failure?
It is incontrovertibly true that posts here have been disappearing. Two of mine, both replies to bill o’rights, were deleted — the first a while after I wrote it and the second was deleted before it saw daylight (I caught the post number in the URL). Curiously, both of those posts were negative about RI.
When OPINIONS get CENSORED — like I’ve observed also at Lucianne.com — what do those respective censorships suggest?!
I sorely miss WHI and WSI. Those two were PASSIONATE for our country’s survival. They labored unflaggingly and with utmost tenacity to bring America back from the abyss.
Seems the only thing that is really CLEAR at this time is that we all need to do everything we can re this VOTER FRAUD. I can’t say it enough. If we don’t, forget it. They will just use it to win in all future elections – IF we continue having them. I figure we’ll either have them and they will use their successful voter fraud to win or concoct some false flag to suspend them.
We are ALREADY under their oppressive “rule” of tyranny. They already made their first “coup” invasion when Obama was elected in 2008. The enemy took their first big decisive battle win over America then & took over.
Surely the GOP “powers that be” knew about the corrupt software in the machines????? If they couldn’t do the fraud prevention, why couldn’t they have helped others to do it somehow (or at least get that warning out) – like True the Vote? Or is that too far out? The more I think about it, the worse it seems to appear.
I agree that voter fraud needs to be the primary focus, but we need to be working on plan B simultaneously. Not enough time to do otherwise.
If my instincts are correct, we are headed into a ‘Night of the Thousand Knives’ scenario at warp speed.
Posting on newer thread hit a nerve, eh?
Immediately disappeared.
Question who Bill o’rights is . . .
What do you mean?
??????
Seriously though, what happened? What are you saying?
And now, nearly the whole thread of our conversation just now is gone.
Tell me what’s going on! What did you see? What happened?
Yeah, isn’t this strange? That kind of thing has happened before here though – never did figure it out. Someone said it could be when “whoever” is deleting objectionable comments, it takes out the others b/c of the proximity – something like that – don’t know – I don’t know anything on that subject.
Anyway, I replied to your last remark about what mystery — I meant I had no idea what Obeline meant either – just as you don’t.
Things are getting very weird.
I really want to share more, and remove all doubt. I again make the offer to contact me.
Folks,
I do not want to look conspiratorial here, but strange things are happening, like the re-emergence of censorship for certain people/topics, and the insiders appearing and disappearing like a rabid in a hat.
I think the question is how we organize safely to be able to mount a credible and effective resistance to the thyrrany emerging since 2008.
The GOP is lost, posting on blogs has minimal effect-preaching to the choir.
Ideas are welcomed.
Posted on the wrong thread. By the way I knew who Debbie is. I even posted on her site several times many moons ago. I stand by what said about her.
So, RI needs our help? No kidding?
Well, RI, we’re not your little dancing monkeys.
You reserve the right to wait and see what the “investigations” turn up on Benghazi, yet meanwhile you “need’ us to spread the word or whatever about Barry’s extending Bush tax rates so that we can all look like fools again. Why?
Tool & the Gang intend to raise taxes on everything and trick the Republicans into signing onto such raises by presenting them with offers they can’t refuse/catch-22/untenable positions, all the while blaming the R.s – all the while saying, “Gosh we wanted to give the little people a break, but darnit those Republicans wouldn’t let us.”
(The missives ascribed to RI do not seem to be from the same person either by the way.)
And now you need us help with this ‘opportunity?’ Gross.
Using people, picking their brains, wild goose chases, fools errands, side shows, nonsense = predictive programming.
Hi, AtB, T&J, Obeline, Dusty, TtLG, Billy.
Where’s WerbazNetronName?
VTX, are you really gone? Is it really sayonara?
UM
I think this information is something RI would be interested in…… I am not making this up it was published.
I Faxed this above post to Congressman King yesterday…… We can not hide the fact that some people stated that the :
US was moving heavy weapons to the enemy …al Qeada & Jihadist in Syria!!
Please post my comment!
Thank you!!