Our second full sit down interview with a Republican Insider who is urging those both in and outside of the party to work toward modernizing both the conservative messaging, while remaining true to core conservative values, including a warning that if this is not done – America will be going-going…GONE. Here now is Part One of this interview:
(Can Republicans figure out how to better utilize the new media? Republican Insider says YES.)
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UM: Thank you again for taking the time to speak with me. With us actually – the readers. And thank you for taking the time to answer their questions like you did. That was unexpected and I think, appreciated by a lot of them.
RI: My pleasure – really. No worries there, and happy to do it again…but – there is something I want to say…start this off if it’s ok, about something you wrote this weekend.
UM: What is that?
RI: I don’t think we want to…that you should be writing headlines about – about telling governors to “STFU”. That’s not what I’m about with this. Not one bit. Really – I’m not here to brag or boast or threaten people in my own party. Not on an individual level anyways…ummm…I have issue – have issues with the party. And I’m more than happy to talk about those but…the…I don’t want to make this about going after individuals on a personal level.
UM: But that’s what they did to Mitt Romney, right? They are dumping on him. Going after him.
RI: Right – not saying…I’m not defending them one bit. I agree, what they ummm…what they said. Not how we want to behave as representatives of the Republican Party. It IS exactly how the Democrats like to see us behave though – and so that’s my…that’s my message there. Don’t do it. Can’t control what some governor says – but YOU can control your content. Your headline. Right?
UM: I’m not gonna have you tell me what my headline is going to be. Yeah? Or my content. Or my message. Yeah?
RI: Not at all – certainly. You bet. I’m not doing that. You write what you want to write…but I’m telling you on this particular example…I’m telling you I don’t think it’s a good idea. Letting you know that. You decide what if anything you want to do with the advice…but…well…if that is what you continue to do with the blog…then maybe this isn’t the right place for me. (PAUSE) …And that is not a threat. Nothing like that. Really. Just letting you know that I really…when I say don’t talk about another member of the party…specifically…if it can be helped…then don’t do it. That’s all.
UM: (SIGHS)…I’m not here to just play nice. I consider myself…very respectful of other people’s opinions and views. But…I’m really quite tired of people taking the piss to Mitt Romney. It isn’t right. He’s a good and honorable man, yeah?
RI: Taking the piss?
UM: …it’s a phrase…never mind. Just that…we have people in the party right? In the party unloading on Mitt Romney and on a personal level – I don’t like it. First we have Christie fallin’ in love with Obama after the hurricane – now this? Really? Is that what the Republican Party is about?
RI: Unfortunately, yes…in some ways…yes. And THAT is what I want to talk to you about. THAT is why we are here. I thought so, anyways. I hope so. To talk about the future direction of the party, how to make corrections so we can start winning national elections again. Not so much corrections on our principles, but how we go about messaging those principles, right?
UM: So Mitt Romney losing was all about messaging?
RI: Not entirely – no. We covered some of that before. There was baggage from previous statements he made, there was…heck, he was running against Barack Obama and the media – that’s no easy task for anyone. Period. But that’s what every Republican candidate will be up against, has been up against, for a while now. It’s gotten worse though and 2012 was as bad as it’s ever been. That last press conference? I said we were lucky to get those two questions on Benghazi – but all in all…what a joke, right? The established media – we can’t count on them for anything. Nothing. There is no truth there…or very little of it. So little of it…that’s why what you are doing, what others are doing…every small example adds up to a much bigger picture, right? I believe in this new media. 100% It is how we defeat Democrats. But Republicans have to get with the program on this…they got to get up to speed.
UM: I had a reader forward me an article where an operative was saying that same thing – that the way the Republicans are messaging is so out of date, that the Democrats are years ahead with all of that. (PAUSE)…You have anything to do with that? That article?
RI: (SHRUGS) That’s not important for this conversation. What I do outside of this…that’s public. What we talk about here…that’s why the anonymity is so…it allows a certain level of…or type of conversation that would compromise my ability to keep working out THERE. No different than why it appealed to Insider. Same thing. If you want to earn a buck, you have to find different ways of getting the message out. Not so long ago, there were leaks…ummm…mainstream media types you could sneak that stuff to. Now…I don’t trust those people. And the ones I did are…most of them…they’re already long gone. Pushed out, quit…whatever.
UM: Looks like Allen West lost his recount. Can I get you to come right out and give a position on whether or not this election was stolen? Not the West election – talking the national election. Those precinct numbers that had incredibly high turnout and 99% or even 100% voting for Obama. What…how does that happen? No way. Insider made it very clear – said if Obama wins this election that means he stole it. He took what Democrats had been doing on a smaller scale for years and applied it to several states – on a national scale. That he stole the election. STOLE IT.
RI: You want to know if I agree with that?
UM: Yeah – simple as that. Yes or no.
RI: No.
UM: Explain that.
RI: You asked me to give you a yes or no. There has been no proof, no verifiable proof the election was stolen. I’m not saying it wasn’t possible on some level, but that’s not what you just asked me. You want a yes or a no answer. So without proof – I say no.
UM: What about those ridiculous precinct numbers? 99% voting for Obama?
RI: You’re just giving me numbers – not proof of wrongdoing. Again, do those numbers make me suspicious? Sure. But do I have proof? No. So without that, it’s wasted energy. It’s the kind of wasted energy the Democrats want Republicans to engage in. Chase this ummm…chase this conspiracy and that conspiracy…it’s distraction. While we are off doing that, they are winning elections. THAT is what I’m about here. Winning elections. Not running elections. WINNING elections. If we don’t win elections, we don’t…the country keeps going in the wrong direction. The direction of the Democratic Party. The direction of liberalism. Socialism. Marxism…whatever you want to call it. Whatever label people want to put on it – to me it don’t really matter. I just know it’s the wrong way for America. Absolutely 100% the wrong way for America.
UM: How about another yes or no then?
RI: You might not like the answer.
UM: Well…I think voters are sick and tired of politicians giving them the middle of the road maybe-maybe not type of answer. I know I am. You said the country needed leadership. Leaders don’t sit back and just give middle of the road answers, yeah?
RI: Sure.
UM: So tell me then…Barack Obama. Socialist? Communist? Marxist? Fascist? Democrat? What the hell is he? Because…I don’t know anymore. I don’t know what this guy is.
RI: All we need to know is that he is the President of the United States….and that’s not good. It’s not right. But…he got his second term. We can’t change that. What we can do is get things rolling for 2014 and then 2016. Because I will guarantee you this…the Democrats…they want 2014. They want 2016. They want 2018. They want 2020. They want this country…the ones in charge of the party right now…they want it all. And they scare me. Big time.
UM: I know Obama is president…but…you deal with these people all the time. Politicians. You’ve seen this version or that version…have you ever seen anything like Obama? He’s shutting down new oil production in the western states…he wants another trillion in deficit spending…whatever the hell he was doing in Benghazi…how he openly sh*ts on Israel…the class warfare…how every criticism is sexist or racist…what is he? Have you ever seen anything like this in the United States of America? Because…because I haven’t. I’ve watched liberal Democrats…but Barack Obama…he goes way past “liberal Democrat”.
RI: Your Insider called it right – he’s not Democrat. Not the traditional version. But he is TODAY’S version of a Democrat. Ok? You need to understand that. This isn’t your daddy’s Democratic Party anymore. Then again, it isn’t the same Republican Party either.
UM: The party – Republicans…too moderate?
RI: No – too liberal. Period. Republicans are…during the two Bush terms…Republicans spent more and expanded government more than anything Bill Clinton attempted with the exception of the short lived stab at healthcare reform. Way beyond Clinton. Huge expansion of the federal government under the last Republican president. Obama has just taken the same ball and run with it a little further and a little faster than George W. Bush did. And his father was similar like that too…the Bush family…this is not a personal criticism but strictly a political one here – they embraced big government almost as much as any Democrat before them had.
UM: I don’t agree with that – they don’t compare to LBJ. Medicare. War on poverty. That’s not true what you just said.
RI: Sadly, it is true. Did Lyndon Johnson expand the size and scope of the federal government? Absolutely. But the facts lay it out – so did the Bush presidencies. Higher taxes with one, several wars, more entitlement programs, huge expansion of the foreign aid, the Department of Education, Homeland Security…don’t even get me started on the Patriot Act. You take a bunch of Democrats from say…40 years ago and lay out the two most recent Bush terms…all of the spending and government expansion…I bet at least half of them would call him a communist president.
UM: Wow. That’s harsh. And – how is that not beating up on a fellow Republican? Didn’t you say that’s not what you were about?
RI: First…it’s not harsh. It’s the truth. Second…well…you may have a point there. So I’ll give you that one…but you know what…right now…this conversation. THIS is what needs to be going on inside the party…between conservatives all over the country. This kind of conversation. We need to work this stuff out, come up with as united a vision as possible, and rock and roll in 2014 and beyond.
UM: It’s gonna take a lot more than just people talking.
RI: Hey – people talking. People reading the truth. People thinking about what we agree on instead of always focusing on what we don’t agree on…we need to get an idea of the bigger picture here. Democrats have been dividing Republicans for a long time. That’s why we get these milktoast candidates for office – not just for president…I’m talking races all over the country. The media and the Democrats have beaten down the people who speak out…so…everybody else is scared to death that they might be next. We have Republicans who don’t trust the voters to back them. They just don’t. And…really…can’t blame them for that. Not entirely, because we got a whole lot of so-called conservatives how are lazy, nasty, rude, and I apologize for the term…assh-les. And that’s the honest to God truth…seen it up close and way too personal way too many times. And you know what the media does with those kinds of people? They focus on them and use them to ridicule the party. And they’ve done a real good job of it. Real good.
UM: But people can talk all they want – the politicians are the ones who have to actually do something. And…who is going to step up for us?
RI: NO – stop looking to politicians to solve your problems. That is partly…there were a lot of voters who I think assumed Romney would win. Or…heck I’m not sure what some of them were thinking but I’ve gone over the numbers now…dug into those numbers. You can complain about voting fraud, maybe there was some of that – probably on some level, yes…but overall, the reason Mitt Romney lost was the Obama campaign did a better job than the Romney campaign…and the mainstream media. Your insider called it a long time ago during the primary race…when there was that question about abortion…or contraception…the ABC guy kept repeating the question. That was what – last year, right? They went right out in the open there…total collusion with the Obama campaign. Period. Total collusion and they don’t even bother to really hide it anymore. And it worked. The war on women, war on gays, war on immigrants, war on the poor…the fact is, for the Obama campaign, IT WORKED.
UM: Ok – so what your YOU gonna do about it?
RI: This is part of that. I am working very hard to modernize how the party gets its message out to voters…but…it…we can’t count on…go through the Mainstream Media for most of that…they will muddy the water there. They will confuse the message. So…we use the alternative ummm….the alternative media. All of…blogs…message boards…all of it. It all adds up…millions of voters…millions of people who are talking and sharing ideas, and…if there was just a bit more organization…and if the Republicans respected the potential of how powerful this could all be…the Democrats know. They’ve owned it for…I’d say the last ten years. Owned the new media. Now it’s our turn to get in there and turn the tables. It’s like that radio program I messaged you about…the ummm…
UM: Moretti Report.
RI: Exactly! When…at the point when they were…there was a three or four of them…and they were sharing ideas or making their own points about things…and each one wasn’t necessarily agreeing about everything with the other, right? And I’m listening to this and like I said, I’m shaking my head saying to myself “they get it”. What they were doing there…you can discount it or say it’s not important but I’m telling you – IT IS important. You have to realize how powerful that kind of thing is – it’s…discussion like that…it is what every great movement in this country began with. And that’s what this is about here for me…it’s about the beginning of a new Republican Party. A new conservative movement…we aren’t going to necessarily alter the message of what conservatism really is – but we do need to bring how we get that message out into the 21st Century. Right?
UM: I get what you’re saying – not entirely sold on the premise…meaning not entirely sold on how effective it can be.
RI: It’s fine to be sceptical right now – you’re still disappointed that we lost the election. The White House. I get that. You’re not alone there. Right there with you on that – but my job is to figure out WHY Republicans lost – and a big part of that is we suck at messaging. We do. And until we accept that fact, and then work to improve on it…we are going to keep losing. And it’s going to get worse. The Democrats want to make Republicans irrelevant, to make it just…to appear people have a choice when really…it’s pretty much choosing from the same side of the same coin. No difference…either big government liberalism or maybe a slightly less version of it. And that’s dangerous. That is what…I want Americans to have a real choice. When’s the last real choice election…when have voters really had a choice?
UM: This last election was a real choice. Mitt Romney – Barack Obama? Romney would have made a far better president. Nothing you say is going to change my mind on that.
RI: Ok-ok…right…but the big problem there was a lot of voters didn’t see it that way. Do you understand? And that’s because the Romney campaign didn’t do a good enough job outlining what the choice really was. The Mainstream Media confused voters, helped suppress the vote…then you have the Obama campaign…it had hundreds maybe thousands of operatives slamming the alternative media with their version of things, getting Republicans…conservative voters to fight amongst themselves…it all worked in unison with them. The old media and the new media…they have it down to a science. Barack Obama might be a fool, he might be some created version of liberal perfection…but the people behind his campaign. They are good. Very good at what they do. And they are winning. Not just the election…they are winning the country. All of it. And you can’t tell me you don’t feel that. Right?
UM: I do feel that, yeah. America is…it’s disappearing. I see it. Going-going…gone.
RI: There you go…that’s what’s happening. And if we don’t learn quickly how to change it up…how to get a message out there…how to not demand perfection from a candidate…or to follow every ridiculous controversy or rumor or tin foil hat conspiracy that just divides us up even more…we will lose. Republicans will lose. Conservatism will lose. America will lose. America…America will…it will be just like you said…going-going…GONE.
PART TWO COMING SOON.
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The Man Who Calls Himself Obama Volume III
Is this insider named Karl?
LOL. I think in the first interview last week RI said Karl Rove has got to go. No more Bush people running the GOP message. I agree. Rove sucks. He is making $$$$ off of Republicans losing. Look it up.
I also see that the Jeb Bush name gets tossed around occasionally. If this is what the Republican party intends to put forward, count me out. The Bush name (poor messaging notwithstanding) is a permanent stain on the fabric of American Conservatism and the GOP shot-callers need to understand that from the get go. So I say to the GOP leaders: Don’t do it. Don’t even let me know that you’re even thinking of doing it. And if you don’t get it now, you never will.
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@ UM
I believe you are correct that Obama stole the election.
There are Hundreds of reporting about Voter Fraud.
Just today a FL newspaper stated that Precinct 93 had only 7 registered voters yet 900 Ballots were cast there!!…… That’s Voter Fraud!!
Contact Voterfraud@foxnews.com & get a list of reported Voter Fraud.
The Electoral College vote must be stopped until this Voter Fraud is out in the open!!
Thanks!!
Nu uh! Did not steal it!.. Didn’t you read what RI said. The Dems just did a better job of getting out the vote. S/he said so so it must be true. RI is just continuing the Dem talking points about how so many more voters came out for the jugeared jackass. There was no vote fraud, so there! (sticks toungue out).
RI IS RIGHT!!!! GET RID OF THE KARL ROVES AND BUSH PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND REPUBLICANS ARE LAZY!!!! SOME OF THEM!!!! I KNOW PEOPLE WHO DID NOT VOTE FOR ROMNEY. CALLED HIM MITTENS!!!!!!!!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW OBAMA IS PREZ FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like these converations with RI. He’s not giving us a bunch of conspiracy BS which will probably upset your conspiracy loving readers UM. But I’m getting an idea that this person is very smart. Romney did a horrible ground game and the message was pretty mixed up sometimes. And that hurt the turnout. The election wasn’t stolen IMO. Obama beat Romney. Not by much. But he did win because his ground game was a lot better IMO.
I agree that Romney’s messaging is/was bad and he’s not charismatic like BO… but I do believe there was voter fraud. BO and company are experts at cheating, i.e. winning “by any means necessary,” and they play dirty, absolutely no integrity, IMHO.
Who is paying you to answer, new guy Chance? Nice try with the conspiracy “talk”,,,
Ever READ the Constitution, pal?
This is all BS. Check this out: http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/
I don’t care what RI thinks about voter fraud. I will no longer read any of his crap. Sorry UM, you got a real doozy this time. Bring back WI!
Amen.
The ball-less Pubbies should go ahead and do what they need to do in challenging vote fraud, and let the Dims sue. Bring it all to the surface. Stop acting like wimps and create the circumstances where the Dims’ true intentions have to come to light for all to see. Can they really come out and say that they intend to enforce the decree so that they can commit fraud??
Evil works in the dark. It hates the light. Jesus said that everything that was done in secret would be brought into the light. It’s my constant prayer that this be so. But we have to be wise and serpents and harmless as doves. This takes great wisdom and strategic and tactical planning, and good messaging is part of that.
We must learn how to “paint the picture” for people, appeal to their better natures, and expose how they are being played for their allegiances and votes. It’s a battle for hearts and minds and souls.
It’s a lot more than just a messaging problem. It’s a multiheaded hydra and unfortunately the Republican Party is in many ways complicit.
Sure, the Democrats are a little more “modern” with their messaging. I guess you could put it that way.
But they’re also frightening corrupted, cynical, and downright dangerous. They manipulate, lie, disinform; they practice the dark art of Marxist propaganda; they pit citizen against citizen; they cover up and obscure and obfuscate.
No amount of positive conservative messaging can substitute for what must be done if the country is to be saved – call them out for what they are. And you know what? That starts by calling out fellow Republicans, like the small-minded, foolish governors.
The Republican Party, too many in it, are what…? A few things, actually:
1. Stupid 2. Cliquey 3. Petty 4. Petulant 5. Liars 6. Hypocrites 7. Very Stupid 8. Scared of Democrats 9. Terrified of bad press/the media in general.
Hey RI – CLEAN HOUSE! And don’t leave us with a bunch of nutter Libtertarians either.
You don’t defeat an evil enemy by ignoring him and talking directly to the electorate – not while he’s cutting you down with outrageous accusations. You turn to the voters and say, “Do you hear this liar, this thief , this coward? He’s bankrupting you while stealing your liberties. Not only him but his whole rotten party. There’s a better way, and it requires dropping the divisive attacks on one another based on race, class, and gender, and restoring the Constitutional role of the federal government.” Something to that effect – hire a speechwriter.
Only THAT kind of message will be effective. Nothing less. And once you do it, start exposing the rank corruption across the board, Republican Party included.
Otherwise you risk losing the trust of the electorate for good, and the country.
Oh yeah, one more thing: you say don’t depend on politicians. Unfortunately it’s the politicians with the votes. No choice but to hold them accountable…
Well Randall, for ince I agree with you 100%. Well put.
I don’t know why you don’t agree with me more. I don’t really vary my tone.
Sarah Palin is toast. She just is. Accept it. Whether we like it or not, she ain’t running.
You just described Sarah Palin, and as you may recall the republican party left her hanging out to dry as soon as the left starting flinging feces at her. Any wonder why we ended up with Mittens and the Marxist as our “choices”? (And yes, I did hold my nose and vote for Romney.)
Just ate, now wanting to throw up, Thanks UM!
So basically we need to change minds and they just need to change votes.
The fraud was rempant, not anecdotal. It changed the results. I am firmly convinced Romney did win the elections.
Romney was not a conservative in ideology and was not able to articulate a conservative message with enough energy to win by such a confortable margin that fraud would not have catched up. That’s also true.
But this eating your own flesh has to stop. FRAUD WAS RAMPANT. Ste Lucie is going to certify numbers with over 100% + participation. How is that not a National Security question. We cannot go after revamping the message on fraudulent bases of analysis.
If NOTHING is done to change the way these machines are checked and the way the numbers are counted, I am out. I do not care about message this or message that. I am out.
While we are working on other aspects of this, we need to start a movement to ban voting machines and go to paper ballots. This will have to be done at the state level. If this doesn’t happen, nothing else will.
PAPER BALLOTS; PURPLE FINGERS
You will never convince me that the American people voted for four more years of this disaster. Romney was not my first, second, or fifth choice for the nomination but I would have voted for an empty soup can over Obama.
If you are going to get to the root cause of a problem and actually fix it, you must be honest with yourself about what the cause was by examining the actual data. We are supposed to dismiss the voter fraud and instead blame things on the periphery for this loss and work harder on “messaging”?
I’m sorry here UM but we are flogging a dead pony. If they pulled this off as we think and we just let it go, then we will NEVER win another election and voting is pointless. No amount of “messaging” is going to fix that. Period!
This guy has the Reagan optimism and the stink of the Republican consultancy loserism at the same time.
He makes no damn sense as the two are incompatible…
In my opinion, both parties have rigged the election process and that’s why no one is making anything of this. Romney stole the primaries and then had the general stolen from him in the same way. The game now for the Republicans, is how to steal the next one or it has already been decided that Jeb is gonna win in 2016. Whatever is going on here, it isn’t on the up and up. We’re being made fools of or at least they are attempting to make fools of us and I’m not buying any of it!
“I’ve got no proof of any fraud, just anecdoteds”. Truth be told, you really aren’t looking very hard then are you friend?
So basically Republicans have to actually win by 5% to win by 2%. Is that what I’m getting here? That there is about 2 or 3 % voter fraud that helps out the Democrats? And we just have to sit back and take it?
RI: “Democrats have been dividing Republicans for a long time.”
RI: “… but my job is to figure out WHY Republicans lost – and a big part of that is we suck at messaging.”
While there is some truth in both these statements, the fact of the matter is: (1) RINOs have been far more divisive within the Republican Party. Just look at what the Establishment (Rove, Krauthammer, Noonan, et. al.) did to Sarah Palin. THEY destroyed her candidacy; and (2) we suck at nominating CHARISMATIC LEADERS who present both a consistent conservative track record and consistent (unapologetic, and a full moral defense of a) conservative message — including bypassing the LSM as Reagan did. Again, see Sarah Palin.
The MESSENGER is far more important than, and relevant to, the MESSAGING …
Who is this guy…McCain?
@ rosie:
too funny!!
Until this guy addresses eligibility, of the present occupant of the WH, or of future aspirants, I can’t listen to this blowhard.
When you run against an incumbent, they have the advantage of getting their message out while the other guys have to fight for the top position, so they don’t have the time to fight against the incumbent, but the other guys running in the party. Here is where the party leaders (GOP & DNC) have to get out there and push the party message until one is chosen at the conventions.
Here is what I saw:
1. Too many people running. But, if you’re an American you can run for any office in the land – so the number of people running won’t change, on either side.
2. ALL the debates were moderated by the Democrats. And there were too many.
3. The respective conventions are too close together We as the GOP need to get our candidate out there on the ground faster than we have been doing.
Election fatigue is another problem – and how that is stopped is going to take a massive rule change to a system like Canada has. Frankly, a lot of people checked out before election day. This goes for both sides. I know people who stayed home who voted for O in 2008, but couldn’t vote for Romney (or any Republican for that matter), so stayed home this time. It just wasn’t the idiots in the GOP who stayed home.
Back to #2, why the heck does the GOP allow the Democrats to control the debates? Is it the court decision back in 1982 that prevents us from winning? If it is, WHY THE HECK DOESN’T ANYONE REPORT ON IT!!???? Rush? Hannity? Fox? Somebody!
Until the GOP stops rolling over and submitting to the leftists in this country, we will NEVER win again.
Thanks RI -
Haven’t you learned anything? It’s one party. This is psyop garbage.
A new insider to keep you coming back.
It’s not that they suck at messaging, its they are purposefully rolling over because communist fill both parties.
Until someone comes out and says we are working with the Military and FBI to hold American nuremberg trials against government and media officials participating in organized crime, treason and the material support of terrorism this is all just a dog and pony show to keep you tame.
“…but my job is to figure out WHY Republicans lost – and a big part of that is we suck at messaging. We do.”
R’s don’t suck at messaging. They have no message and can’t articulate conservatism like Reagan could and Palin CAN.
And RI doesn’t think there was voter fraud? Jebus, it’s so blatant that a blind man could see it; he’s dumber than I thought.
BTW, has anyone noticed that RI slips into bad grammar, just like WI used to?
Where did RI say there was no voter fraud? You can’t even read. Wonder why the GOP is so fucked up? Because idiots like you are part of it. And Sarah Palin is no savior. Give me a break. Nice lady, But no way she would win a national campaign. Good Lord no. Grow up. McCain,Palin, Romney. They all were horrible. We need real conservatives who can talk the talk. No more letting the democrats pick our candidates. That is garbage.
Bad grammar is rampant.
“RI: No – too liberal. Period. Republicans are…during the two Bush terms…Republicans spent more and expanded government more than anything Bill Clinton attempted with the exception of the short lived stab at healthcare reform. Way beyond Clinton. Huge expansion of the federal government under the last Republican president. Obama has just taken the same ball and run with it a little further and a little faster than George W. Bush did. And his father was similar like that too…the Bush family…this is not a personal criticism but strictly a political one here – they embraced big government almost as much as any Democrat before them had.”
Most honest and accurate words on the Bush years I have seen in a long time. And RI is right. If you can’t prove something then it doesn’t exist. In the minds of voters anyways so shut the fuck up about it and deal with what you can deal with. The GOP is garbage. It can’t fight back because it can’t fight. The primaries were awful. The choices awful. We better get some real choices in 2016 or America will go over the same cliff the fiscal is.
Great interview by the way UM. Nice back and forth with this RI guy.
No need to attack someone else Yola. I agree that RI did not say there was not voter fraud but you don’t need to be so nasty about it. Part of why I like this forum is because there is a lot less of that kind of disgusting talk than other places.
I can not decide about this new guy. I need more.
Don’t think RI is reading our links or….he is and just won’t accept it (fraud, etc.) Don’t know – but the only things I agreed with is that the Repubs. & Dems. are about the same (yes, right about Bushes), Dems are not what your daddy’s were, too many Repubs. eat their own, and yes, if we don’t get Consvs. in there to run things, we will be…gone.
Unfortunately, RI, no matter how he may be sincere – is just “sincerely wrong” when it comes to knowing the depth of the dangers/intentions of Obamanation, that this is politics as usual in that all we have to do is correct some things and we’re off to maybe winning in the future, thinking we have years and years to do it. This whole thing about not saying anything negative about “fellow Repubs.” is ridiculous – if it’s truths that need to get out for the people to know what’s really going on so we can work at correcting it, it MUST be said. As long as you “protect” them, you are complicit in the corruption and losing America. Again, RI doesn’t get it, even though we’ve put out links to prove our statements about who the “real” Obama is and their intentions, all the unconstitional things that he’s done that aren’t touched – and that they will probably complete their evil agenda to take us down by the end of his next term or quite close to it. WE ARE ABOUT OUT OF TIME as we speak.
He also doesn’t seem to understand how manipulated the party is by the “powers that be” which is hard to understand if that is truly the case.
It is “rigged” RI….already have “their guys” that they have chosen that they can manipulate and it won’t matter one little bit about what we do about messaging, modernizing, etc. That’s what is not realized. It’s so depressing people don’t want to even think about it but you have to. The GOP is NOT EVER going to put a real, effective, strong Consv. in that they will back !!!
That’s probably why you saw West “lose” (fraud). They HATED him…couldn’t afford to have him around – popular too. And the reason you don’t have all the “proof” is b/c they know it is probably very hard to prove electronic fraud. We’ve already shown about how the Repubs. agreed to that horrible “consent” deal. You have to have people w/software expertise on our side that can prevent it next time and/or go in and prove it immediately after if that can be done, better yet — BAN it. But good luck with that. It’s too useful a tool for them to win. Most were blindsided and not ready for it this time, which of course they knew. Now we know. To “poo poo” this is a humongous mistake.
As for our next candidates and political games, IF we have elections, it seems the international powers that be are grooming Rubio – and of course Jeb Bush, who has been waiting for his turn in the Bush Dynasty….more NWO people. To me, Rubio seems like another naive one – like I believe Romney was. Jeb is complicit. Look how mean they are being to Romney now that they lost. What’s up with that?? Could it be since he lost and can’t use him as Pres. to push their NWO agenda, they’re using his loss as an excuse to push for GOP going more “liberal” …getting more to there preference of the NWO goal? (Or just wanted him to lose period) Nah…couldn’t be. (He was used then and is being used now)
But oh well…..what does a little no-nothing commoner like me know.
No, GOP has gone to the dark side and even though we got some good Consvs. in there in 2010, they’re powerless – the newbies – bottom of the ladder.
RI is beyond naive to think we still have a chance for Consvs. to “take over”. We all thought that was possible this last time, encouraged by the 2010 elections, but fraud won and they (GOP) will not do anything about it. And we know why…..
Nope – think it means we have to go Third Party, fix the fraud problem, pray our hearts out that Obamanation won’t have us destroyed to the point of not having elections and have enough who will have the sense & desire to get back to the Constitutional values and policies. That’s all.
Reposting this — to RI – please note words in all caps: (from Canada Free Press)
“Now, Americans who made an effort to educate themselves as to the origins, nature, and designs of this President are asking themselves if half of the electorate are really that intellectually compromised, so unaware of the dynamics of the last four years they appear to be. It is painfully obvious at this point that THOSE WHO DON’T HAVE A HANDLE ON OBAMA BEING A COMMITTED MARXIST ARE EITHER DANGEROUSLY DELUDED OR STUPID; THERE’S NO MIDDLE GROUND HERE.
Obama’s INTENTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO RAZE AMERICA TO THE GROUND AND SUPPLANT OUR SYSTEM WITH THE MARXIST PARADIGM. This has become exponentially more apparent only days after his re-election, yet, not an eyebrow is raised when he casually addresses the press using rhetoric right out of Marx’s The Communist Manifesto and Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. Now he claims to have a mandate to raise taxes to the tune of over $1 trillion to fund a cyclopean government that is already about to collapse in on itself.
And what of the election, our bewildered non-Obama voters wonder. Did the President steal it? A Chicago voting machine technician now claims he observed that machines he was called to service were not counting votes for GOP nominee Mitt Romney. This is an error he claims never occurred when someone voted for Obama. The anecdotal evidence of voter fraud and election machine malfunctions is boundless, and at this writing, there are still congressional races that remain undecided.
Stolen the election via voter and technical fraud
Let us presume for a moment that Obama did steal the election via voter and technical fraud. Let’s also consider the possibility that he doesn’t care who knows. He’s not going to leave the smoking gun and body to be found, just some bloody drag marks. This way, engaged, patriotic Americans will be certain of his crime, but the uninformed and the deluded will not.
Let’s consider further who Obama is – that committed Marxist who wishes to replace our representative republic with a Marxist collective. What have such people done with their political enemies in the past? Typically, they kill or imprison them – and large numbers are of no moment. If Obama has been intent upon orchestrating a scenario whereby government intercession to suppress civil unrest will become “necessary,” then anything to engender tension and strife domestically is a win for him. This he has already done economically and through class warfare. “
We need to get back to our founding principles. There is at least one whole generation that has not been taught in depth about the founding of this country. The history books they use in public schools have been rewritten by liberals. We need to take responsibility for teaching our own children. Study the Federalist papers with them; they are remarkable treatises on the development of this country – and great experience for the kids in using a dictionary! Kris Anne Hall has some wonderful teaching media for kids as well as adults.
We must bring forth the messages of Conservatism: Conserving the liberties guaranteed by our founding documents. Republicans are Common Sense Conservatives – socially liberal and fiscally conservative; socially liberal to the extent we can pay for social programs. Small government. Encourage personal responsibility. Encourage working together in our communities, churches, food shelves, etc.; taking care of one another.
Stick to controlled legal immigration. Legal immigrants assimilate, illegal immigrants do not. We wave the American flag, no other.
One of the things I find troubling is the lack of young people in the Republican Party. I belong to several groups where I’m one of the younger members. It’s not like I live in some liberal bastion. I live in Idaho and old enough that I voted for Ronald Reagan, not exactly a spring chicken. I believe strongly that a big part of our problem is public education as SpeakingOut wrote, where they teach Socialism starting in Kindergarten. The 20th Century communists knew that if they infiltrated public education, they would win. They did this starting with Horace Mann and John Dewey. The problem seems to me to be that the the Democrat message resonates with the younger voters because they are taught a feel good collective-minded world view, rather than one based on truth. It’s hard to reach someone who believes government is the answer. I’m not sure what message you could put out there that would be well received by the young brainwashed masses.
RI = Cocktail GOP
RI = Loser
RI = Out of touch elitist
RI = Coward
Ulsterman: Time to cut ties and get a new source. Your current RI is glaringly out of touch with the average American. The RI can’t even see that a precicnt with 100% BHO votes is fraud I guess the ‘proof’ of the Black Panthers threating people wasn’t enough evidence.
Got to agree.
More and more data points out to the likelihood the Romney campaign was undermined from within.
Repubic consultants driven only by greed and hate for conservatives, and, now, this:
Project ORCA linked to mysterious now-nonexistent company
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/19/project-orca-linked-to-mysterious-now-nonexistent-company/
I saw that article, and when reading about the hidden ownership via various proxies, my first thought was, it was a DNC insider job.
Maybe the Republican Party needs to start doing a better job vetting those who work for them, and perhaps maybe they should start using voice stress tests to determine if these people who offer to work for them are infiltrators and saboteurs. Call me crazy for such a suggestion, but something has got to be done.
Don’t think for a minute there are not Republicans in bed with the unions and Dems.
Correct, Essa. This is WAR. In war, you have spies and subversive elements on both sides, usually sociopathic as hell.
If we see this as WAR, then we can act accordingly. They are much more devious than we, utterly unscrupulous, and unrelenting.
The Checkmate Company, huh? What an appropriate name.
This “Republican Insider” is part of the problem – if he thinks he can just ignore rampant voter fraud and win through “messaging” he has no clue what he’s really up against.
And BTW, the Republican Party does not need to become more “conservative.” It needs to become more libertarian. As long as it is getting caught up in social issues like gay marriage and abortion, there is a large percentage of the population that will *never* vote Republican. No amount of messaging is going to change that!
I’m not saying the GOP needs to outright embrace gay marriage but just lay off the issue and become more like the Tea Party. Focus on fiscal responsibility and otherwise stop putting neanderthals like that Akin guy up for office. And stop disenfranchising the Ron Paul people – they will be your biggest ally or your worst nightmare depending on how you treat them.
Thanks UM for pushing back in your responses.
I do believe there was voter fraud. Too many reports showing the discrepancies…We and the Military were the ones disenfranchised 2008,2012. For RI to say we don’t have the proof..well darn it..get the proof..it’s out there..start gathering it from sources who have reported it. Precint captains have been ignored.
Another thing, the folks that run campaigns are getting paid huge money to do so..All of them lost campaigns..the guy who ran McLame’s, Romney’s, Meg Whitman etc.. clean house R Party..get rid of them..
Get into the new media..and start overriding the false/misleading messaging of the lame stream media..Start now..we can’t wait until 2014..Tahe a card from their playbook…”Never waste an opportunity”
Keep the Benghazi travesty front and center.
If RI hasn’t figured it out, the Country is gone. Isn’t it funny how the RI is ragging on us being “respectful” and yet the Republicans are out there shitt*ing on their base(us) and sticking their heads up the arse of illegals and “moderates”. They constantly crap all over us. They talk about our being extreme, fringe and out of touch yet they want us to vote for them and they want US to be civil. These people have been doing all they could to squash the Tea Party. Do you ever see the Dems crap all over their base?
People you are being hit over the head to go along with this far left commie takeover of our country. Liberty loving and God fearing people have no true representative party and haven’t for years. The Republicans consistently pander to everyone else but their Liberty loving conservatives. They disdain us. They’re constantly pissed they have to drag us kicking and screaming further left, they want to get there faster and they hate us for holding them back.
The country is gone and as Rush Limbaugh put it, we are now at the mercy of “events” to seize it back. Sorry, this RI is to a certain extent clueless and I’m not following the Republican bandwagon any longer. We need to get out of this abusive relationship and understand if we stand by our principals we do not need the established Rinos any longer.
Yes, I know it won’t be easy but freedom never is easy. We’ve let this go on far too long and we can either sit on our butts and listen to RI tell us how to win elections or we can realize how far gone things really are, prepare and have a vision for LIBERTY that does not include the established Rino party.
DITTO and…DITTO !!!! When you said we need to get out of this “abusive relationship” — brilliant!!! It is like the epidemic “co-dependency” deal where women stay in abusive relationships — they never leave, or if they do, they come back and only get more abuse and more disrespect. SAME goes for this!!! It’s obvious the GOP hate Consvs. They do not want us to return to the Constitution – that would end their gravy train and corruption they’ve set up over decades. I NEVER hear anything about calling those who do not keep their oath to uphold the constitution….wonder why.
Enough don’t realize that this last election was not like any other — we gave it our all. I’ve never seen anything like it before – it was unprecedented. For 4 years, we were out here going crazy – could not wait for this election to get rid of him. Didn’t even care who ran against him….they’d say things like “I’d vote for an orange juice can” if it would get rid of this enemy. People who weren’t “political” before became so. People who were Dems voted for Romney b/c they realized the truth like WHI and WSI. So no, I cannot believe we had some “low turnout” or it was b/c of the messaging, etc. No – the only reasonable answer was fraud – unprecedented and successful. Heard ORCA was hacked and that’s why it went bonkers on them. No coincidence. We must realize we cannot use these new, modern technologies unless they are somehow guaranteed that they cannot be hacked – but then I’d still be skeptical. That’s probably impossible. No electronic anything.
Only good modern thing is the new media & forums like this – in that, the RI was correct.
We await the REAL CHANGE we can BELIEVE in !!!!!!
Exactly, I am reminded of what the venture capitalists say on the Dragon’s Den show when presented with an inferior product they do not want to invest in. “I’m out.”
Thank you Zelda; that was perfect!
If it is not close they can’t cheat. So why can’t Republicans win? Well I don’t agree with her on much but Kathtleen Parker hit it on the nose.
http://gazettextra.com/news/2012/nov/11/what-they-learned/
Excerpt:
the real problem is the Republican Party, which would not be recognizable to its patron saint, Ronald Reagan. The party doesn’t need a poll or a focus group. It needs a mirror.
The truth is, Romney was better than the GOP deserved. Party nitwits undermined him, and the self-righteous tried to bring him down. The nitwits are well-enough known at this point — those farthest-right social conservatives who couldn’t find it in their hearts to keep their traps shut. No abortion for rape or incest? Sit down. Legitimate rape? Put on your clown suit and go play in the street.
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Let me add that 70% to 80% of Americans want smaller government when it comes to medical marijuana. That is huge. And if championed would go a long way to changing the Party image. So who is championing that? 18 Democrat House members. The small government party is MIA.
Zelda,
And of course the trouble is that if voters don’t fear the same God they are unwelcome.
Maybe it is time to separate God Business from Political Business. It might attract a few more voters.
Alan Keyes ring a bell? He ran against Obama in 2004. And Lost.
BTW here is a Christian who agrees with me:
http://classicalvalues.com/2012/11/libertarian-christian/
If you want for religion join a church. Or be satisfied with communism.
M. Simon,
Seriously? Give me a break. We are a country founded on Judeo-Christian principals and part of the plan to bring down this country was and is to completely destroy those principals. Hmmm. Wonder why, Genius. You think you can have your marijuana, moral decay and all will be o.k., we’re free right? I mean freedom means just do whatever you want and no responsibility is involved, right? People’s values don’t matter and a cohesive set of values is even less important? Yeah, right. Your utopian fantasy land is as pathetic as the Commie fantasy land cause it’s just as unrealistic and it’s avoidance of mans essential nature just as pathetic.
The founders didn’t separate “God” business from “political” business. They understood the moral character of a people was an essential ingredient for the preservation of liberty. Hey, the congress even printed Bibles and gave them to the people.
You scream you stand for liberty, but not really. You stand for fantasy land. Me, I’ll take all the Alan Keyes you can give me and we’ll stand with God. Don’t think for a minute you can hit us “self righteous” over the head into consenting to your depravity and decadence. Our belief is much deeper than your superficial fantasy.
Zelda wrote: “Don’t think for a minute you can hit us “self righteous” over the head into consenting to your depravity and decadence.”
So what’s your great answer to this? Outlaw premarital sex?
The government has NO PLACE pushing fundamentalist Christian morality. If you want to win the morality war, then go directly to the culture and support socially conservative TV shows and media…oh wait…there isn’t any.
The Republicans will continue to lose as long as they make fighting gay marriage more important than fighting the debt. And you can complain about it all you want, but I have priorities, and no amount of morality will make up for a country that has gone the way of the Weimar Republic. And personally, I don’t care if gays marry or not. I just want a fiscally sound government that gets out of my life!
RI is STUPID STUPID STUPID. Just like the rest of his cronies.WE THE VOTERS ARE NOT STUPID.. WE KNOW.
1. There WAS voter fraud:
-SCYTL machines not counting Romney’s vote,
-switching to Obama when voters pressed the Obama button,
-machines overseen by SEIU,
-more than 100% turnout,
-Voters bussed in from Chicago to vote in Wisconsin,
-Illegals(Somalis) bussed in to vote,
-no voter ID(states which HAD ID, Obama lost),
-intimidation tactics by Black Panthers again,v
-vote counting -not all counted
-lost votes “discovered” in Florida,
-the military disenfranchised,
-Dems overseeing the polls,
-ORCA not working,
-ORCA now linked to mysterious non existent company(didnt they check bona fides?) -Anonymous hacking Orca,
-etc etc
HOW COULD ALLLLL OF THIS NOT BE F R A U D?
2. The Bushes are evil. Full stop. They think their dynasty is destined to rule the US. Old man Preston Bush (BIG OIL) had NAZI and ARAB connections. HW is an anti semite (he wouldnt even attend his granddaughter’s wedding to the son of Ralph Lauren, a Jewish designer), the Bushes, HW, and GW meeting Obama at the White House before the election(?what did they discuss?-a Bush wasn’t running), Jeb Bush being touted for 2016, and now the son running for politics. WHO THE HELL ARE THESE BUSHES?
3. ASK RI about the C A B A L . YES THE CABAL.
4. Ask RI about ALL the money laundering, back fraud, Jon Corzine, Goldman Sachs Lagarde,etc etc –WE WANT ANSWERS.
5. ASK RI about all the Muslim connections the GOP (and the Dems) have.
6. ASK RI why so many of the GOP politicians have creamed off the top and gotten wealthy from contracts and inside connections inside whichever Govt de jour. ASK him. WE KNOW. YOU ARE ALL CORRUPT.
7. ASK RI WHY is that law still in force that says ONLY DEMS can be in charge of elections. WHY havent the GOP petitioned the SUPREME COURT to vacate this law? HOW THE HELL CAN AN 87 yr OLD DEM judge come out of retirement every year to re validate this law?
http://judicialview.com/Court-Cases/Civil-Procedure/Democratic-National-Committee-v-Republican-National-Committee/10/201975
8. ASK RI why the GOP allowed LEFT WING moderators at the debates. WHY DIDN’T THEY PUSH BACK AND SAY NO? Because they colluded to get B Hussein re-elected.
If he can’t answer even some of these, then he can go to hell. The GOP is not believable anymore and we need to start a new party.
Let me say it again and say it now.
If Republicans gave up the Culture War and stuck to fiscal issues they would never lose elections.
I live in Illinois so I had a “free” vote. For the top of the ticket it was Libertarian. Otherwise straight R. I hope my message got through.
And a further note. Drug Prohibition is dying. Get off the Prohibition train before it rolls over you (remember 1932?).
Here’s the article about that now non existent company associated with Orca. May already have been posted here:
YOU WERE SUCKERED BY THE DEMS, RI. WHY DIDN’T YOU CHECK BON FIDES? OUR DONATION WENT TO THESE CROOKS.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/19/project-orca-linked-to-mysterious-now-nonexistent-company/
Just in case you are watching and reading RI:
There is overwehlming agreement on the grounds and in our comments that the fraud was rampant and stole the elections.
And the “opposition” is not even talking about it. Refuse to even speak the word.
As I said I am out.
I watched this movie before and at great personal expense shall I add. In this context nothing you say or attempting to do is remotely surprising to me. Useless and pointless.
The only difference in outcome this time around is that the International financial pressure is enormous and growing and that the Muslins have come to the point of no return in their quest of the Grand Caliphate. They won’t back down. (the grand dellusion of Obama and Jarret is that because they are “friends” to the Muslims they will be able to control the situation. Sofie’s Choice anybody?)
Combine this with the motor of the world (America) stalling and you have an explosive situation.
Rethoric of any kind is going to fail in front of the reality of events.
There is a storm coming.
What will be of America after is anybody guess. In the meantime, I am going to do whatever I can to weather it as best as I can, perfectly aware that my chances of survival (all aspects of it) are not assured.
Another,,excellent,, interview gentlemen.
I remember some of the Congressional reaction to Bush en-acting the “Patriot Act”. They warned him,(mostly against Democrats) obtaining the power created by the Act..Could be far more DANGEROUS to Americans than it could ever be good for Americans,(in the wrong hands). THAT,,,is what we now have.
My prediction is that the Republican Party will NOT survive much longer.America is dwindling into only 2 types of voters that are becoming the strong-hold. One set believes in almost non-existent government.One believes in extreme government.
A Conservative/Libertarian Party,or a Social/Communist Party.Make NO MISTAKE THOUGH,,,BOTH…. are tired of being lied to by RICH POLITICIANS,or politicians that GET-RICH while serving.THAT is the 1 commonality between all Americans..
Interesting article…
La Resistane
http://lamecherry.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/
Nothing sums up our current situation with both parties than this excellent article by Angelo Codevilla.
We have two parties that are run by people with the same mindset and the only difference is the degree which they pursue and implement the agenda. In the end, it makes little difference as the individual and his rights and freedom are being subverted by America’s “Ruling Class”…
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print
This article should be required reading for every American.
I’ve given this a lot of thought since the election debacle. I have watched as both the Republican Party (of which I am a member) and the Democrat Party have worked together to dismantle what our Founding Fathers so carefully constructed. While RI may feel he has a noble purpose and he may very well be a noble person… unfortunately to me it’s just sounding like more of the same.
I’ve come to the realization on a personal level that neither party is truly representative of what the American people desire. They (the parties) strive for grid-lock… and historically there will be periods of time when one party is dominant over the other one… however, it always comes full circle and the pendulum swings back the other way — and why is that? Could it be because neither parties’ principles can stand the test of time? If so, does that not mean there is inherently an issue with each parties’ core principles? That would be more true than anything else I’ve seen — including having the “wrong message” or “the wrong messenger”.
While I believe that there were potentially strong cases for voter fraud in some areas… I didn’t have to look further than my own circle of friends to see how divided the country is… and if my circle of friends was representative of the electorate at large then I can see how Obama won. I detest that he won and I detest that so many people were fooled, but that is where we are now and I only see it getting worse. I’m in my 50′s and my generation was at the beginning of what I like to call the ADD society. We’ve been so ingrained in messaging from so many sources that, as a society, our attention spans only last as long as one 24 hour news cycle.
Neither the Democrat Party nor the Republican Party… neither really speaks for middle America any longer. Both parties have been taken over by the fringe elements of each party. Those who scream the loudest and play the dirtiest.
I don’t see us being able to take back the America that I believe middle-class Americans want is by having a legitimate 3rd party. This party can only survive and excel if it takes the middle out of both the Democrat Party AND the Republican Party… one with core values that appeal to the larger majority of middle America — with principle core values in which both parties once agreed at one time or another but rarely at the same time. The two-party system has evolved into exactly what the Founding Fathers feared a system as such would create. It no longer works for the American people so the only way to fix it is to find a way to create that 3rd party using what I believe should be “center-right” candidates with “center-right” core principles and values… a Republicrat Party if you will (not the name I’m suggesting, but using it as simply an illustration for core values).
That’s the only thing I see that can save this country from these two parties that are in it just for themselves. The current leaders of both parties are no better than the union bosses who claim to be looking out for their members… but in reality are only in it to keep and save their own jobs… and to seek out more power.
Sorry for the long post, but his has been eating at me for quite some time and I had to get it out there for discussion. I don’t realistically see any other way — and I know it would be a longer term process but in my heart I see it as the only solution.
RI is correct about the Bushes. Bush W and all the people he surrounded himself with were Neocons. There is no significant difference between Progressives and and Neocons. Romney had a lot of Bush Necons running his campaign.
Until the GOP purges the Neocons from it’s party, they will never win another national election. I saw no difference in Romney or Obama other than superficially and perhaps on social issues.
As a REAL conservative, the only thing I see of that both parties offer us is more war, more big government and the continued destruction of our civil liberties.
A lot of people say Obama stole the election. Romney simply got ‘out Karl Roved’ by Obama.
If you want to understand true conservatism vs neoconservatism, read Barry Goldwater, Pat Buchanan, Lew Rockwell or Ron Paul. Social conservatism can continue to exist within the Party, but the argument should be made that ‘social’ mandates should be handled at the state level and NOT federally mandated. If NY allows gay marriage and CO wants to legalize pot, I have no problem with it – I don’t live in either of those states.
The pot law in CO will be challenged by the Feds because it cuts into their business if you get my drift.
America is financially and morally bankrupt and the system will probably have to collapse before any meaningful changes can be made. Our beloved Republic is on life support. Sad. Very sad.
Again I am sitting in the background and reading this all and thinking, America is gone.
Yes Gone.
RI has not idea of how to look at the big picture, peoples behaviours and underlying motivators for those behaviours.
Messaging is going to do squat.
Free true elections are a thing of the past if there ever was one. WHI said it.
And besides it’s become a popularity contest, not anything to do with facts stance, messaging, or duty.
People have been for the most part dumbed down to basic sheep in schools. The media and schools have dumbed down and brainwashed the people. So appealing to them with IMPROVED MESSAGING is gonna change that?
Gov’t will never get smaller until somebody (with alot of power) takes a stand and axes the bureaucracy below them. And I do mean AX. And who is gonna do that? Nobody.
What we have is two Americas now.
One with hard working Libertarian ideas and values who want to be left alone.
and another with no morals, values and ethics wanting somebody else to help them and yet they want to tell others what to do.
That isn’t gonna change.
And that Gov’t keeps on getting bigger and bigger with flunkies like RI who have the next great idea, isn’t helping.
Sorry to say this. But it has to be said.
What America needs is a war on it’s own soil.
The blood and spilling of guts kind.
The kind that teaches people that you’ve got to work for it.
The kind that teaches people how to make decisions.
The kind that teaches people to focus on the relevant stuff and forget the fluff.
To show people it is so much harder to create than to destroy.
And about personal responsibility, ethics and morality.
So RI can say what he wants and think he’s got the way to make Republicans win. I say, who cares.
Republicans nowadays are worse than the Democrats from 50-10 years ago. The kind the guy put down on his gravestone in 1879 that he said never to trust.
So America gets to choose between the Ebola virus or AIDS.
Quick death or slow painful death.
Mitt was the man that could of slowed it down and started to correct the steering of the ship.
Gawd bless him, Mr.Reagan was right. One generation and America is toast.
Never again will America be a leader in the world.
It’s time has past.
Like all the previous Empires before it, it has ripened to the point of spoiling.
And just like the fall of previous Empires, there will be regional “spats” that will plunge the world in a new dark era.
There will be no great achievements anymore, like going to the moon or Mars.
There will be no great book or music written.
What there will be will be simple survival.
Like maggots on the rotting corpse.
It’s done.
We have past the point and are on the downhill slide.
Enter the locusts (Islam) to become bountiful with no more natural predators.
Laziness and stupidity reign.
RI
As an insider you are a junior buffoon.
You do not understand and can not comprehend what was and was has been destroyed.
You do not understand the men and women you work with and their motivators.
New Media messaging is going to change the indoctrination that has been going on since Karl Marx? All the new media is a flashy new light bulb that spits out words in a pattern that will hopefully brainwash people into believing anything.
And oh yeah it’ll have wifi, thumb controllers and 16 CPUs.
Until people believe it in their hearts and minds, no amount of messaging will get through the indoctrination that Karl Marx started and that simple people can understand.
They need examples. They need the real lesson from life
This generation has not had to face War.
Has not had to work in -40 degree weather to get something done.
Has not the need or knowledge to feed themselves from the land.
Heck most of America and the world would starve to death if locked overnight in a grocery store!
This is no longer about elections. Or the messaging in elections. Or messaging to the people
This is about being a beacon of light to the world and finding the right person to carry that light.
And at present….the world is sadly lacking.
I can’t say I see much to disagree with. Well said. The fact you are Canadian gives you a certain objectivity as well since you have no real dog in this fight.
As far as a blood and guts spilling war here goes, don’t see it. That was an American of yesterday who dreamt big and made stuff happen. This is the “Twinkie generation” and it’s demise speaks volumes about the current state of the Republic…
Hi RJ
As a Canadian, for all Canadians we do have dog in this fight.
We are tied to the hip of America, Brothers. What Happens to America happens to Canada.
Yes Canada has gone a more socialist path thanks to the Liberal party idiots like Trudeau and Chretien (and Trudeau’s idiotic son is now trying to become a Leader!)
Canada has survived because of 2 things. A small population and learning and surviving due to a reliance on America.
If the US sneezes, Canada catches a cold.
Right now PM Harper is trying his best to create fortress Canada economically and politically in the harsh environment in the world and amongst it’s idiotic provinces.
But do not think Canada doesn’t have dog in the game.
Canada’s survival depends on a strong America.
I’d rather be an American than a Canadian.
The America I grew up learning about, the ideas and morals and ethics it use to stand for, the respect for those that sacrifice for the greater good, the ability and freedom to create prosperity for ones self is nowhere matched in the world.
Canada is better than most of the world, but it is no America. And it does not have any pride in itself.
The immigration Minister Jason Kenny is trying to change that, from 40 years of Liberal open doors, polluting our country with 3rd world barbarians who mainly hold onto 7th century customs. Coming here to corrupt our elections and not for a better life, but to make our lives like their old lives.
That is why those of us that understand, follow and cheer America for the light it shines onto the world. Stand by Israel, and try to help, teach and guide those that have had their heads filled with….stupid ideas….and show them something better.
Problem is they do not know what is better and reject it.
I am deeply saddened to read everyday what is going on in our brother country, the US. Deeply saddened to read about the injustice being done to Israel by those that surround it and those around the world.
I have a basic rule I follow in life.
To try and understand the behaviours, understand the motivators.
And I see the key motivators are this:
Fear
Greed
Ignorance
Sloth
How do you combat this? How do you change this?
The only way is through strength.
Strength in belief
Strength in faith
Strength in morals and ethics
Strength to stand with the enemy camp and withstand their barrage and stay with your convictions.
Strength in duty
I do not know what more to say.