American Ambassador Stevens “Killed By Lethal Injection”

If true – a blockbuster of a report from Bill Gertz at the Washington Free Beacon that is supportive of earlier theories regarding the motivations for what really went on before, during, and soon after the Benghazi Massacre…

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Al Qaeda weapons expert: U.S. ambassador to Libya  killed by lethal injection

Group sought to kidnap Stevens for exchange of  imprisoned terrorists

An al Qaeda terrorist stated in a  recent online posting that U.S. Ambassador to Libya J.  Christopher Stevens was killed by lethal injection after plans to kidnap him  during the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi went bad.

The veracity of the claim by Abdallah  Dhu-al-Bajadin, who was identified by U.S.  officials as a weapons expert for al  Qaeda, could not be determined. However, U.S. officials have not dismissed  the terrorist’s assertion.

An FBI spokeswoman  indicated that the bureau is aware of the claim but declined to comment because  of the FBI’s ongoing  investigation into the Benghazi attacks.

“While there is a great deal of information in the media and on the Internet  about the attack in Benghazi, the FBI  is not in a position at this time to comment on anything specific with regard to  the investigation,” spokeswoman Kathy Wright  said.

A State Department spokesman had  no comment.

…According to a March 14 posting on an al  Qaeda-linked website, Dhu-al-Bajadin  stated that Stevens was given a  lethal injection that was overlooked during the autopsy.

The “plan was based on abduction and exchange of high-level prisoners,” the  terrorist wrote on the prominent jihadist Web forum Ansar  al-Mujahideen Network. “However, the operation took another turn, for a reason  God only knows, when one of the members of the jihadist cell improvised and  followed Plan B.”

READ ENTIRE ARTICLE HERE :  LINK

 

Even if you remove the speculative theory regarding the death by lethal injection, and/or the kidnapping plot gone wrong, the Free Beacon report raises a very important component of the Benghazi Massacre story that has gone unreported for far too long – the American autopsy results for Ambassador Stevens.  The only autopsy information received was one reportedly performed at a Benghazi hospital that later Congressional testimony indicated was controlled by terrorist groups.  Surely the Obama government performed another autopsy on the body of the first U.S. ambassador killed in the line of duty in over thirty years – right?  And yet -  NOT ONE WORD has come out regarding any such autopsy.

As for the kidnapping gone wrong theory, that has been indicated by various alternative media blogs for some time now, including but not limited to, the often interesting Lame Cherry.

What is certain, is that there are figures within the Obama administration who very much want to eliminate the possibility of the truth about the Benghazi Massacre from every reaching the American public.     -UM

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47 Comments to American Ambassador Stevens “Killed By Lethal Injection”
    • Perceptible Future
    • “What difference does it make? Their DEAD!” : Hillary.

      All you immoral, lying, thieving, criminals in D.C. It’s a BIG effing difference. This transcends all this manufactured Right/Left Bullsh*t and strikes at the heart of murder. The murder of OUR citizens. The callous disregard of OUR citizens! Every individual who stood by and allowed the “willful” disregard for the protection and safety of these brave men is guilty of conspiring in allowing their murder.

      To me this reminds me of reading about Emperor Nero and his perversions just as Rome burned.

      There is a sickness in this land. Pray for her people, pray for repentance, or I fear, all is lost.

    • CHHR, VA
    • I have to agree, what difference does it make… not only are they DEAD, they were abandoned by a government that could give a rat’s tail… I’m sure McDermott et al will find a way to pontificate how it’s Bush’s fault and that Stevens somehow deserved it anyway. Oh wait, sorry, that’s the diversion scandal about the IRS… can’t keep them straight any more.

      Besides, just like all these other scandals, this is oh so very old news. Anyone with any sense of thinking capability already figured out the entire thing was played out to force the exchange of the Blind Sheikh… but then we live in a partisan time when all that matters is the “black man in the white house.”

      I have but one question… why now? We’ve known about all of this for quite some time, way before the 2012 cycle. The IRS targeting, the secret emails, the stuffed shirt in the WH that never seems to get his hands dirty, Benghazi, Extortion 17, Fast and Furious… wow, that’s quite some accomplishment for one administration in just 4 years.

      I’ve already been slapped in the face… the giggle now as it’s all finally getting any media attention is the sword in the back by cowards. But, like I said, why now is all this crap coming out?

    • ShainS
    • American Ambassador Stevens “Killed By Lethal Injection Obama”

      Fixed it for posterity …

      Consequences as a result: OBAMA (i.e., ZERO); thanks cowardly Republicans!

    • AmericaTheBeautiful
    • The bodies were cremated…we understood they were cremated BEFORE they came home. If this was Obama’s scheme…as in our proxy way with Russia..Russia sent in AlQaeda team B to sodimized Stevens as payback for the bitch cackling and giving the go-ahead for the same treatment of Russia’s allie Gaddaffi… What else will leak out…perhaps the five dirty bombs Obama transferred to Al Qaeda in Benghazi???….to be used to achieve Marshall Law in the US…

      • Kay112
      • @ ULSTERMAN and AtB~~

        My memory recall on two issues pertaining to Stevens…

        Supposedly his body was brought home and an autopsy was performed (in Pennsylvania – if my memory is correct) and the coroner ruled the cause of death was smoke inhalation. Also, the article I read claimed he was not sexually abused. After the autopsy was completed, he was cremated.

        Sorry, I do not recall where I read the above, but I am 98% to 100% sure of the above recollection from an article on the web.

      • Publius
      • I believe ATB is correct here. I remember reading months ago that body of Stevens was cremated before caskets arrived in US for phony ceremony with POTUS, and that Stevens’ flag-draped casket was actually empty. Couldn’t believe at the time that Stevens family would not have demanded a complete autopsy be conducted in the US.

        Since Barry and Eric have chosen to pursue Benghazi terrorist attack as a criminal matter, you have to wonder how those legal geniuses expect to prosecute perpetrators without forensic evidence an autopsy would provide.

        We all know their pursuit of perpetrators is a sham. FBI was kept away for weeks while “crime scene” was hopelessly compromised. Leader of the AQ pack has been strolling freely in and around Benghazi ever since – unafraid of drones. Barry and Eric are banking on the notion that American voters and media simply don’t care. So far, they seem to be right.

        • Kay112
        • Publius, I am sure AtB read the bodies were cremated before returning to the USA. However, there were many discrepancies on Benghazi and here is case where we had discrepancies. I remember reading Steven’s ‘remains’ were then sent to California after the autopsy in PA. I can picture the coronor who “supposedly” performed the autopsy. I think I may have read it on Breitbart. I can not swear on a stack of Bibles it was there though. This is exactly why we need answers to Benghazi. There was in fact a report out which stated Steven’s body went through an autopsy in PA.

          On another note, it actually seems more believable that the 4 bodies were cremated in Libya. Why do I say this? Because we are dealing with a backwards nation when we speak of Libya – banana republic type nation – So I can’t picture all of the high tech procedures/processes necessary by a mortician to preserve a body for the long trip back to the USA. Rigor Mortice sets in the minute the body’s last breath is taken. It is amazing how quickly a corpse begins to reek from decaying odors. The stench of death is very offensive. I have experienced my share of that smell!

          However, there was at least one article on the net stating the body went through an autopsy in the USA.

    • Kay112
    • Fact is, I have said from day one on this site — Obama is 100% to blame for these four Americans deaths! There is no doubt about it and I shall explain why. The President of the United States entered an unlawful war in Libya without the consent of the US Congress. (He thwarted the War Powers Act when he did this so yes, it was illegal – for all of you libs!) Afterward, Libya became a volatile, unstable country with some Libyans viewing Americans as evil due to their (Libyans) loved ones dying in the war waged against the Libyans and Ghaddafi.

      You and I didn’t wage the war against the Libyans; Obama did it all by himself! I will remind all of you of what I said last September… The blood of these four Americans is on Obama’s hands! There are no ifs, ands or buts about it!

    • VTX
    • Donald Young and Andrew Breitbart’s deaths are likewise the constructs of this administration, the source of their termination. LC is right about Andrew – in all things.

      One day, when Hillary is recovering or not recovering from another something-or-another and whining, or those attending her are weeping, we may say to her and those around her: “What difference does it make?” We will not be nor have been responsible for what happened to her any more than we were responsible for the empty canoe buried on the beach on the lake. She is the author of her own story, the worm turning with intent.

      One does not mock G0D; Obama called the devil his god when he thanked him for Planned Parenthood, and the Clintons once claimed they prayed about Partial Birth Abortion and were told to support it by their pretend-god. One does not conduct Satanic worship and rituals to G0D the Creator, G0D the Father and G0D the Son, or else Jezebel’s false 850 prophets of baal and asheran could have claimed they were really honoring the G0D of the Bible.

      When Obama leaves office, however he leaves, we should likewise ask his followers: “What difference does it make?” that Barry is no longer President? Ask the Bat Faced One: there would be no difference, she would say; he’s a phony, a pretender and an unskilled actor whose best role is King Erotic from a silly movie.

      Stevens’ ghost has joined Breitbart’s and Young’s and even Ghaddafi’s; the Whirlwhind is coming back around for those who arranged their murders. It will come at night and the nightterrors will be complete.

    • VTX
    • A Poem for those who set traps and are caught in their own snares (I wrote this years ago):

      A Riddle

      Sinking in sweet quicksand
      I see
      A reflection
      A creation
      An end

      A daffodil watches itself
      In the mirror,
      Blooms
      Doesn’t know what it sees
      But is lot in the reflection
      Anyway

      A fly
      Fascinated by the spider
      As it nears
      That it called
      Tap tap tap
      On the web

      The quicksand awaits
      Alone
      It didn’t create itself
      But it did

    • VTX
    • “And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said’
      He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils
      he casteth out devils.”

      Jesus’ response:
      ‘”…All sins shall be forgiven
      unto the sons of men…but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit hath
      never forgiveness”‘ because, they said, he hath an unclean spirit.”

      In other words, the attribution of His healing to the devil, attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to the devil – inasmuch as this is so, those who profess that the Holy Spirit has made them to sin are similarly in danger of damnation.

      There is a sin unto death, and you cannot pray the devil out of his destination of damnation, nor can you pray those who have blasphemed the Holy Spirit out of theirs. One cannot thank G0D for the murderers of babies and escape eternal damnation, because it is a blasphemy, and one cannot claim that prayers for answers on whither to murder the almost-born were endorsed by the Holy One of Israel.

      There is a sin unto death, and it is G0D’s alone to decide; the self-set snares will snap with a bullwhip crack and there will be no escape for those who hate G0D.

      • VTX
      • And so I can pray no longer for the one who blasphemes G0D by thanking Him for babykillers. He is now beyond prayer, given over to himself and will be dealt with. Those who selected him – he was selected, not elected – will be driven down into a pit, a living pit, and receive what is cast upon them.

        Likewise, the murders of our SEALS and Ambassador Stevens: falling on the heads of those who carried them out, offal and spleen from birds of carrion, into the open mouths of those evidoers who will cry out with no one to hear them. Oholah and Oholibah will laugh at their misery.

    • VTX
    • And now, the First Liar of Benghazi, the one who lunched with pals instead of doing her duty and listening to our closest ally in the Middle East at the UN – will be named Intel Director. She has greasy hair that looks like it would break an iron, bad skin – well, we once had a greasy bald guy as Secretary of the Mispoken, James Watt, who thought the Beach Boys were gay vollyball players. She,s only slightly more unattractive, but far less competent. She can dream that she’s Tamara Tunie, but resembles the part in Devil’s Advocate where Tunie’s character grows fangs.

      I’m guessing she’ll have to find time in between manicures and pedicures and lie-training (Bill Clinton is said to be “helping”) and having lunches with BFFs (which doesn’t mean what you think it means, since she has no friends) Then again, they kept Clapper in a room, occupied with whatever suited his interests at the moment, told him to shut up and stay the hell out of the way – while the Muslim Brotherhood dover the details coming in. Clapper is not incompetent; he just played one.

      The FBI now claims the Koran is “the revealed work of god?”
      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3027391/posts

      Looks like Susan Rice has company at the bottom. John Milton will be proud. And the FBI is now in his service.

    • VTX
    • And now, the First Liar of Benghazi, the unbelievable Talking Head with Flat Greasy Hair, the one who lunched with pals instead of doing her duty and listening to our closest ally in the Middle East at the UN – will be named Intel Director. She has hair that looks like it would break an iron, bad skin – well, we once had a greasy bald guy as Secretary of the Mispoken, James Watt, who thought the Beach Boys were gay vollyball players. She,s only slightly more unattractive, but far less competent. She can dream that she’s Tamara Tunie, but resembles the part in Devil’s Advocate where Tunie’s character grows fangs.

      I’m guessing she’ll have to find time in between manicures and pedicures and lie-training (Bill Clinton is said to be “helping”) and having lunches with BFFs (which doesn’t mean what you think it means, since she has no friends) Then again, they kept Clapper in a room, occupied with whatever suited his interests at the moment, told him to shut up and stay the hell out of the way – while the Muslim Brotherhood dover the details coming in. Clapper is not incompetent; he just played one.

      The FBI now claims the Koran is “the revealed work of god?”
      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3027391/posts

      Looks like Susan Rice has company at the bottom. John Milton will be proud. And the FBI is now in his service, too.

    • VTX
    • And now, the First Liar of Benghazi, the unbelievable Talking Head with Flat Greasy Hair, the one who lunched with pals instead of doing her duty and listening to our closest ally in the Middle East at the UN – will be named Intel Director. She has hair that looks like it would break an iron, bad skin – well, we once had a greasy bald guy as Secretary of the Mispoken, James Watt, who thought the Beach Boys were gay vollyball players. She,s only slightly more unattractive, but far less competent. She can dream that she’s Tamara Tunie, but resembles the part in Devil’s Advocate where Tunie’s character grows fangs.

      I’m guessing she’ll have to find time in between manicures and pedicures and lie-training (Bill Clinton is said to be “helping”) and having lunches with BFFs (which doesn’t mean what you think it means, since she has no friends) Then again, they kept Clapper in a room, occupied with whatever suited his interests at the moment, told him to shut up and stay the hell out of the way – while the Muslim Brotherhood dover the details coming in. Clapper is not incompetent; he just played one.

      The FBI now claims the Koran is “the revealed work of god?”
      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3027391/posts

      Looks like Susan Rice has company at the bottom. John Milton will be proud. And the FBI is now in his service.

    • VTX
    • Lame Cherry is right/wrong; UBL’s frozen corpse wasn’t even brought out. The picture LC shows of the dead/alive versions are identical (except where they’ve been photoshopped.) Beard, light streaks – identical. What is most telling is the nose and crease beside the nose – the lightsource is likewise identical.

      Perhaps the SEALS were murdered because they knew. Perhaps Stevens was murdered because he knew. (Perhaps I will be murdered because, now, I know too?)

      But there are other fish in the sea – like Susan Rice.
      And now, as she’s the First Liar of Benghazi, the unbelievable Talking Head with Flat Greasy Hair, the one who lunched with pals instead of doing her duty and listening to our closest ally in the Middle East at the UN – will be named Intel Director. She has hair that looks like it would break an iron, bad skin – well, we once had a greasy bald guy as Secretary of the Mispoken, James Watt, who thought the Beach Boys were gay vollyball players. She,s only slightly more unattractive, but far less competent. She can dream that she’s Tamara Tunie, but resembles the part in Devil’s Advocate where Tunie’s character grows fangs.

      I’m guessing she’ll have to find time in between manicures and pedicures and lie-training (Bill Clinton is said to be “helping”) and having lunches with BFFs (which doesn’t mean what you think it means, since she has no friends) Then again, they kept Clapper in a room, occupied with whatever suited his interests at the moment, told him to shut up and stay the hell out of the way – while the Muslim Brotherhood dover the details coming in. Clapper is not incompetent; he just played one.

      The FBI now claims the Koran is “the revealed work of god?”
      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3027391/posts

      Looks like Susan Rice has company at the bottom. John Milton will be proud. And the FBI is now in his service. And UBL, long dead – he’s served his purpose.

    • VTX
    • Sorry about the reposts: gateway timeout suggested that they weren’t received. Did the edits in-between sends.

      Must be over target. Heavy flak.

    • NameBM
    • I have been doing some thinking following my comment of yesterday on a previous post.

      Fact: Benghazi was never claimed by any Iman/Faction/Group. No youtube video launched from a cave or decrepit room claiming victory over the Big Satan….

      Pretty unusual from a bunch ready to appropriate itself of any pain inflicted on the West.

      WHY???

      Fact: The Benghazi mission was asking for security reinforcements for months. The Benghazi CIA post had participated in the kidnapping of 10 Iranian “Red Crescent Workers) late july.

      Could it be that the “civilian” arm of the US presence in Benghazi was feeling threaten by the actions of the “CIA” arm. (I put them in quote because the difference was probably minimal, but existing by the agency they took their orders from: DOS vs. CIA)

      So the CIA part kidnap 10 guys and 10 days later the Ambasador,( the ultimate go-betwen, a guy from the CIA named Ambassador therefore reporting to the Hillary) goes on site from Tripoly to Benghazi. Could it be to calm things down between the two US locations? And/Or to inform the “right” parties that the 10 Iranians had already been transferred out of Benghazi and that looking for them there was fruitless?

      If we consider the theory that the attack was to kidnap him, a lot of things now make sense.

      A) the length of the attack and the change of theater during the attack.
      The attackers did not go “for the kill” and they follow the target to a second location. The timing of the attack on 9/11 might have been coincidential, but rather timed by the presence of Stevens in Benghazi that day. And the length of the attack might indicate down time for negociations ordered by the relevant parties in DC and Teheran(?)

      B)The step down orders. If the attack had been immediately identified as a kidnapping in progress, (by chats on the Internet or other intelligence sources) the step down orders meant that already negociating for his release had been the chosen option. Meaning, Hillary was already on the phone trying to reach the attackers and make a deal with them leveraging the 10 guys they had in custody.

      C) The real point of negociation as far as Obama was concerned, was their silence over the gun-running. And the negociations and the deal reached carried on during the attack and after the murder of Stevens.

      At no point the attackers having now killed Stevens claimed victory on the International stage. Sometimes during the attack the negociations shifted. It was made clear to the attackers that if they wanted to ever see the Iranians again, they better shup up on who they were and what they were doing.

      THAT even more than the step down orders was the death sentence of Stevens. The attackers had now a much more important leverage point than an Ambassador in their hands. Their silence over the gun-running.

      And this is why they would kill him after securing his custody. To make a point and to get rid of somebody now irrelevant.

      The deal held. The Iranians were released a month later.

      • Kay112
      • It would make perfect sense that it was a kidnapping set up for them to capture Stevens. The two Ex-Navy SEALs were NOT suppose to be there! Perhaps that is why plan B was called upon and hence resulting Stevens death. Perhaps this explains why Obama was ‘No-Show-BO-on-Benghazi’ (I made this name up and I like it! :D ) in the Situation Room. Could he have known all along this was to be a kidnapping in exchange for exactly what the article is claiming? Specific ‘detainees’ to be returned to Al Qaeda from the US?

      • truthandjustice
      • Thanks- somehow I wasn’t aware of the kidnapping of the 10 Iranians — that is definitely one of the main “factors” in this convoluted mess. I stick with my “all of the above” theory which includes all of the theories re kidnapping, payback from our “other” enemies, gunrunning, push for global laws to protect, promote Islam, Obama’s reelection, all fitting into their objective of their NWO agenda….all trying to be accomplished with this “event”. They all sort of interlock.
        It gets very complicated and catastrophes happen b/c you have all these different evil factions fighting against each other and betraying & blackmailing each other BIG TIME. Things don’t go according to plan, then they switch, adjust, but never giving up….always coming up with something. Demons fighting amongst demons, all trying to accomplish some horrible, evil globalist plan to rule. No RINO can handle – imperative we get the courageous, ethical, patriotic people in leadership asap, starting in 2014.

    • Kay112
    • Folks. Drudge has the link up to this same subject matter!

      Wow! This issue is proof we deserve the right to know what exactly happened in Benghazi – all details!

    • Kay112
    • I’ve researched the web to find that article on Stevens Pennsylvania, US autopsy and can not find it. ((*sniffles* because my integrity has taken a turn for the worse*) Hmmm… Was the article I read scrubbed from the net or what? I don’t know, but I would stake my life on the fact I read that article!! I am that sure of the fact I read that article. I can even picture the coroner in my memory recall. The author of the article didn’t have any confidence in the PA coroner because the author claimed the coroner was an Obama political crony.

      Upon researching the net on the autopsy, I found an article for all of you to refresh your memories…

      “Stevens was the personal representative of the President of the United States. The rupture of that personal relationship is the great shame of Benghazi
      An Internet Autopsy: How did Ambassador Stevens Die?
      Author
      By Robert Klein Engler (Bio and Archives) Saturday, March 23, 2013″

      http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/53998

      • Kay112
      • AtB, thank you for that link.

        Please note I am not disputing your assessment of Stevens cremation in Libya. Also, I am not disputing UM either. If I have come across as accusing both of you as lying or misleading, my humble and sincere apology to you both.

        PS.. I read Stevens was cremated in Libya along with the other three Americans back in September of 2012. However, I am sure I read his corpse went through an autopsy ‘in Pennsylvania’ by a coroner who is/was a big Obama political supporter. (In no way am I trying to justify and take away from my apology to you both. Again, I am sorry should I have offended either of you.

    • AmericaTheBeautiful
    • Kay112, back to Ulsterman on January 17, 2013

      http://theulstermanreport.com/2013/01/17/129-days-after-benghazi-massacre-fbi-chief-visits-libya-to-investigate/

      Ulsterman’s January 17, 2013 article.

      Btw…Samantha Powers, Cass Sunstein’s newest wife…Really?! For UN Ambassador…Provocative Prezzy still at it…Powers, the last rotten import from Ireland since fat Teddy…here since high school makes her an even odder choice…

      …And Susan Rice with her craven political machinations to subvert an election…she is either too stupid or lied to the American people about Benghazi…in which case either should prohibit her from serving in public office again… the height of irony to be appointed to the lead the NSA..Further, .the people want an explanation of why Rice has 30 million dollars in her bank account as a public servant! Perhaps , she takes Hillary’s cattle trading advice.

      • Kay112
      • AtB, thank you for that link. I missed that article on UM Reports. However, I read something interesting tucked in UM’s article~~

        “UPDATE – A reader asked for links verifying that Chris Stevens’ body was in fact cremated. In the days following his death there were several reports indicating plans for cremation. Interestingly, as I went back to find those stories, it appears they have been scrubbed. I did find this report from Patty Garza:

        According to Fox News reports this morning, the family says his body will be cremated and sent back to the US. I hope they get a US autopsy before they cremate him, because I don’t trust the medical reports/examiner in Libya who said he only died of suffocation from smoke inhalation. LINK”

        UM knows there has been “scrubbing occurring” pertaining to Benghazi-gate and that is EXACTLY my thinking too! It explains why I can’t find that article which supposedly claimed Stevens corpse went through an autopsy in PA.

        • truthandjustice
        • Don’t doubt you read that — and no doubt some have been scrubbed. Contradictory by design. Probably made confusing with different accounts to serve “their” purposes and keep people confused, give up and then “go away” with time. I’ve read both accounts where they were cremated there and here. I did find a couple that mentioned the autopsy being done in DE – but not PA and then being shipped to the funeral home for cremation. Here’s one:

          “Stevens’ body was flown from Benghazi to Tripoli, Libya’s capital the morning of Wednesday, Sept. 12 and President Obama was informed of the Ambassador’s death. That night, a C-17 military aircraft carrying Stevens’ body and three other American victims arrived in Ramstein, Germany. On Friday, Sept. 14, the victims’ bodies arrived in the U.S. at Andrews Air Force base for a ceremony. Stevens’ body was then taken to an FBI facility in Dover, Del., for an autopsy which revealed he died of asphyxia, presumably from smoke inhalation. Officials found no internal damage, no indication of assault and no mistreatment of his body. Stevens was then transported to a funeral home on Saturday, Sept. 15 and cremated, at his family’s request.”

          http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57586952/officials-instructed-benghazi-hospital-to-list-stevens-as-john-doe/

          Note the contradiction from the info at this site you posted — “According to Fox News reports this morning, the family says his body will be cremated and sent back to the US.”
          So one says his family requested (& got) his body after autopsy here and had it cremated here. Other one says it was cremated there and then sent here.

          Seems the cbs story (autopsy, cremation here) would be more likely the big lie – with no “negatives” re what the wonderful Muslims did b/c they are all mostly nice and peaceful you know & fit the narrative/mindset “they” want us to have re Islam – which also fits their objective with pushing the fake video — sympathy for the poor Muslims and hatred for Christians. They were still pushing the video as the cause during that time. Plus makes sense the coroner here was an Obama supporter, co-conspirator or whatevedr – saying whatever he was told, as usual. That fits in quite nicely from what we know of how “they” operate. Demons all………

          • Kay112
          • Thank you, T&J for this post which is also confirming another story on the autopsy of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens. It really makes my point. We really don’t know what exactly happened. That is why I am wondering if the Al Qaeda weapons specialist may be telling truth. I am not dismissing anything. All is on the table in Benghazi-gate, in my opinion.

            What difference does all of this make? A helluv a lot of difference. Four Americans died and I won’t rest without all the answers to who, what, when, where, how, etc… so that this type of situation will never happen again to other Americans.

            The above is what Obama should be saying…! He is not a leader!

    • ebysan
    • @ UM

      You have a collage of photos about Benghazi & Ambassador Chris Stevens at the top of this article.

      I had only seen the bottom Left photo in Sept.,2012 from a UK article (a man with cell phone in his mouth dragging Ambassador Stevens).

      If Ambassador Chris Stevens was already dead (as stated by our government ) in the gruesome Right photo,

      his hand should have been flaccid “not” elevated by his side…This poor man was brutally tortured & Obama is wiping his hands of this!!

      It looks like he is strapped down to something & they are using what looks like a cattle prod on him.

      This is Outrageous!!!

      If he was dead his hand should have been hanging down ‘Not’ lifted up!! This poor man must have been alive at the time this photo was taken!!

      • Publius
      • I had not seen the lower right photo before either. If it is Stevens, his mouth appears to be open in what I can only imagine is an agonizing scream. Sickening. Disgusting. Savagery.

        Photo of one of torturers should make him easily identifiable. So why have there been no arrests? No drone strikes?

        Maybe someone could place that photo in an ad/open letter to Hillary and Barry, with the title: “What difference does it make?”

        • AmericaTheBeautiful
        • Ebysan and Publius, the photo on the lower right is Quaddaffi being raped to death (“lethal injection”) by a cattle prod by Al Quaeda rebels….. that the USA supported in turning Libya over to the Muslim Brotherhood (friend to Iran)….

          Ambassador Stevens in the image on the lower left is in the hands of Ansar Al Sharia, an Al Qaeda offshoot.
          Pay attention to the oval ring on the American Ambassadors stomach…the shape matches exactly the bidet rim from his safe room where the only item wiped clear of soot was his bidet. This was payback for the lethal injection of Quaddaffi…or, it is to appear to be payback.

          As to where Steven’s autopsy took place… it was initially reported to have happened in Libya as was the cremation reported to have taken place in Libya..It was sunsequently reported to have taken place in the USA…The truth is always morphing in this regime depending on who questions what.

    • AmericaTheBeautiful
    • I suppose the term “lethal injection” could be applied to what happened to Quaddaffi as well..
      …..if the cattle prod used in his rape is considered a “lethal injection”…being raped to death…

      A kidnapping gone bad…where payback was extracted by Russia’s Al Qaeda rebels as pay back for the treatment of their ally…whom Hillary .and Samantha Powers and Susan Rice claimed their in smug “leading from behind” …”we came, we conquered”… Morons leading our foreign policy and declaring wars while having no understanding of the depths of their actions…leads to exactly where it did..the torture and rape (lethal injection) of an American Diplomat…but “what difference does it make now” over and done, his life..she has more elections to win…soulless animal….

    • AmericaTheBeautiful
    • Keep in mind… The only call Obama took at 10PM the night of Ambassador Stevens murder was from Hillary…It
      Appears they collaborated on their excuse and blamed the video the next morning in the Rose Garden…desseminating the story of “that awful anti-Muslim video”… Suggesting the kidnapping was preplanned and the video planned and made for just such an excuse…That excuse proves the preplanned collaboration between Obama and Hillary …Was that to hide the selling of arms to Al Qaeda? Or as a campaign moment for the president as he negotiates the Ambassadors release for the Blind Sheik?

      If Haggmann is to be believed… and he traced that video to our intelligence departments… Then at best the kidnapping was preplanned by someone in our government…or …Stevens murder was preplanned…

    • VTX
    • ATB,
      You know my view: Stevens was murdered; the “movie” was a made-for-such-an-excuse, whatever that would be, and the administration had already set it’s jaws on the lie. Too many people had gotten the notice that this would be the official story.

      I don’t think this is all Hillary, not in the least, but it looks like Susan Rice is being lifted once again (“Ye bubbles raised by breths of kings”) to a new position as a poke in the eye to Hillary.

      It’s likely she managed a big part of the affair. This has the MO of her husband’s administration. Others had to be involved – as much as Obama was uninvolved (he had better things to do than to manage an Ambassadorial emergency) and Hillary’s “3 am” campaign either intentionally or unintentionally came back to bite her.

      Rice was humiliated by the job she was told to do. Her elevation – considering her incompetence in most things – is the administration’s way of saying: “it wasn’t Rice – it was Hillary.” The wheels of the bus are slowly moving. Moving forward-stopping-moving in reverse-stopping-moving forward….

    • VTX
    • Rice’s elevation and the choice of Samantha Power to Rice’s former position shows three things: they’re pulling players from the farm team because they’re loyal and loyally stupid, and because they have no one else to go to.

      Thirdly, the belief that Rice’s elevation was a poke at Hillary is bolstered by Power’s campaign attacks on Hillary. This is a clear signal that Obama will NOT give Hillary a boost, no matter what he promised Bill. (Bill’s heart condition is about to take a turn anyway, and Barry knows it…in a Breitbartian sort of way.)

      The worm has turned so many times in this administration, it could run a marathon. You’d think this was Fleetwood Mac, except Hillary’s arse is wider than Stevie’s.

    • VTX
    • “Lethal injection,” Chris Stevens ass! They tortured him so bad, they couldn’t trade him. If he was given a lethal injection, it was because he was almost dead already.

      The hostage takers know that they’re not viewed very kindly: Americans have low opinions of sex offenders and serial rapists. The thought of Stevens being raped and pummelled to death is sickening – and they want to keep the attention on the administration.

      So they’ve offered a gentler, kinder death – so that we’ll keep looking at the dopes running the show from the Whitehouse. Surely, we should. But it shows also the kind of people this adminstration is willing to make deals with – buggering pigs with bulging eyes. (For Obama, that means “trade.”) They see that this story is NOT GOING AWAY as they were promised.

      Don’t believe the lethal injection story. But also don’t believe the Obama narrative. Neither one is credible.

      • AmericaTheBeautiful
      • VTX…Conider “Lethal Injection” is strictly semantics by sadists…and smoky means –Something stuck into Stevens that killed him..As Quaddaffi was murdered by the cattle prod they sodomised him with….Stevens doctor reported his stomach bled out…Which would happen had he been raped to death…

        UM posted those two images because they are parallels…Parallels because of them both being sodomized to death? Parallels because as LC stated Stevens was payback by Russia for what the USA allowed to happen to their ally…allowed to humiliated their ally Gaddaffi.

    • AmericaTheBeautiful
    • We still ask:

      Where was Obama during all those missing hours?

      Who ordered the video made? Did he actually only make one other video?….and that one was related to Waco, made before the Waco murders of the gun buying and swapping Branch Dividians?

      Who made the “stand down order” Not to save the Americans at the CIA annex in Benghazi?

      Who ordered weapons being given out of the CIA annex to Al Qaudea?

      Who refused to sign the CBA (crowd border authority) document that was necessary to send help into a foreign country? ( only a president can) Could the president be reached for a signature were he willing?

      Who set that odd time for Obama to speak to Netanyahu ? (4AM) When was that call scheduled? How many other calls have there been to (the Obama hated) Netanyahu? What was so important that they speak at 4AM for Netanyahu? (So Obama to plan this murderous debacle and use the man he finds most repugnant for cover)

      Who ordered those CIA assets to Bengazi? How long before the attack? Who chose those CIA assets that were placed there?

      Why was Stevens in Benghazi? Who ordered him there? When exactly was he asked to be in Benghazi on 9/11?

      Was Eric Holder involved in Benghazi? Did he order the survivors hidden and their names protected?

      Who ordered the survivors hidden? Why is Obama defying an equal branch of government and not producing witnesses? Have the survivors or their families been threatened threatened?

      Were Stinger Missiles , as Russia has accused, been transferred to Al Qaeda in Benghazi against our NATO treaty?

      Were 5 dirty bombs as has been reported in the alternative media transferred to Al Qaeda in Benghazi?

      If those weapons were transferred to Syria…Who does that benefit? The Muslim Brotherhood? Iran?

      The Middle East power has been handed to The Muslim Brotherhood……Isn’t that simply a proxy for IRAN? Why empower the long time enemy of the USA, Iran?

      Who else knew Obama was arming AlQaeda, an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood, with Manpads and missiles?

      Did any in Congress know of Obama’s arms transfers? Were they complicit?

      Why did the Turkish Counsel need to meet with Ambassador Stevens that night? ( After the shipment of arms had already left en route to Turkey and eventually Syria?)

      Was the take-down of Quaddaffi always to include the use of his weapons stash to take down Syria in another Muslim Brotherhood advancement for more power?

      Was John Brennan managing the arming of AlQaeda out of Benghazi as the Seals document release have stated? Why did John Brennan take his oath of office not on a Bible but rather on an early copy of the Constitution…that did not include the Bill of Rights?

      How much of the push and pull we see between Obama and Congress is Kabuki?

      The MSM should be prosecuted for failure to report truth…..

      Obama Would Be Toast If Americans Actually Paid Attention To Benghazi
      Too many of our citizens are totally wrapped up in their lives and are comfortable in their ignorance of reality. They are a different breed of American, worlds apart from the ones who built this nation more than two centuries ago. They are frivolous, celebrity obsessed and there is no other word for this – clueless.

      By Alicia Colon
      When it comes to scandals, the IRS targeting conservatives seems to resonate with the public because no one likes the IRS. The Justice Department snooping on the Associated Press and a Fox News reporter outrages the media so they’re finally criticizing the administration. Both of these scandals, however, leave wiggle room for the president to deny involvement but there is no way for him to escape responsibility for Benghazi. Fortunately for him, Americans don’t seem to care that two Americans fought for their lives waiting hours for assistance that was never ordered by the Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama. Shame on Us!

      The reporting on Benghazi has been so convoluted and practically non existent on the major networks – save Fox News – that even this news junkie ignored the significance of the Benghazi timeline. American Thinker editor Thomas Lifson published a detailed timeline in spreadsheet form that listed the events but I neglected to read it carefully. I had long been under the impression that all the deaths of our Americans occurred at the same time as Ambassador Stevens. The timeline showed this horrifying fact – that Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods were killed on the annex rooftop at 4am Benghazi time hours after the Ambassador and his aide were murdered. In fact, the former Seals Doherty and Woods were not even in Benghazi but were stationed in Tripoli when they learned that Benghazi was under attack and rushed to aid others. They arrived in Benghazi at 1:30am on 9/12. They died fighting the jihadists hours later.

      According to the timeline, Obama, Biden and Panetta met at White House at 11:30pm Benghazi time on 9/11 in plenty of time to send support to the consulate, support that was nearby and available. What opened my eyes to these overlooked facts was a video by Charles Krauthammer who was answering the question of which Obama scandal he felt was the worst. He answered that the biggest scandal that President Obama has to face is the question of what he was doing at the time the attack on the Benghazi consulate in Libya was occurring. For eight hours while four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, were dying, Obama apparently did nothing except make one call to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Krauthammer told Bill O’Reilly.

      I know that Congress, specifically House Republicans, have been asking for documents on Benghazi but lately all inquiries seem to focus on the IRS and AG Holder. The idea that dead Americans have been pushed to the rear is unacceptable and I contacted my congressman, Michael Grimm, and vented asking him did anybody in Congress care about Benghazi? I wrote:
      “Don’t you? As a military veteran aren’t you appalled that two men died on roof waiting for help that was close by but never came?”
      He immediately answered me back via his phone.
      “Of course I care. This is a black eye on our country for eternity. As a Marine I believe we never leave anyone behind! I have been outspoken and vocal on how this tragedy was swept under the rug and how the Administration lied to the American people – but to say that no one in Congress cares is as absurd as the Sec of State’s comments after the incident. The House Oversight Committee held numerous hearings and so did the Senate. Many Republican Members have been on TV blasting the Administration for failing to provide security, failing to respond to the attack and for the cover-up. The media is trying to kill the story and to some extent the general public doesn’t seem to care very much. It is a sad day in America when the press is in the pocket of anyone and the citizens don’t much seem to care. Only so much an individual Member of Congress can do without the people or the press or both behind them!

      “I am personally disgusted by the way this horrific act of terrorism went on for so many hours without any response from our military but I am even more infuriated by the response from the Administration to hide the facts and deny the truth to the American people. My heart and prayers are with the families of the 4 Americans who lost their lives senselessly who must have felt abandoned by their country. This was simply unforgivable. MgG”
      He is absolutely correct and I urge others to contact their representatives and demand answers. The shame is also on the citizens who don’t seem to care. We can excuse the low information voters for not caring by blaming the mainstream media for not covering news unfavorable to Obama but that would be too generous.
      Too many of our citizens are totally wrapped up in their lives and are comfortable in their ignorance of reality. They are a different breed of American, worlds apart from the ones who built this nation more than two centuries ago. They are frivolous, celebrity obsessed and there is no other word for this – clueless. Global news is unimportant to their lives until it hits them while they are in a bus or restaurant that blows up after someone shouts ‘Allahu Akbar!’
      They are a product of an education system that has indoctrinated them into acceptance of socialism and governmental dependence. Government is God with the answer to all their problems. They have never read Animal Farm, 1984 and their ignorance of why we revolted against England is palpable. They know nothing about propaganda or its mastermind Goebbels but they accept the politicians’ lies repeated over and over as truth.
      I really shouldn’t stereotype all Americans this way because the previous description only fits those who don’t seem to care whom they vote into office as long as they are promised goodies from the government.

      Certainly that’s the type of voter I see in my hometown of New York City who’s getting ready to accept a disgraced congressman who posted his genitals online and is now a mayoral candidate; who reelected a congressman censured for tax evasion. In Massachusetts they elected a woman with dubious Native American ancestry who practiced law without a license as their senator. In California, these voters don’t know the meaning of the words, ‘conflict of interest’ and reelected Sen. Dianne Feinstein whose broker husband will now benefit from the sale of government property. They vote for a Democratic legislature that will now tax them over 146% thanks to Obamacare but they can afford that, can’t they? Those that can’t should relocate to a Red State like Texas or North Dakota.
      It is in the red states with Republican leadership that the pioneer spirit still exists and respect for the military is ever-present. Americans there are appalled at the treatment our brave men and women are receiving from this administration. The massive drawdown of American troops in Afghanistan and the dismantling of U.S. military facilities means no hot meals for marines stationed in that hot spot. Meanwhile the White House hosts celebs at grandiose parties on the taxpayer’s dime. The red staters know about Benghazi and what happened to those brave men who died waiting for help from a president too busy to help and who remained too unperturbed by their deaths to cancel his fundraising trip to Vegas the next day. These voters also would never vote for a president who shirked his duty as Commander-in-Chief.

      If all Americans had been paying attention to Benghazi last September, President Barack Obama would be a one termer and he and Eric Holder would be toast.

      • NameBM
      • to clear a confusion. Muslim Brotherhood is not line up with Iran. They are an “independant” group, taking over Arab nations one after the other.

        I compare them with the National Socialists of the Germanic Countries. First insignificant on the political arena, then supported by Big Money as they grew (a case of keep your friends close and your enemies closer), then toppling the governement and regulating the very big money the fed from before.

        It is clearly a case of servant taking over the master.

        The Saudis are now “making nice” with the Muslim Brotherhood, eventhough a clear goal of the latter is to topple the Royal Family.

        Iran’s Imans detest the Brotherhood which they see as a clear threat to their power.

        Also a very important aspect of this whole Benghazi horror is the money.

        It takes money and a whole lot of it to run guns on such a scale.

        As any good cop wil tell you it is always Cherchez la femme and Follow the money!

    • AmericaTheBeautiful
    • VTX…Conider “Lethal Injection” is strictly semantics by sadists…and simply means –Something stuck into Stevens that killed him..As Quaddaffi was murdered by the cattle prod they sodomised him with….Stevens autopsy report stated his stomach bled out…Which would happen had he been raped to death…

      UM posted those two images because they are parallels…Parallels because of them both being sodomized to death? Parallels because as LC stated Stevens was payback by Russia for what the USA allowed to happen to their ally…allowed to humiliated their ally Gaddaffi.

      This info was leaked because they want America to know..they have been humiliated by Stevens murder and the manner of his murder?.

      • ebysan
      • @ AmericaTheBeautiful

        Thank you!!…. I did not realize the photo on the right was actually Gaddaffi The title on the top of Photo said Ambassador Stevens being Tortured….I did not realize that the man being tortured was heavier than Ambassador Chris Stevens….. I was outraged by the gruesome photo & this person being attacked by what looked like a cattle prod.

        You make such knowledgable posts & I appreciate you sharing this information with us….. We are at a loss for correct comprehensive information from the news media these days.

        I thank Ulsterman for giving us this platform….. The Obama Administration is so corrupt & always lying to us. We need to find the Truth behind all of these recent Scandals .

    • VTX
    • ATB,
      Great post! (questions, Alicia Colon’s column) I was thinking the same thing – that Stevens was brutally violated, but I figured the torturers killed him as a final act of mercy when he was used up. Who knows what he revealed?

      For those who wince at waterboarding…this is how real torture is conducted. They weren’t doing it for their personal amusement – and it’s likely that both Stevens and Ghaddafi were tortured for information. (Remember, we’d been working with Ghaddafi after he dropped his WMD program.) The reason they want to soft pedal the death-method is so that Senators don’t start beating war drums.

      Unlike the Lara Logan rape in the streets of Egypt, which was meant to humiliate, Stevens was more likely brutalized to get information from him. Not just Russian payback. Who knows what he told them? No one should want to undergo that to see how far they can go without breaking.

      This administration wanted him dead – for whatever reason – but like the drones the Iranians shot down, they were unwilling to take the measures to protect vital information. The rescue mission should have begun at an early hour, with all assets available at hand. I wasn’t there, but there is a pattern of carelessness and pussilanimity with this administration

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