The second installment of an emotionally charged conversation between two political operatives with often opposing views on the real reasons why Mitt Romney lost the election to Barack Obama – and who really is to blame…
(Recent media reporting suggests the internal polling used by Mitt Romney was simply inaccurate. A Republican insider suggests those inaccuracies were intentionally orchestrated by Obama operatives at great expense to the Romney campaign.)
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Part One of this interview is available HERE
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…WHI: (Leans into RI) Well ok then…now we’re having a conversation here! Looks like your berries finally dropped boy! Ok…ok…you wanna talk huh?
(Points to UM) You up for this? You ready for this? So we all want to have a…real conversation huh? Well pickle my pecker…let’s go on and do it.
LET’S HAVE US A TALK THEN BOYS…
RI: That’s what we came here for…so…yeah…let’s—-
WHI: (Interrupts) —I’ll start. You listen. Then you answer. How about that?
RI: Sure…but I have some questions…ummm…some comments for you too.
WHI: Whatever son…you listen. I’ll talk…
We lost this election by…how did the Old Man put it? By any means necessary right? …Obama got his second term. (Pause) …Ok then. I say stolen. You say maybe…but we can’t prove it. And yeah…ok…you are right about that I-I guess. The laws set up to make that…it’s a real tough thing. You can have recounts…but…on a national level…charging fraud….election fraud…tough to do. The system is rigged to make it tough right from the start.
RI: Exactly. So we agree on this at least.
WHI: Now hold up…we don’t agree on one big fundamental f-cking point here. This election was STOLEN. PERIOD. You want to say maybe it was maybe it wasn’t. I say yes it was. Been over the numbers a thousand times…what we had weeks and days heading into the election…that wave that broke Obama’s way on Election Day…hell no. Hell no. Hell no. No way that happened like that. Not for real. They stole it. And here’s where I get so pissed at your party…Republicans. Now if this was reversed for us here…if it was Dems who felt like it was stolen…you’d have twenty, thirty members of Congress screaming that very thing on the TV, day after day. They would be rilin’ up the base…there would be marches in DC, protests…why is it you Republicans are so damn…so f-ckin’ POLITE about having this election taken from you? Makes me wonder…makes me wonder…
UM: What do you mean wonder? About what? What are you implying by that?
WHI: These boys take a dive? That’s what I mean. A shadow punch – that what we have here? I mean not a WHISPER about voter fraud? Really? Now I’m not charging the Romney team with this…I know how stunned they were. Election Night…they were genuinely shocked. The governor…he was…handled it great. Lot of dignity and all that…but outside the campaign…the RNC…some state organizations….something fishy there. Something not right. I’ll give you the fact proving it is…it would be damn near impossible…but that don’t change my mind none on it. STOLEN. And I already said it weeks ago…the Obama team, or whoever, whatever is behind it…they needed help to pull it off. That help had to come from inside the Republican operation. How far…how deep…don’t know. And YOU (points to RI)…YOU want to just shrug it off? I know you seen some of those numbers too…it’s all out of whack. There’s always irregularities…yeah-yeah…I been there and done that myself. Not proud of it…but sure…done it. These damn computers though…what…how easy can it be done now? On a much larger scale than I’ve ever been involved in? And what was given to make some people look away?
RI: Can I say something here? (looks to UM)
UM: Please – go ahead.
RI: First…ummm…we have some agreement here on the idea that proving it is…I would say at this point…impossible. You are implying that there was widespread election fraud. Now if I recall it was you who said…I think it was you…you said that for a Republican to win by one they have to actually win by three, right?
WHI: I say that? Don’t remember.
RI: Doesn’t matter – is that…does that sound about right? If a Republican is to win by one – they have to actually win by three. Right?
WHI: Sure…national election…some of these states…sure. I’ll go along with that.
RI: Ok…if that has been the established rule for some time…and we had a close election…2012…ummm…it seems very likely that Mitt Romney did not get his actual numbers to that 3% margin…so he lost. Maybe he was only up by one, or at the most two…so he lost the election. And I’m…(pause)…I don’t want to join you on the conspiracy plank here but—-
WHI (Interrupts)—Now there you go…that is a big part of why we are HERE see? We can say things…share information…that we couldn’t normally do, right? So YOU man up now…and speak your damn mind boy. I didn’t bring you in to this thing here…without knowin’ you got a sharp mind for how this works. I’m from a different era…you…I’ll give you this – you know your sh-t. But you gotta share what you know. Stop playin’ nice. Speak your mind. This uh…this here…that’s what it’s for. So just say what you wanna say. They left Romney hangin’ didn’t they? I could feel that on Election Night.
RI: Maybe…but where I was going to go…it involves you. Directly. And I don’t want you blowing up here. But…there’s been something bothering me…ummm…weeks out. I sensed the possibility you were…ummm…misinformed. And it was deliberate. And that you were…being…being played.
WHI: What the hell you on about? Played? Me? (leans back – opens arms wide) Well do tell now son. Do tell.
RI: Your internals data. You trust those? Completely?
WHI: That wasn’t “my data” – the Romney team ordered those up. And yeah…why wouldn’t I trust those?
RI: That data…ummm…it showed Romney with comfortable margins in a lot of states…strong momentum in some swing states? Correct? That was…ummm..you shared that here, right? I recall you sounding very optimistic.
WHI: Yeah. What of it?
RI: But…you were wrong. Or…the data was wrong. You admit that?
WHI: NO. I already said…the STOLE the motherf-cker. The election.
RI: All right…hold on. I want you to suspend your belief in that conspiracy for just a minute and go with something I’ve been pondering on all this. Now I was told the Romney team…they kind of ummm…stopped fighting hard the last couple…last few weeks. And watching it…granted I was on the outside looking in…but what I saw…ummm…confirmed that. They didn’t go hard on Benghazi. They backed off it. They refused to really go after the president…they just campaigned from state to state without really…they didn’t really draw a hard line of distinction and I think that was a critical mistake.
WHI: You’re talkin’ tactics…what does that have to do with the internals? Got my attention here now…so you flesh this out. What you gettin’ at here?
RI: I had actually mentioned this to you earlier…a few weeks from the election. When the Romney team started to make a play on Pennsylvania. Do you remember that?
WHI: Not really…no.
RI: -Deleted-
WHI: Right…got it. Yeah…I dismissed it. Thought you were being…paranoid.
RI: And what was the result in Pennsylvania? What were the actual numbers? Five – four points? Somewhere in there, right?
WHI: Yeah.
RI: Wasn’t even close. But your internals…they showed this shift in Pennsylvania, right? Big shift for Romney…so the campaign, it dumped money there in the final weeks. Spent time there. Was spreading itself thin and leaving off…leaving less time for other swing states where it might have still had a legitimate shot at winning.
I want you to tell me how off the internals were in Pennsylvania. Just that one example. How much…what was the difference there? Because I think this might have something to do with how quickly the Romney team…how they conceded so quick…I think they realized something you have been fighting with yourself not to. I think they realized it right away.
WHI: You gettin’ in my head with this? What’s your point?
RI: I didn’t want to go here with you because it doesn’t…there’s nothing we can do. The election is over. I don’t take pleasure in…
WHI:—Just get on with hit. You want to know how far off the numbers were. The internals and Pennsylvania.
RI: How far off?
WHI: (Pause) Same margin…the internals…month out we were about three back. With a week to go they were telling us it was within a point give or take. So with that momentum…the margins of undecideds that break for the challenger…we really thought Pennsylvania was…I mean why wouldn’t they think that?
RI: And you had said…with (Ulsterman) you had said the Romney team was leaking their internals to the Obama camp. Rubbing their noses in it. Right?
WHI: Yeah. I did. They were…yeah. I was for sure…
RI: You thought you were getting in their head. You were hearing back that you were getting in their head, right?
WHI: YES…
(Note: This was a critical point in the conversation between these two operatives – a clear look of dejection came over WHI…they leaned down and placed their head into their hands. And true to their word, RI appeared to be taking no pleasure in the moment.)
WHI: They bought up the f-cking internals? Is that what you are laying out here?
RI: Yes…and I think that is far more likely than a huge fraud operation on Election Day. Again…(puts hands up) I am NOT saying some fraud didn’t occur. But…if you take the margin of victory that Obama was given…and put that directly up against those internal poll numbers…It’s far easier for me to believe it was those internals that were corrupted much more than the millions and millions of votes.
(Pause) I’m saying…ummm…Barack Obama had this thing won the whole way. Mitt Romney never had a real chance…those internals…they were a lie. A manipulation…and you…you were part of that. You bought into those numbers…you embraced those numbers…they all did. They were outplayed. The Romney team…they didn’t know how to play dirty like this. They became overconfident…complacent…waiting on a press conference that was delayed until AFTER the election…you know all about that.
So the Romney campaign pays hundreds of thousands for those internals…the Obama campaign…they pay…or promise to pay…pay them MILLIONS to come up with internals that make the Romney team think they are winning this thing. There’s already been reports saying the Romney team was relying on bad internal polling – but what I’m saying here…that the polling was INTENTIONALLY bad, umm…inaccurate…and it was made so by the direct involvement of the Obama campaign…And while you are leaking those internal results back to the Obama operatives…thinking you’re messing with them…all you did was confirm to them that what they had set up was working perfectly. What are we taught…what must a campaign have in order to form a competent operation? Beyond the candidate itself, and funding…what must we have to ensure success?
(Long Pause)
WHI: Information.
RI: What kind of information?
WHI: Accurate….accurate information.
RI: Exactly? To act – to react effectively…it all requires good campaign intel. How about Virginia? What did your internals show there? Was Romney ahead?
WHI: Yeah – by…by as much as three.
RI: And on Election Night…when ummm…when Virginia wasn’t breaking for Romney—-
WHI: (Interrupts)—I knew we were f-cked.
RI: And you were. We all were.
UM: So you really think Mitt Romney never had a chance to win? That Obama was unbeatable?
RI: What did I say to you the first time we spoke on that? My thoughts on Mitt Romney as the candidate at this particular time?
UM: That…you didn’t think he was the right candidate.
RI: I said he didn’t provide a clear enough distinction…a real choice between himself and Barack Obama. That his history on healthcare mandates…abortion…immigration…it made the job much more difficult. I’ll expand on that a bit here…ummm…basically, the Republicans thought they could simply run against Barack Obama, right? The problem is…that when Mitt Romney won the nomination…in so many ways he was Barack Obama…it was easy for them…the media…the Democrats…to ummm…muddy up the waters so to speak. And so that made…Romney became much more passive in the General Election than he was in the primaries…because he was…or his advisers were…afraid to distance themselves from Obama. To really go after him because Mitt Romney had some very critical examples in his own political career that seemed to compliment Barack Obama’s own policies. During the primaries…Rick Santorum warned everyone about this. He was right. I knew it then. But nobody wanted to listen. Nobody…the RNC…it wanted Mitt Romney. Then…see what it has done now…its thrown Romney to the curb. I’m still looking into that…
UM: (Turns to WHI)…So…do you…agree with what he’s saying here? About the internals? Were you fed bad information?
WHI: (Extends arm fully and points at RI) THAT is why I brought them to you. I ain’t sayin’ I’m buyin’ this completely…but yeah…I should of….f-ck…should have seen this. Godd-mmit! Those motherf-cking Obama…I hate this White House. I hate that campaign. I hate the stupid f-cking voters…all of them who fall for his bullsh-t. Guess that includes me…
UM: (Turns to RI) So why didn’t you try and…warn them? Stop it from happening? And wouldn’t this ruin the reputations of those polling firms?
RI: First – I did! People became tired of hearing it. The candidate was chosen…ummm…I wasn’t part of the campaign team…so…look ummm…me and the Republican leadership…we don’t agree on a whole lot. I’m one of those ummm…troublemakers? I think the leadership needs to change. I think…I KNOW the messaging coming from the party has been horrible for a long time. The fact is…and I’ve said this to a lot of people in recent years…voters don’t…right now…voters don’t have a Republican Party to vote for. They have the far left Democratic Party…and they have the not quite as far left Democratic Party which calls itself Republican. And so because of that…voters get confused, they get agitated…they get angry…lose focus…and that allows somebody like Barack Obama and his handlers and the media to just manipulate them…divide them…and in the end…the Democrats win and we lose. As for reputations…the polling firms…it would be very tough to prove actual, ummm…intentional wrongdoing – especially if most or all were in on it. They can counter suspicion by simply saying ummm…it was bad sampling. An error – not intentional…just a misjudgement of the electorate. And they have the national polling data to back them up on that. The orchestration of it all…just from an operative’s perspective…incredible.
WHI: I want you to explain to me…the bad internals…ok then. You might have got that right…BUT…how does that explain the election? How does that explain…how people still re-elected that piece of sh-t? Can you please tell me that ’cause my head still can’t wrap itself around that one. I’ll give you that the Romney team wasn’t as good as I thought…fine…fine. I still say it’s a damn shame…a good man and my heart says he woulda been a good president. So if I can see that…why the f-ck didn’t the voters? And don’t give me a talk on “messaging”. I GET IT. That ain’t it…there’s gotta to be more to it than just…the damn message. (Inaudible) —to the polls? How does that not happen? Tell me HOW they f-cking did it because I don’t KNOW and it’s driving me up the godd-mn wall! How did these motherf-ckers pull this off? You want to take fraud off the table…you want to say we got…that the Obama machine bought up the same damn internals we were using…that ain’t enough to get somebody as bad as this guy re-elected. It isn’t. It sure as hell can help – but it isn’t enough….So can you please tell me how they did it? I don’t got the answers. Guess I never did. Guess I’m as used up as people have been saying about me for years. You’re the new generation in this…you’re the smart guy now…you TELL ME. Tell me how they did it. I want you to break it open for me. Break yourself open…Don’t worry about offending someone…that’s why we got THIS. See? You can say whatever the f-ck you want. So say it. TELL ME. Please. Make – me – under – stand. ‘Cause I can’t go out like this…Jesus Lord…I left a big part of me dead and gone on November 6th…and it’s killin’ the rest of me.
…I just got to know how this thing happened. If they didn’t steal it…not enough of it…how the f-ck did they do it? Break it open son. Please. And where do we go from here? How do we fix this? Because this old boy (shrugs)…he don’t know. I’m swimming in waters…f-ck it. Let’s face it…it seems I forgot how to swim. Yeah…been drowning since November 6th. So you tell us now how we keep our heads above water…’cause we are ALL drownin’ now.
(Prolonged Silence)
UM:..So tell us how the Obama White House won the election. According to you…you don’t seem to believe that election fraud was the deciding factor. You tell us that the Romney campaign was duped into believing false internals. But I agree with (WHI)…there has to be more to it than that. If you take fraud off the table like he said…how did they win the election?
RI: (Points at WHI) …this election was a long time coming and it was people like HIM who set it up. HIS Democratic Party…HIS friends…maybe now we’ll ummm…we’ll call them former friends – in the media. The entertainment world….they all played their part in this. The danger to the United States right now…it’s all of them…it’s a lack of education among the public…it’s greed. And like I said…it’s been a long time in the making…and unfortunately…my own Republican Party has played a part in this as well. I can think of 1980…when the Reagan campaign following a meeting with the Rockefeller wing of the party, agreed to take on George H.W. Bush as their VP choice…we could go back to the election of Kennedy in 1960…Chicago…the manipulation that took place with the 3rd party nonsense that set up Clinton in 1992…YOU (again points to WHI) helped set that up…you couldn’t defeat Barack Obama because Barack Obama is the culmination of your own life of work. Not that you knew it at the time…but that’s the reality. You were fighting yourself these last two years. That Obama machine you talk so much about…you helped provide the foundation. And I think that’s a big part of what has you so upset…you know that. You haven’t wanted to say it…but you know that’s the truth. And I’ll add this to that…until you come to terms with that…you won’t get past it. You won’t ever really be a part of defeating what Barack Obama and the people around him stand for. And until the Republican Party—
UM: (Interrupts)—Time out. Need to refocus this again. (WHI) asked something I want to get an answer to…and that is how Barack Obama won, but you’re going off on past elections and presidents…so can you…how about I ask you some specific questions and you give me some specific answers and please try and make them brief, yeah? I like that you’re loosening up here enough and throwing some interesting theories out there…we just need to keep it focused to people can follow along. Otherwise, it does not good, yeah? That make sense—-
(As I was finishing up my request to RI, WHI stood up and walked quickly over to RI and stood directly above him – which…given the high emotion earlier in the conversation, and the most recent accusations by RI against WHI, made me concerned enough for the physical well being of RI to rise from my own seat in order to step between the two if need be. WHI then said the following in a tone best described as a “hiss” – the words coming out between clenched teeth. I cautiously attempted to put my hand on their arm to but WHI’s left hand clasped quickly around my own wrist and held my hand away while he extended the pointing finger of his right hand into the face of RI. I will say this for him – WHI possesses far more physical strength than I would have thought, and the moment certainly took the interview into the territory of the surreal)
WHI: You don’t leave this room until I hear you explain what you just said. You wanna make those…that kind of f-cking accusation…then you explain what you mean. You owe me that. Man to man…you tell me what you mean by my being to blame for Barack f-ckin’ Obama. You gettin’ up in my grits now boy…so you start talkin’. Got my FULL attention son…so I wanna hear what you are on about with that line of bullsh-t you just laid out to me there. Understand? YOU man the f-ck up now…and tell me what you meant by all that.
(To his credit, RI remained incredibly calm, at least outwardly, to WHI’s obvious rage over what RI had just said about him. He leaned back in his seat, folded his hands on his lap, and replied. As RI was doing that, I was attempting to pull my wrist from WHI’s grip while placing my other hand on his shoulder. WHI’s grip did not loosen though, and as I felt how tense WHI’s shoulder was I started to wonder if I would even be able to pull him off of RI in time if it actually came to that. Surprise-surprise – WHI has some thirty years on me – but the DUDE IS STRONG)
RI: I’d be happy to -deleted-. As soon as you sit back down, if you have the time to hear it…I’ll give you my explanation of how Barack Obama won. How you and others like you… helped to make that happen. Sure. Ok? Just…go ahead and sit back down and let’s keep talking. Just make sure you listen. If more people were actually listening with open ears and open minds…ummm…we wouldn’t be in the mess we are now. And I’m not blaming you…just saying you played a part in it. Ok? So stop with the intimidation tactics again…let’s sit down like adults and listen to what each other has to say. I’m happy to explain that, ummm…explain that for you.
WHI: Uh-huh…bet you’re happy to have me sit back down. Little know it all prick. -Inaudible- motherf-cker. You ain’t never even been to the big show. I’m so sick of Northeasters tellin’ MY people what WE know and don’t know. You ain’t no better than me son. And your time will come too…when you got blood on those soft little white hands of yours…just you wait. Things won’t seem so cut and dry then…just you wait. So I’m gonna go back on over here and sit on down.
…And you’re gonna talk.
(WHI turned his head to me as he walked back to his seat and WINKED. The bastard actually WINKED at me! I’m shaking my head and smiling as I write about it now. Big brass ones this…)
END PART TWO – PART THREE COMING SOON…
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The Man Who Calls Himself Obama VI
This makes a lot more sense than voter fraud. Romney caught flat footed because he trusted those stupid internals so much. Question is now what? We going to get some answers from this RI? What do we do know? Just suck it up bend over and take it for the next four years?
Long read but worth it. How about the idea that the Obama media made all the #s and polls so confusing that it allowed Obama to steal it? I earned a little more respect for RI here but there was still part of me hoping the WHI was gonna actually smack him up a little. He seems like one of the young know it alls just out of college types. Hate those kind of pukes.
Nah. RI doesn’t seem like he’s recently out of college – He’s in his forties – middle aged.
I have liked RI from the very beginning.
Yeah what the hell is it with the Republican party? The rest of us are literally out here screaming a the top of our lungs on the net to get some thing across to you people. Even if we had massive demonstartions you, the Republican establishment would ignore us unlike the Demos who would pay attention to the masses. Well i am god damned sick of it! You are too damned polite! I personally loved it when Gingrich would stand up to people and rip them to shreds. We need more of that. I am spitting mad about this election and NO ONE is going to tell me that there wasn’t MASSIVE voter fraud involved not with what i have read. I read today that there are around 90 million registered voters in this country but the actuall votes came to 135 million approximately. How the F-CK does that happen?? That is huge! I am sorry but i don’t trust RI. I still think he is trying to placate us. Will be interested in part 3.
I am so disgusted to hear that fraud cannot be proven.
Circonstantial evidence anybody????
Let’s just start with the difference between the registered numbers and the final numbers of votes expressed.
That alone is pretty d…d proof of a major problem.
Do not call it fraud if you do not want to, but call it what it is uncertifiable results.
The Reps do not know how to fight. They just don’t. They do not have the guts for it. Not enough respect for the people to fight for us.
We now know that if the electors of 17 states do not vote, No-braiohner has the constitutional duty to name the new President.
So what about the Governors of the Red States saying they support their electors in not voting, because eventhough numbers are fine in their respective states, participating in the process would be sanctioning a situation in other states with consequences at the federal level. In other words, clean up your mess blue states, or we are cleaning it for you.
That’s a fight. That’s a demonstration I go on the bus for…
Forget the fiscal cliff or the debt limit crisis, or the latest crisis du jour. Sick of it. Tired of it. Done.
These are not the real fight. They are business like usual. We want a real fight. Going for the jugular kind of fight.
I don’t know … it seemed like there was a huge enthusiasm gap in Romney’s favor. Leading up to the election, Romney was drawing crowds of tens of thousands while Obama was having difficulty filling high school gyms.
I suspect that the combination of voter fraud, intentionally misleading internals, and the cover for and complicity in Obama’s many criminal acts by the LSM (not to mention running an Obama-lite candidate) was too difficult of a force to overcome.
I’m enjoying the RI’s attitude and knowledge. Truth is the Republicans have lost their way when they embraced the neocons like Bill Kristol and his associates. When the RNC and voters rejected Pat Buchanan’s bid the writing was on the wall that the Republican party had changed. I’m equally happy that RI has embraced the Ron Paul / Liberty wing of the party…which is where the future of the party lies. The RNC struck again when they pulled the bullsh*t at the convention by changing the rules. My thinking is that is one of the reasons why more Republicans / Libertarians didn’t turn out to oppose Obama. On one hand we didn’t want to reward RNC / Romney campaign for underhanded tactics against Ron Paul and the nominating process in general and as RI alluded to, Romney was the same as Obama.
Interesting comment that WHI made regarding RI’s getting blood on his “soft little white hands.” Could WHI be a black operative or politician? Gov. Wilder perhaps?
Ron Paul was working for Obama’s side. As were the other Libertarian public figures.
They’re no “liberty wing.” They are open allies of the socialists and globalists, aiding them in their election theft efforts for at least eight years now.
2000: Ralph Nader is widely regarded as being a spoiler against Al Gore, resulting in the realization that minor Third Party candidates (and not just high-profile Third Party candidates like Ross Perot) could decide the outcome of an election. Democrats take notice, as evidenced by their harassment of Ralph Nader over the next four years.
2004: Libertarian Party and Green Party sue for Ohio recount in the hopes of overturning the Ohio election results; this would have resulted in the election of Democrat John Kerry as President. Democratic Party throws its support behind this effort at a later date.
2008: Ron Paul runs for the Republican Presidential nomination. After losing, he endorses Chuck Baldwin over John McCain.
2009: Libertarians see an opportunity in the Tea Party movement, and begin attempts to hijack the movement, with the eventual goal of hijacking the Republican Party itself.
2010: Libertarian hijacking attempt meets with mixed success, with Libertarian ideology failing to control the majority of the movement. A notable success is the election of Rand Paul to U.S. Senate.
2012: Ron Paul, in spite of aid from the media beginning with the hyping of his campaign ahead of the Iowa caucuses, fails to win the Republican nomination for President, the second Libertarian hijacking failure in two years. He refuses to push for unity and endorse the eventual nominee, Mitt Romney, and chooses to leave his previous supporters disgruntled with the process and the party. Gary Johnson, another failed Republican primary candidate, runs for President as a Libertarian, openly encouraging disgruntled Paul supporters and others to “waste your vote.” Johnson staffers openly state that they wanted to be the reason Romney lost. The 2000 scenario is reversed: Obama is reelected, with Johnson voters and disgruntled Paul supporters who refuse to vote putting the election within stealing range for the Obama campaign in several swing states. Majority of Libertarians silent or outright dismissive on the question of election fraud.
Today: Libertarian hijacking effort back in full swing. Rand Paul to run for Republican Presidential nomination in 2016.
“Ron Paul was working for Obama’s side. As were the other Libertarian public figures.
They’re no “liberty wing.” They are open allies of the socialists and globalists, aiding them in their election theft efforts for at least eight years now.”
Yet, Ron Paul and a few others vote for in favor of small government, individual rights, and against legislation designed to impede them. While he also votes and speaks against domestic and international interventionist-expansionism.
As to the third party candidates, it was partially confirmed in this interview; some independent parties are placed on the ballot to offset or to attain respectively Democratic-Independent-Republican voters to increase the chances of Democrats or Republican Party’s candidate winning the election escalating the viewpoint a vote for an Independent is a throw away/wasted vote and further limits the ability of a successful challenger to the two party system in place, which enables voters to shift to effectively whenever.
In short, who then is working for the globalists? The ruling Democratic-Republican political classes. How do they control? By presenting an illusion of choice for the voting populace to grant their consent of the winner through the democratic process, a staple attribution of modern authoritarianism.
Ron Paul’s media hype surrounded his newsletters that allowed a writer with racist viewpoints to write them on his paper in which the argument centered:
1. He knew about them and thus endorsed them, which is more information on mainstream media journalism as it indicates only an endorsed knowledge will be published.
2. He made money off of it because it was a subscription style newsletter, which again speaks more to mainstream media’s publication methodology than anything.
Outside alternative media, Ron Paul’s runs were ignored and effectively attacked.
“Ron Paul was working for Obama’s side. As were the other Libertarian public figures.
They’re no “liberty wing.” They are open allies of the socialists and globalists, aiding them in their election theft efforts for at least eight years now.”
Yet, Ron Paul and a few others vote for in favor of small government, individual rights, and against legislation designed to impede them. While he also votes and speaks against domestic and international interventionist-expansionism.
As to the third party candidates, it was partially confirmed in this interview; some independent parties are placed on the ballot to offset or to attain respectively Democratic-Independent-Republican voters to increase the chances of Democrats or Republican Party’s candidate winning the election escalating the viewpoint a vote for an Independent is a throw away/wasted vote and further limits the ability of a successful challenger to the two party system in place, which enables voters to shift to effectively whenever.
In short, who then is working for the globalists? The ruling Democratic-Republican political classes. How do they control? By presenting an illusion of choice for the voting populace to grant their consent of the winner through the democratic process, a staple attribution of modern authoritarianism.
Ron Paul’s media hype surrounded his newsletters that allowed a writer with racist viewpoints to write them on his paper in which the argument centered:
1. He knew about them and thus endorsed them, which is more information on mainstream media journalism as it indicates only an endorsed knowledge will be published.
2. He made money off of it because it was a subscription style newsletter, which again speaks more to mainstream media’s publication methodology than anything.
Outside alternative media, Ron Paul’s runs were ignored and effectively attacked.
Heavens to betsy lets vote our affiliation lines if we white, we vote white, black we vote black, brown vote brown, purple vote purple, Democrat vote democrat, Republican vote republican etc, etc, and etc…
Yes, E.A.B., sorry to say, they were, in effect, maybe unwittingly, but nevertheless that was what they were doing working “for Obama’s side.”
As for this Johnson person, he is merely an actor, as are several members of congress, past and present, as well as at least a governor or two. Literally, actors, people. More on that later perhaps.
Someone ask RandyIf his dad glues on those eyebrows.
That’s what I’ve been saying…they are GREAT A.C.T.O.R.S….. they should all get Oscars, Academy Awards, Emmys. They are just in the political category. They have their VERY talented script writers, “movies”, “sit-coms”, directors, investors, producers, etc. And they all vie for their trophies and awards, wins to feed egos, bank accounts, popularity. Only these are FAR more dangerous, evil and affect wars, who controls countries and world events that lead to millions of deaths and destruction.
Sigh. Another insane anti-libertarian rant from E.A.B. Maybe you are a plant for the Democrats? Here to stir up division between conservatives and libertarians? Maybe your motives aren’t so pure, eh?
As I’ve said here before, Gary Johnson pulled as many votes away from Obama. If you want Democrats to leave the party then you need to understand they will either go to the Libertarians or the Greens. You just don’t get it. Or you actually do, and you are purposefully trying to hurt the Libertarian Party because you are a Democratic plant.
Nothing insane about it. He (or she) is absolutely right. And people who voted Johnson certainly did help reflect BOB.
I’m still not convinced that massive voter fraud wasn’t that much involved – think it was an unprecedented combination of all tactics — voter machine flipping, false internals, voter ID, false polling data, bribes,etc. It’s “all of the above”.
As I posted before, I have always agreed with RI about one thing — we can’t prove it and that WHI probably would say that too. The electronic fraud is such that you can’t go back and prove it as far as I have read (& other kinds as well). And, true about the many years of Dem shenanigans setting this all up, greed.
Tend to believe what UM and WHI said that it has to be more than just the internals. What I didn’t like about RI this time is his pointing his fingers in WHI’s face, saying it was all his fault type thing. Yes, he softened it up a little – but that was a little much. WHI has humbly repeatedly confessed and apologized for his part in the past about this. That’s what makes him sort of “endearing”. He admits his faults and this time he admits he probably believed lies about the internals as soon as it was pointed out.
However, I’m glad that RI seemed to loosen up a bit and give more interesting answers. Seems to be open to the idea that some of his fellow Repubs., RNC didn’t WANT Romney to win and were in on this. Good. I have read others “in the know” say that also. I hope he does continue to check on that and expose what he finds.
The reason I keep harping about this voter fraud is not b/c I think you can prove it for this election. I want it to become the #1 issue to be pushed enough so that ppl will realize this MUST be fixed before 2014 if at all possible. Maybe ban all electronic voting if you can’t get some software in them that counters flipping — whatever. It’s just simply a MUST or ALL is for naught. You have to recognize a problem before you can fix it. Otherwise, you will see the same stuff being done to win them their elections from here on out. Plus, of course, the other stuff we could do – like passing the voter ID laws, etc.
So far though, doesn’t change my opinion the GOP is too far gone and we are out of time and the only way is new Third Party, correct voter fraud enough for more “honest” elections before 2014. Perhaps RI and all other “troublemakers” (btw, thank you RI for being one) — should seriously think about joining, helping with that Third Party…….
I’m still calling BS. Romney’s momentum was palpable in the numbers of supporters, the crowds. Obama was getting nothing like he did last election. The enthusiasm just wasn’t there for him. Small crowds, Not much in the way of “Obamamania” like last time. The crowds at the campaign stops didn’t lie. People wanted to be rid of Obama and most wouldn’t care whether it was Mickey Mouse running against him . . . they wanted him out. There was vote flipping going on in the swing states. No one, NO ONE can convince me otherwise. Sorry, RI.
I wholeheartedly agree! All the things you mentioned plus hands on fraud-bussing people to other states that allow same day registration, non-Voter ID states, so they can cast multiple votes, the military vote debacle, etc. There was sickening, blatant voter fraud, that no one is doing anything about.
Agree 100%. The crowds for each were so very different. And like I said about the Akin/McCaskill race, just because Akin may have said something that some people didn’t like, he is/was the best candidate all the way and just what us conservatives were looking for. People didn’t like McCaskill at all and they would not change their vote to her just because of one comment. Likewise I feel like people were FIRED UP to vote AGAINST Obama for any-freakin-body just to get him out of our White House. People genuinely hate him and the Mooch and would not be staying home “out of principal” knowing how evil they both are. Yeah, some people (me included) did not feel Romney was the best candidate we could have had but I do feel that he loves America and has her best interests at heart unlike the jugeared jackass who is being very successful pulling off his Cloward-Piven strategy while making the R’s look bad. He wants this cliff. He is orgasmic about it and all his little socialist friends. Now just remove the debt ceiling for him and his work can proceed unhindered.
Got to agree. I think Romney ended up 74,000 votes short in Florida, officially,
less than 1%. There was a lot of known fraud in that state. A lot of fraud was also observed in PA, Ohio and Wisconsin. I think it adds up. I also know there were a lot of extremely ignorant voters for Obama, fraud and lying from the media, here in Michigan the unions were pushing for Obama and telling some big, dumb lies about Romney. It was not a fair fight. Obama is one of the most corrupt human being elected to anything.
If history has taught us anything, it is that despots generally come to sticky ends. Let us hope, for Obama’s sake, he is not a despot.
Yup.
Looking at the overall election totals, being so close, I still believe that the election was stolen. That being said, our republic is on the precipice. The Democratic “machine” has done an effective job at compromising media conglomerates, Hollywood (all unionized), Teachers Unions and the takeover of education resulting in more than a generation of far left liberal indoctrination….all good little Democrats, they. They have also done a very good job of manipulating and using minorities to their own ends, keeping them down and independent. Good job there WHI. Time you jump ship and help to undue the damage.
Ooops – mean “down and dependent!”
RI is absolutely right about the WHI’s tactics paved the way for Obama. Yes, but this is what politics is about. War without bullets.
Nixon did not fight back.
Bush clearly was responsible for leaving prisoners of war behind in Vietnam, thst is why the third party was a problem. I don’t know if the demsheviks set this up, but Bush was a problem from the beginning.
For ages I said the Bush family is very much responsible for our country’s debacle, as the repubic establishment’s embodiment.
The demsheviks played dirty,Obama played dirty on Hillary, so, the repubics should have known who they were dealing with.
Thisis the problem, the wrong people are faking a fight for the country with the bare knuckle bolsheviks the democrat party is today.
Beli-ache as much as you want, but until we have a much more aggressive conservative party, we will always lose, because conservatism requires education and morals.
T\Look at the typical demshevik voter: either committed commies, lazy people, low information people or people (minorities) with grievances against the country and how it was founded.
Face it, folks, it is much easier to be part of the agreeved 47% than otherwise.
WHI tried to do his best, however, the train put in motion decades ago was impossible to be stopped.
RI is absolutely right about the WHI’s tactics paved the way for Obama. Yes, but this is what politics is about. War without bullets.
Nixon did not fight back.
Bush clearly was responsible for leaving prisoners of war behind in Vietnam, thst is why the third party was a problem. I don’t know if the demsheviks set this up, but Bush was a problem from the beginning.
For ages I said the Bush family is very much responsible for our country’s debacle, as the repubic establishment’s embodiment.
The demsheviks played dirty,Obama played dirty on Hillary, so, the repubics should have known who they were dealing with.
Thisis the problem, the wrong people are faking a fight for the country with the bare knuckle bolsheviks the democrat party is today.
Bellyache as much as you want, but until we have a much more aggressive conservative party, we will always lose, because conservatism requires education and morals.
T\Look at the typical demshevik voter: either committed commies, lazy people, low information people or people (minorities) with grievances against the country and how it was founded.
Face it, folks, it is much easier to be part of the agrieved 47% than otherwise.
WHI tried to do his best, however, the train put in motion decades ago was impossible to be stopped.
You all have to understand something.
The Republicrat Party was infiltrated by Leftists long ago. That is clearly getting worse. Some of those now appear to be high up in Congress and the Republican Party.
Why do you all think we’ve been given a long list of losers to vote for?
Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney…
I think the RNC was genuinely surprised when Shrub won and any idea he was a conservative is beyond laughable.
Anyhow, point is this: We get left leaning “moderates” who have almost no chance of winning.
Then when they lose, the leftwing operatives in the Party blather on about how we have to go to the left.
You’re all being played.
And you have to give them credit, they are damn good at deception, manipulation, lies and propaganda. It’s all in their nature. We will never beat them at those things.
Bingo.
Marxists don’t choose one party to infiltrate, they attack on ALL fronts. Period. End of story.
Very interesting, UM. I’ll admit I was somewhat skeptical about RI because in previous articles he came across as a bit of a cheerleader, seemingly more interested in bucking up the troops, than stating unpleasant facts.
From this three-headed dialogue, the real truth seems to be emerging. As in many cases, things are more complicated than they originally appear. If, in fact, polling was corrupted by bribery, then why not major media outlets? One thing I learned years ago from a friendly newspaper editor/publisher is that some news stories, editorials and letters were not published locally because certain major advertisers (especially in real estate-related businesses which are the backbone of print media) did not like anything that cast a negative light on their business interests.
Given the venality and smarminess of some of the talking heads who regularly pollute the airwaves with their cries of racism, sexism and all the other accusations they hurl at anyone who opposes Obama – why would they not also have their hands out for a little money to supplement their day jobs in failing old media outlets? Isn’t that the Chicago way?
Perhaps the big-money bankrollers of this year’s superpacs should fund real opposition research operations aimed directly at those media shills. Instead of producing commercials most people don’t want to watch, hire investigators to look into bank accounts, personal expenditures and private lives of those who made electing Barack Obama their most important mission in life. All those “journo-listers” from so many different backgrounds and so many different cities might just have some things in common they don’t want their readers/viewers to know.
Alas, that is what many of us thought WSI was all about. Perhaps we were sold a bill of goods as well. I seem to recall at one point even WHI wondered aloud if WSI had too much to lose if Bengazi came to center stage.
Just goes to show you can’t depend on anyone else to do the heavy lifting.
I live in the swing state of Florida. I’ve been following the politics here since before I could vote.
And I can tell you without a doubt that fraud was *decisive* here. It was the Obama campaign’s fraud, and of course someone working with the Obama campaign to make it close enough to steal in the first place. This statement isn’t based on internals or polls or turnout models or anything else like that.
The proof is in the results of the ballot initiatives. The Obama campaign gave the plot away when they rigged the ballot initiatives along with the Presidential election. In the absence of the massively irregular results of the ballot initiatives, it could have been possible to (as RI is attempting) to chalk it up to bad internals and Romney being the wrong candidate. But it’s the ballot initiatives that make it clear that Floridians didn’t decide the election here.
Most of the ballot initiatives went down hard, even no-brainer tax cuts, in a state that has a near-flawless historic track record of approving almost all ballot initiatives regardless of what they’re about (we even once approved a ballot initiative to make it harder to approve ballot initiatives!). The result of the ballot initiatives in 2012 simply are not the results that actual Florida residents produce.
Now I have no idea how they actually pulled this off. Maybe the fraud was all electronic. Maybe they rounded up thousands of illegals and brought them to the polls. But whatever they did, they stole the election in Florida.
And if this was repeated in just Ohio and Virginia and one other state, it was enough to steal the entire election.
I can guarantee one other thing. The Republican Party was not in on this election theft. At least not here in Florida. The ballot initiatives were put on the ballot by the Republican legislature. I’m positive they didn’t trash their own ballot initiatives along with Romney.
As for what I mentioned about someone working with Obama to ensure that it was close enough to steal in the first place, those someones were Gary Johnson and, to a lesser degree, Ron Paul.
After the 2000 election debacle, the demsheviks understood they need to infiltrate the elections offices and officers.
Soros gave them more money after the 2004 election, and Obama just perfected the game.
it is enough to steal a few districts, where you have enough control, to change the state vote.
And if you do it in key states, you winn the national election!
It’s as simple as that.
exactly how Hillary could not figure out how Obama stole the primaries from her, the repubics could not figure that out.
If you add the bolshevik education of key Obama people and campaign manafers, you realize Romney never stood a chance, besides being the wrong candidate at the wrong time.
The fact that RI is so very sure that the election theft cannot be proven, suggests that he knows exactly how it was done.
Did the GOP lift a finger to help Mr West?
Worse… The Republican Secretary of State and the Republican Governor of Florida, DID certified results from precincts showing above 100% participation results!
They wanted West out. All the Reps wanted him out.
Beware what you wish for!
FYI, these are the ones behind the decision to throw conservatives under the bus. (Boehner gave himself 5 votes and Cantor 2, so there are actually a total of 36 votes on each committee assignment decision. Here is the list of the committee members (note Paul Ryan is one):
John Boehner Speaker
Eric Cantor Republican Leader
Paul Ryan Chairman Budget Committee
Kevin McCarthy Republican Whip
Peter Roskam Chief Deputy Whip
Cathy McMorris-Rodgers Republican Conference Chair
James Lankford Policy Chair
Lynn Jenkins Conference Vice-Chair
Virginia Foxx Conference Secretary
Greg Walden NRCC Chairman
Tom Cole NRCC Chairman (former)
Hal Rogers Chairman Appropriations Committee
Fred Upton Chairman Energy & Commerce Committee
Jeb Hensarling Chairman Financial Services
Pete Sessions Rules Committee
Dave Camp Chairman Ways & Means Committee
Lamar Smith Texas Representative
Doc Hastings Region I Representative
Tom Latham Region II Representative
John Shimkus Region III Representative
Mike Rogers Region IV Representative
Bill Shuster Region V Representative
Pat Tiberi Region VI Representative
Steve Scalise Region VII Representative
Lynn Westmoreland Region VIII Representative
Bob Goodlatte Region IX Representative
Ken Calvert Region X Representative
Jeff Miller Region XI Representative
Cynthia Lummis Small State Representative
Joe Heck 112th Class Representative
Richard Hudson 113th Class Representative
WELL!!!,,,that was certainly E-X-C-I-T-I-N-G!!!
We’re finally getting somewhere!!!
This next part is something VERY FEW,,,political operatives talk about,above a whisper…. .Many voters know already what “RI” is speaking of(those of us that have sought the truth,that is).. The Shit goes ALLL the way back to the votes being DUMPED in Lake Michigan(Kennedy election).
About time,,,,the veil is lifted!!!!
And….the good news and some bad news….re the vote yesterday in the Senate re U.N. Treaty that would surrender our soverignty to U.N. Nine wonderful “Repubs.” voted FOR it but the good news is 38 didn’t and so didn’t pass…..miracles are still happening!!!!
“Nine Republicans made their very best efforts to cause Americans to lose their sovereignty in a vote in the United States Senate on Wednesday, December 05, 2012.
This action in our very own government chambers if approved would have meant a great victory for the corrupt and grossly greedy United Nations by gaining a strong measure of control over the United States as has been planned and programmed by the traitorous and prevaricating usurper president and his Socialist-Communist followers in the U. S. Senate.
That measure of control would have been the capture of our sovereignty had the Senate bill labeled ‘Treaty Doc 112-7 not been rejected by a vote of 61 to 38, failing to reach the 67 votes needed. If passed it would have meant that for the first time in the 237 years of our history we would have lost our sovereign rule to a foreign power, namely the United Nations gang of cut-throat thieves, bandits and would-be world rulers.
That Senate vote saw all 53 liberal Democrats (2 of whom have phony Independent labels but are flaming liberal Democrats at heart; Bernie Sanders-VT and Joe Lieberman-CT) vote in favor of this traitorous Treaty where our once secure and independent freedom was guaranteed would have been lost.
But even worse was the spectacle of EIGHT traitors who were elected by mostly conservative voters who were Republicans while another one (Kirk-IL) just did not vote; so NINE defectors from the GOP in all.
Thankfully, THIRTY EIGHT true conservatives, honest and loyal to their constituents, opposed the provisions of the proposed United Nations Treaty and for the moment, saved our sovereignty.
While we should be thanking the 38 Republican U. S. Senators for providing the force to stop the U. N. takeover of our self-rule, the eight villains of infamy who sold us down the river of greed should be marked for not only defeat at reelection but disgraced pariah status until that date. Loss of sovereignty is that serious.
The “Awful Eight”: Kelly Ayotte – NH; John Barrasso – WY; Scott Brown – MA; Sue Collins – ME (and her partner) Olympia Snowe – ME; Dick Lugar – IN; John McCain – AZ; Lisa Murkowskit – AK.”
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51583
Shared your story here,,although, i chopped it a bit,,,gave you credit.Hope you do not mind,if you do let me know,I will remove…
No, no – not at all – the more sharing the better !!!! Thanks for doing it too…….
I don’t think you can pick on Sen Kirk (R-Ill).
“But even worse was the spectacle of EIGHT traitors who were elected by mostly conservative voters who were Republicans while another one (Kirk-IL) just did not vote; so NINE defectors from the GOP in all.”
He is the one that ultimately won the jugeared jackass’s old seat and subsequently had a “mysterious stroke”. He is just planning his return to the Senate in Jan. I am not sure though if he has been voting or having someone vote for him.
Yeah, I remember him and about the stroke – felt really sorry for him and prayed he would get better. Who knows why he didn’t vote….we’ll see what he does when he returns.
….and yet Romney consisently attracted 30,000 to 40,000
rallies…while Obama with the free entertainment
of big attraction Bruce Springteen could not garner
over 1,200 warm bodies…Sorry. I call bullshit…it was
stolen and the only opportunity for salvation for the
USA is to stop the certification of the vote….
59 districts and not a single vote went to Romney….not believable
Especially considering the ignorance and downright stupidity of Obama’s voters!
Call the wimps and the ashats in DC and see if you can move
The thieves to do the right thing…
RI 3 pts
WHI 1 Pt
I do give credit to RI on his statement,
“The entertainment world….they all played their part in this. The danger to the United States right now…it’s all of them…it’s a lack of education among the public…it’s greed. And like I said…it’s been a long time in the making…and unfortunately…my own Republican Party has played a part in this as well. I can think of 1980…when the Reagan campaign following a meeting with the Rockefeller wing of the party, agreed to take on George H.W. Bush as their VP choice…we could go back to the election of Kennedy in 1960…Chicago…the manipulation that took place with the 3rd party nonsense that set up Clinton in 1992…”
This shows some intelligence beyond his current communication methods. I will take back some of my so called ……anger at RI. Not all of it. He still hasn’t shown (and maybe there is a reason we will learn later) us what the republicans can and will do to change this situation.
The whole Syria/Benghazi situation is not unraveling before the situation is critical and irreversible.
I eagerly await to hear more on this.
Okay RI I’m listening…….
Shouldn’t worry about hurting his feelings or anything with your ‘anger,’ if you voiced it. Why, think nothing of it. You know how quick to forgive the Republicans are.
Yes, after being trod on all over by the leftists, Republican “leaders” will only look up and say, “Thank you for sparing my life. Pay me no mind. Since I’m already down here anyway, just kick me as you pass.”
Sorry RI, but smug and confrontational doesn’t cut it.
Admittedly, the idea of the faked internals setting Romney’s campaign up for failure is an intriguing concept and caught me as flat footed as it did WHI.
But there is no denying the facts. The public support for Romney, as demonstrated by the turnout at his appearances, caused the very air around the country to crackle with electricity while Obama couldn’t fill a gymnasium.
Did you watch the trajectory of the voting numbers on election night? Check out Wisconsin. 55/48 for Romney until the very last minute when a wave like a hurricane surge swept through for Obama. State after state went the same way. It may be possible to manipulate by choosing when to report certain precincts, but for no real reason and not to that degree. I’ll never buy it.
The election was STOLEN. Why else would Jarrett send her flying monkey to Chicago a week before election to threaten “payback time WHEN we’re reelected”?
“Flying monkey” —- I’d laugh (well, I did a little bit) – but it’s much, much too tragicly serious – I know. Like the old saying “laughing to keep from crying”…..
Yes. STOLEN.
Just let is echo: STOLEN, STOLEn, STOLen, STOlen, STolen, Stolen, stolen ….
Obama’s win was not just a case of internals or other polls or turnout predictions being off. What we got were results that defy logic. (Political analysts on all sides seem to be distracted by generalizing analogies, i.e., “it’s just like 2004,” and they’re missing the devil in the details.)
The bottom line is that if someone had shown me these election results without telling me where they came from, I would have concluded that they were made up from whole cloth.
….or that they came from Venezuela
I’m not buying the “false internals” theory.
I made a point all Summer and Fall to not be checking poll results every day. I didn’t want to strap in for the same emotional roller-coaster ride I got in 2008.
But I checked the cable channels and websites like Real Clear to get the the clips of both campaigns making the rounds on the networks.
From the time of the first debate thru to the superstorm, it was clear to me from watching Obama and his campaign spokesmen and other Democrats that they knew they were loosing. It was like they saw death coming. That all changed quickly with the advent of the storm.
I think they already had their fraud-model laid out, but were apprehensive because the whole country could feel the momentum going Romney’s way after the first debate and the Obama team felt the fraud would be too obvious to pull off believably.
The storm changed that. They used that as a pathetically unbelievable scenario to explain how the momentum changed.
Santana,
I think you got something there. You are right. The timing of Sandy and what Obama team said as related by WHI (we are going to blow Sandy up their A..) and the timing of Jarret aid comment in Chicago. It all fits.
They had the model in place but were not sure to be able to get away with it in view of the Romney’s Momentum. Sandy gave them an excuse to revert the narrative thru the JournaLISTs and soften the terrain to prepare for the election day shock of an Obama’s victory.
We know have the real unemployment number for October and November and they are showing that Sandy had NO effect on the unemployment. Basically Sandy had no National effect. It had a very localized effect.
Sandy did not revert the numbers. But Romney lead evaporated in the polls post Sandy. That might be where and when the polling corporations got “influenced”.
The media narrative was pushing the Sandy’s effect and the polling outfits wanted to get it right so close to the elections. So they followed suit, not out of outright bribery, but out of self-protection and survival. They anticipated the “Sandy Effect” in their results fulfilling the self-prophecy of the Obama Machine.
Strange that the storm changed everything. There are some who say it was engineered that way by HAARP.
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/10/29/conspiracy-theorists-say-obama-engineered-hurricane-sandy
I was completely stunned to see the magnetometers heating up the east and the west coast, in order to suck the cold air in the middle, to be pushed to the East Coast just in time for the hurricane, to create the biggest cold-hot air collision, FOR CLOSE TO WEEK PRIOR to Sandy.
I never put much weight behind the HAARP conspiracy until now.
Besides, being an EE I understand better than most how directed electromagnetic energy can be applied.
There is something to it.
Follow this:
http://www.haarpstatus.com/haarpstatus/haarpmap.html
Are we already in a war with the chinese (?) or the russians (?), using directed energy weapons?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread905454/pg1
I’ve heard the same thing as charlotte.
I’ve also heard that the reason why Romney was stopped was because Romney would have led us to war with Iran.
There’s a part of me that can appreciate that because I’m really sick of the military actions we’ve engaged in since 9-11 and wouldn’t readily support a war with Iran, regardless of the reasoning and who was President.
Have you followed the disaster in the ME, especially Syria and Libya Obama is creating?
What do you think Iran and Russia will do?
You are delusional if you think Obama is a “dove”.
No, he is as dangerous as any commie, who started so many wars..
http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/04/colorado-counties-have-more-voters-than-people
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/08/philly-polling-stations-where-gop-inspectors-were-kicked-out-had-90-voter-turnout-99-voted-for-obama
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/11/thousands-report-voting-problems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILJDudUpct0&feature=share
Republicans suffer from normalcy bias to a fault.
As far as I’m concerned, they’re nearly as nihilistic as the Demsheviks. They’ve completely split from f-cking reality.
Until Republicans understand their enemy, they will continue to slide further into oblivion.
RI, do yourself a favor and learn about the Marxist movement in America…their goals, their tactics and their collaboration with international Marxist organizations.
Lastly, take a look at the origins of the U.N. and its founders…i.e. Ralph Bunche. The U.N. was created by Marxists and has served Marxist interests since day one.
And don’t make the mistake of confusing Marxists with dimwitted, misguided European Socialists. They’re two very different animals.
VOTER FRAUD, PLAIN N SIMPLE. ALL THOSE TEARS bho shed just before election day were because he knew he was toast. Also spoke with local campaigners who saw fraud with their own eyes. Don’t believe RI, spin doctor. Re: 90 million voters, if U read the actual article, 207m registered voters, 126m voted, 90 million stayed home. She mentioned instances of v fraud, too.
I can believe that Obama won in 2008. People were tired of W, and they wanted to be part of the historic election of the first black president.
But in 2012? Nope. All the bright and shiny had worn off the Obama promises. High gas prices, low credit rating, gutted space program, unrelenting unemployment, record food stamps, unexplained Fast & Furious, union thuggishness, constant accusations of racism, and a neverending stream of lies every time Obama opened his mouth. The energy came from the people who wanted to get back the America we knew and loved. I couldn’t wait to vote. The people who turned out in their tens of thousands at Romney rallies couldn’t wait to vote.
The 2012 election was stolen. Period.
RI finally talks truth. RI confirms what I thought – that Romney seemed to stop fighting at one point, and that was after the 1st debate when he came off well. I also agree with RI that the Republican Party is run by a bunch of RINOs (traitors) and until we change things at the top and get rid of them. It’s obvious to many of us that they are working for the Democrats.
Eight Traitor RINOs Cuddle Up to Treasonous LibDems But Fail to Approve U.N. Treaty http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51583
Sorry to rain on everyone’s party but none of this means anything. Voter fraud or not, we are here. Too many people are suffering from normalcy bias refusing to face the fact that we have been taken over and it has happened in real time, not down the road. Our freedoms will continue to evaporate as long as all of us sit on our butts and do nothing but listen to people chattering about this. What are we waiting for? More executive orders, more broken laws, more destruction of the constitution? NOW is the window and it is closing fast. Wake up! Listening to these two means nothing anymore. Turn and face your reality, stop being afraid, straighten out your mind and prepare for what lies ahead.
We need to exhaust all peaceful routes. Do not file taxes, protests in front of White House. We need to think in this way and start talking to people, otherwise this monster is going to grow too strong and it will be many many decades before freedom is seen again.
Some inspiration:
Walk like an egyptian: Ilana Mercer
http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/walk-like-an-egyptian/
Zelda,
I have been down this road before. And I am terrified. I know how this is going to play.
This only slavation the US will have the opportunity to seize will come at such a price of destruction and sufferance, I cry just thinking about it.
How horrible is it to wish for a war? But this is the only thing which MAY knock some sense into all these useful idiots minds.
I am not that far behind from WHI in this. F..k all those little commies. All these brats we raised in our McMansions with not a worry in the world, and who are selling their freedom down the drain to light up and live without God in their life.
But then I think about all the good kids out there who are never gonna have the right to dream the way we dreamed, and I am nearly overcome by waves of rage.
I am spending a lot of time on my knees praying these days. I’m telling you that much.
Yes, I agree prayer is powerful and we all must continue to pray and ask forgiveness for what we have allowed to happen. Prayer is the fuel that will start the engine for us to do the things that will need to be done and that includes laying ourselves and our “things” down so others can be free.
Here’s why I’m not buying the whole Republican Insider (RI) soap opera:
If he was truly on our side he would be talking about the 12th Amendment & the fact that on Dec. 17, when the Electoral College meets, all it would take to END Obama’s re-election, is a lack of quorum. That’s right, if 17 state’s electors don’t show up, the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WOULD GET TO CHOOSE THE NEXT PRESIDENT. That’s right the Republican-dominated House of Representatives would choose OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.
But instead of that info, what we get from the so-called Republican Insider, is this ridiculous statement:
“RI: I didn’t want to go here with you because it doesn’t…there’s nothing we can do. The election is over. I don’t take pleasure in…”
Nothing we can do?? As if it’s a foregone conclusion! Who needs that attitude? If the Dems thought the election was stolen by Romney, there would be Dem senators &congressmen crawling all over the talk shows, Sharpton & union thugs would be marching on Washington & DEMANDING a thorough investigation & for heads to roll: “NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!” Now, suppose that they thought Romney or any other Repub president-elect wasn’t eligible or had Obama’s record of destruction etc?
“Man up!” says RI. Good advise for all of us, if u don’t consider the source.
Make some calls to state leaders in all the states who came out for Romney in droves. Work on them to boycott the Dec. 17 meeting. Then maybe show your support by PEACEFULLY visiting those states’ capitals or OUR NATION’S CAPITAL prior to the meeting. Wear comfortable shoes, maybe borrow some of Sharpton’s bullhorns…
AMERICANS ARE NOT COWARDS SO PLEASE LET’S JUST STOP ROLLING OVER AND PEEING ON OURSELVES!!
(Read more: LINK: http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/11/how-obama-can-be-stopped-in-electoral-college/ )
Seriously, if PerpWalk is right, why aren’t we doing it? If all the damned can walk out in Wisconsin, why not the rev state electors. N please don’t give me the eunuchs prayer of “If we do that, they’ll do it to us.” I don’t care ifc there are riots. Thats going to happen anyway on the direction we are headed now.
We cannot give in to violence or illegal actions. All we have to do is get more organized. The Tea Party doesn’t seem to be doing enough to organize protests.
WHY AREN’T CONSERVATIVES INVESTING IN THE MSM AND HOLLYWOOD?? PROPAGANDA IS WINNING, THANKS TO THEM.
By all means, do anything and everything possible to turn things around.
But, unfortunately, I fear the peaceful venues have lost their effectiveness against this brazen enemy.
I sense no outrage in RI.
Perhaps when RI pulls HIS HEAD OUT OF HIS ASS….and reads this…and begins a heated movement NOT TO CERTIFY THE VOTE….as it was fraud
100,000 registered yets 144,000 vote…or 59 districts without a single Romney vote..
.Tell me insider?…Is it POLITICALLY CORRECT to simply GIVE UP THE COUNTRY…..TO THE COMMUNISTS…?
‘EFF YOU, CHICKEN SHIT
REFUSE TO CERTIFY THE VOTE….IT WAS FRAUD
live and LEARN…
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Where 2012 Election Theft Began
My children, you can be forgiven for not knowing any better in what DW Ulsterman posts from the insiders, because you weren’t there from the beginning. Look in at the grease shine in that red glow of the White House Insider, to the way Shalom Wall Street drops his gaze and that Military Insider, the way he always sits in that stiff way before he speaks.
Same with that GOP Bonzo for Rand Paul that is making the coordinated Jeb Bush rounds, like for Alex Jones leverage you all off base like the Ron Paul backers for junior in this 2016 sideshow. It is the things they never say off script which reveals the game they are about, as none of them really was ever there when things went down.
You really want to know the guts of Obama’s 2012 election theft? I told you where to look and it was in rural Ohio as they figured out the way to wipe out the vote that Karl Rove flipped for Mitt Romney who were going to vote for Aspen Freiss’ Rick Santorum.
That is what got Puffy Lips in trouble with Roger Ailes as the CIA Mockingbird chirper knew Obama had stolen the election before the day and knew that Rove’s vote flipping were not going to get Ohio into the Romney camp……it was all about Uncle Roger warning the vote manipulators not to complain too much or it would expose all this vote fraud the entire bunch knew of and knew how it was all being coordinated.
You really want to know how Obama stole all of this, then you had to be there before 2008. Shit pot Hannah, girl from Tarzana, most of you children were not even sperm donated back in the day that Obama had all of this laid out and I’m about to give you history lesson again, as I spoke of this previously, but too many of Michael’s skirts keep waving it to the wind after stealing things from this blog trying to impress the pinter.
I got two words for you to explain it all for 2012 and they are Leo Thorsness.
Leo Thorsness is a hero, a real one in Congressional Medal of Honor bona fides. He should be President today and would be if George McGovern hadn’t groomed a little electioneering stooge with a military background called Tom Daschle of South Dakota.
Starting to have a few names that ring the bells now?
Daschle stole the first election he ran for and it was close. Had help though from a lardo Minnesotan named Steve Hemingsen that was the big mouth running things at the Mockingbird television studio in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Hemingsen just kept putting it out that Thorsness was angry……..hell who wouldn’t be after being screwed over in Vietnam like all America was, but that got Daschle in the margin to “win” by a less than percent margin for error.
Daschle set up election theft on the old Lyndon Johnson vote scamming in Texas. Daschle stuffed Indian reservation ballots to a perfection and it was him who got Tim Johnson the election stole when John Thune ran against him, with that damned Tony Dean Bonzo Republican helping things out.
Johnson did such a bad job, that it infuriated the Bush team which was being run by Bill Janklow, and Thune turned the full wrath on Tom Daschle and the rest was Daschle being canned by the Bonzo’s in breaking that Indian vote machination.
What does this have to with Obama?
If you paid attention, you would know already.
Daschle ran the Obama campaign election theft machinery. He set it up with his crony Hildebrand who is a fag vote getter. They tied it all into ACORN. Penny Pritzker laundered the money in 2008 from terrorists. David Axelrod ran the smear Lawrence Sinclair, Sarah Palin and John Edwards campaign………Sinclair graduated to Joe Biden and his syndicate out of Delware did a Chris Stevens on Lawrence Sinclair in real political crimes waged against him, and Moma Jarrett did the robotron thing in keeping Barry Chin from jacking off on stage in that Alice in Wonderland programming.
Yeah all exclusives here and in the archives.
None of the Obama machinery ended with ACORN. It all just ramped up a few dozen notches in using the Big Three in Scytl, SOE and Sequoia……..sure I know Sequoia is no longer the name, but hell the plagiarists don’t and it exposes them for being nits on the wit.
You got a problem when your dog is weighed in flea weight.
Lame Cherry
Where was I?
OK so Obama got this Scytl software, but that casino software the genius had rigged for him after he was murdered….that Spaniard guy it was that Michelle Malkin can’t seem to verify as she verified Obama election theft for Scytl……….where was I?
So Obama got this software which pukes out wins for Marxists worldwide, but the problem is it has a degree of “beyond the odds” which has never been explained before.
So this is it, so Michael’s skirts can coo in emails how sexy the pinter is.
Where was I?
Sure I’m running a psyops operation here and by admitting it, it is a better operation as there will be a hitch in their step.
Where was I?
No, I don’t run psyops on you children. I don’t tease dogs either as trust is important.
Where was I?
Ok so we got this software and it is casino. See a casino always wins by the odds as the number of throws in any game always will favor the casino. Scytl was finding ways to project winners in Rain Man counting, and by allowing winners only on the small bets to give the illusion the gamblers were winning.
Not that complicated, but this is the deal in voting, in when the public hates Obama and wants his ass out of office, that means the house in Obama’s cards, is stacked with all the Aces from a dozen decks. Obama can’t win in a hand like that, so there has to be some literal vote sabotage to make the Scytl software perform to what it was designed for.
You have to understand that point children in Scytl is exposed, or it’s intelligence trolls are in they were not able to graduate this software to a new generation of dealing with complicated vote manipulation. It still in 2012 required hands on ballot dumping, and that is what got Roger Ailes all pissy in this as Karl Rove has thing for the two O’s in OhiO, and was possessive of it in wanting it as his to look like he knew something, and by spouting off exposed the electioneering going on.
Ohio was like all the states in this according to real polling, was to fall for Romney. Rove knew Ohio would as he stole it in the summer, but Rove did not know that Obama dusted off the old process of those South Dakota crooks and was going across the board flipping votes in key areas to make the Scytl software print out an Obama win.
There is not just a one tier vote theft going on in America, but a multi teired operation which was unleashed in 2012. Puff Lips Rove met Puff Cheeks Obama and Barry Chin manipulated it beyond what Rove could comprehend.
This is the missing link in the Obama election theft which really made no sense. It was those radar waves though which were in the rural areas coupled with literal Al Franken magic voting.
I had enough of this as am tired. Nothing interesting about about a dead nation and all the brats standing around waiting for Obama to raise the dead Virgin from the grave.
nuff said